9th Circuit looks poised to let NSA lawsuits go forward

By | August 15, 2007, 10:00pm PDT

The Ninth Circuit panel that heard arguments in a pair of lawsuits demanding more information about the NSA’s domestic wiretap operations appears unwilling to put a stop to the suits, as the Justice Department and AT&T requested, News.com reports.

The government argued that the suits must be dismissed because the judicial process would inevitably reveal state secrets. It “could compromise the sources, methods and operational details of our intelligence gathering capabilities,” Solicitor General Garre said.

The appeals court seemed unimpressed.

Judge Harry Pregerson wondered: “We just have to take the word of members of the executive branch that it’s a state secret. That’s what you’re saying, isn’t it?”

A moment later Judge Michael Hawkins suggested that granting the request could “mean abdication” of our duties.

In Hepting v. AT&T, the Electronic Frontier Foundation claimed AT&T had unlawfully opened its networks to the NSA. In the other case, Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation v. Bush the Treasury Department accidentally turned over a classifed document to an attorney for the foundation.

The top-secret document showed, according to the group, “Al-Haramain and its attorneys had been subjected to warrantless surveillance in violation of” federal law. They responded by filing another lawsuit in February 2006 alleging violations of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

The Justice Department said not only must the Al-Haramain case be thrown out but also the foundation’s attorneys may not even be allowed to refer to it, because their “mental recollections of the documents are also out of the case,” according to the government lawyer in that case.

“I’m feeling like Alice in Wonderland,” replied Judge M. Margaret McKeown.

Indeed, the court made no secret of its dismay with the government’s legal reasoning.

“The bottom line here is that once the executive declares that certain activity is a state secret, that’s the end of it?” Pregerson asked. “No cases, no litigation, absolute immunity? The king can do no wrong?”

AT&T is also moving to be dismissed from the lawsuit under the theory that it cannot defend itself without revealing state secrets.

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ralphrides 17th Aug 2007
and the Bill of Rights to specifically prevent the possibility of a President trying to become King. The executive branch is monitored by the congress and they are monitored by the supreme court. This is a three way safety on potential abuses of our (USA) federal government. No mater what the president wants, when is effects citizens there MUST be a due process of law. The only time such issues are partly overlooked and only on a temporary period is when congress grants the president war powers act. This was not done for 911 and should not be done unless global war is occurring. The so called global war on terrorism was carefully worded by this administration to deceive the uninformed. The activities in Afghanistan and Iraq are technically police actions and not declared war, no matter what the president misnamed it. In addition the way our forefathers built in control of a war minded president was to give only congress the money control for the armed forces. So say what you will about the democratic controlled house and senate, they are actually doing their job trying to control these out of control police actions by limiting spending on them.
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ninja@... 16th Aug 2007
someone started standing up to these criminals. Bravo to the 9th Circuit Judges for sticking to their guns.
and the Bill of Rights to specifically prevent the possibility of a President trying to become King. The executive branch is monitored by the congress and they are monitored by the supreme court. This is a three way safety on potential abuses of our (USA) federal government. No mater what the president wants, when is effects citizens there MUST be a due process of law. The only time such issues are partly overlooked and only on a temporary period is when congress grants the president war powers act. This was not done for 911 and should not be done unless global war is occurring. The so called global war on terrorism was carefully worded by this administration to deceive the uninformed. The activities in Afghanistan and Iraq are technically police actions and not declared war, no matter what the president misnamed it. In addition the way our forefathers built in control of a war minded president was to give only congress the money control for the armed forces. So say what you will about the democratic controlled house and senate, they are actually doing their job trying to control these out of control police actions by limiting spending on them.

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