Anonymity exposed, part deux: Google, ISPs ordered to expose academic dissidents
Summary: Canada's York University now has the identities of five or six faculty members who anonymously questioned the academic credentials of a new dean. A Canadian court ordered Google and two ISPs to turn over the information. Does ISP data retention undercut academic freedom?
Here we go again: A Canadian court has ordered Google and Canada's two largest ISPS to reveal the identity of anonymous emailers, The National Post reports.
This time it's not about who's the skankiest supermodel in NYC, but accusations that president of Canada's York University engaged in academic fraud. That's a more serious matter who's dryhumping who in a late-night club scene. After York president Mamdouh Shoukri announced the hiring of Martin Singer as the dean of the school's new Faculty of Liberal Arts and Professional Studies - calling him a "renowned scholar of Chinese history" and "such a strong scholar and administrator" - a message from a Gmail account went out from a group called York Faculty Concerned About the Future of York University.
The message accused Shoukri of "perpetrating an outrageous fraud" and added:
Lying about scholarly credentials is the gravest offence.
The universiity went to court, suing Google for the IP adresses associated with the Gmail account. Google turned over that information, identifying Bell Canada and Rogers Communications as the ISPs. Last month they sued the ISPs for the customer information, a motion the ISPs didn't oppose.
Justice George R. Strathy of Ontario Superior Court released his reasons for granting the orders, saying it was a reasonable balance between protecting freedom of speech and protection from libel.
David Noble, an outspoken professor at York, denounced the moves as "a fishing expedition."
"I think they are trying to create a chill among faculty. They are spending enormous sums, for what? I think they are just desperate to find out who is involved." [The other professors are] afraid of reprisals.
I was cautiouslly supportive of the judge's move in the supermodel case, since (a) there was some argument that there was actual damage, (b) the public interest in the speech was modest and (c) the court appeared to consider the free speech right versus the right to litigate. In this case, though, the public interest is quite substantial: the case involves not just the right to speak, but academic freedoom, fear of retaliation and the quality of a leading academic institution. The university has a much larger bully pulpit than the Concerned Faculty: they can issue press releases, do media interviews, release the CV of the professor. This is a debate properly held in the public square, not the courtroom. The university lawyer, Will McDowell, sais this: "The right of free speech is not unlimited. What was said is quite damaging to the institution." One wonders if he meant the right to speak anonymously is not unlmited. Because the statement on its face seems to say the professors in question had no right to speak in a way that might damage the institution, regardless of whether the criticism has merit.
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Freedom of anonimity
If people are going to make damaging remarks, make personal attacks on people and harm others and calim it as freedom of speech, then they should do so publicly. If you haven't got the courage to say something to someone's face, then don't say it at all.
BS Alert
To those foolish sheep (such as accidentalitmanager) who think likewise, I refer you to the following link:
http://www.magic-city-news.com/Editor_s_Desk_34/A_Climate_of_Fear_34683468.shtml
Those who fail to learn and apply the lessons from history deserve to have all they own, including their liberty, taken from them.
Sheep don't have fingers.
The person/people responsible for the message had violated the law and went beyond their freedom of speech rights. Tracking them down is why we have law enforcement officials otherwise we just have anarchy.
Huh
Freedom isn't free if you get punished for speaking out.
Even in the worst regimes in history, you could speak out against the rulers, you just had to understand you would be hung, drawn and quartered for it.
Today, as civilised societies, you just get sued until you have nothing left of your assets and then may be go to jail on top of it. If you do manage to win the lawsuits, you still manage to lose a lot of money, you just get to avoid jail time.
Anonymous speech is free speech. Unanonymous speech that doesn't carry punitive damages and punishment is also free speech.
But just try to speak out in disagreement with a school or hospital and see how fast you lose your job and end up on the wrong side of legal court.
Good article
Hey, accidentalitmanager...
putting your money where your mouth is and
expressing your opinions (which you have the
right to express) attached to your name.
What? You say you have valid privacy concerns
and fear of reprisal but you think it is good
for society that you should be able to express
your opinions? Well, so does whoever made the
posts you are commenting on.
Touche !
re: Hey, accidentalitmanager...
Besides, a "name" discloses nothing. But an e-mail address does.
re: Freedom of anonimity
Isn't it nice that everybody out there has an opinion?
Slippery Slope
Just another excuse to try and shut people up. If something fraudulent is going on you are to not report it !
If someone is putting up something anonymous they should expect a certain level of privacy. What if someone was on a public or library computer ? Or a work computer from a large corporation ? What a waste of time and resources.
media IS held accountable
TRY to get it right, unless it has to do with WMDs
What if...
library computer? Or a work computer from a large
corporation?
These days, there is a good chance the identity of
a poster in these settings would have been
captured on a surveillance camera.
Di dyou really think that through?
If that were true America would be in fewer wars and have a much more coherent political debate amongst its citizenry.
GIGO
RE: Anonymity exposed, part deux: Google, ISPs ordered to expose academic dissidents
Of course, they might just ignore that sort of email.
Ham Handed Over Reaction
I fail to see the harm to the university; but I do see that the president and dean of the university being the focus of a charge. The legal pursuit was to find out who made the charge and not show that the charge is false.
If the charge is true, then the courts have aided the wrong people and helped quash independant thinking and speech.
For the most part, I take a rumor via anonymous email as just that, a rumor. This is why I think that the reaction was ham handed.
Over reaction? Definately!
stand by what you say or shut up
remarks you should not make them. Freedom of
speech is a LONG way from freedom from reprisals.
If there will be reprisals, you can't speak freely
in this context, although I should note that
the court said the identities were only to be
used for litigation. In this case, anonymous
speech is the only way to speak freely.
Therefore anonymous speech should be protected
UNLESS the speech is unprotected (fighting
words or truly obscene) or weakly protected.
In this case, its so clearly political speech
of import to the community at large that the
release of the names is troubling.
And there's the red herrings
words or truly obscene) or weakly protected.[/i]
And who decides that? The speech police? The morally correct? The politically correct?
I'm certainly not ready to cede more freedom to a bunch of self-appointed twits.