French solution to illegal download and copyright infringement - tax Google and Yahoo

Summary: The French government commissioned a study to determine solutions to the problems of downloading copyright protected movies and music. The panel's recommendation is to tax search engine companies

The French government commissioned a study to determine solutions to the problems of downloading copyright protected movies and music. The panel's recommendation is to tax search engine companies, funding new portals that would make available legal ways for consumers to access copyright materials. In a Globe and Mail post, the government's Minister of Culture, Frederic Mitterrand;

The plan "seemed inevitable to us, if we want to maintain a certain pluralism in the culture world" and prevent the "endless enrichment of two or three world players who will impose their cultural formatting on us," Patrick Zelnik, a record producer who helped lead the mission, was quoted as telling Liberation newspaper.

This idea is similar to how blank VCR and music tapes were taxed in some countries to distribute to the music industry in the 1970's and 1980's. Google's response in the article was polite but clearly concerned;

Google appears cool to the idea, but sought a conciliatory tone. Google France's public affairs director said the company told the mission it wanted "co-operation between Internet players and the cultural fields to develop new models."

Olivier Esper said there were opportunities to promote innovative solutions "instead of continuing on a path that opposes the Internet and the cultural worlds, for example the path of taxation."

It's unknown what the RIAA or MPAA think of this approach. The complexity of creating the taxation method and how it is applied certainly would cause significant challenges and how tax revenues would be distributed. Such a program would likely face stiff resistance if a similar proposal was suggested in the United States and Canada.

Topics: Browser, Banking, Google, Government, Government US, Social Enterprise

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  • Re-tax

    French suggest another TAX, what a shock!
    Like Obama, never met a tax they did not like.
    BOSS4908
    • oBAMa??

      Man, you don't know how the French are taxed, do you? We pay almost nothign compater to them! But then, their gvt does give them some bang for their tax buck; as in health care. As long as the people have money, taxes can go up!
      twaynesdomain-22354355019875063839220739305988
      • there more that that

        school is free , health is free , they have a
        social safety net , they have laws to protect
        there workers ( ok they have gone to a extreme
        where company will no hired ) that a problem
        that should be fix with a nice law .

        Most american scream about taxes ... but like
        us in canada yes we pay a truck load of taxes
        but we have a truck load of services . Its a
        matter of mind set . Most american would not
        accept to live in canada or many country in
        europe ... I would not and will not ever live
        in USA no matter what. Its not that USA is
        not a nice country ... Its just not for me
        Quebec-french
        • Money must be falling from sky in Canada

          ... to finance all the services. Seriously you guys are only enjoying the welfare at the hard working people's expense who have to be taxed for you to sit there praising how great the system is. It's called socialism, and guaranteed to fail. It's actually already failing all over Europe right now as Iceland and Ireland already crashed while Greece, Portugal, Italy, UK and Spain are about to.
          LBiege
          • a bit off topic

            Socialism is collective property of production
            means.

            I don't think you drive on the dirt went goint to
            the mall, i think you drive on the roads your not
            leaving in socialism for that reason...
            s_souche
          • Say what?!

            There were roads many thousands of years before Karl Marx came along.
            gvtooker@...
          • My point

            the concept of common good is not a dogma of
            communism, therefore the national community being
            organized to offer general services on a non
            market basis does not necessarily reflect a
            socialist system.
            s_souche
          • No it fall out of taxes payer

            You fail to understand that I paid those taxes
            im working paying taxes .....

            and about failing ... how is California ....
            And of course there are no state in USA that
            face financial difficulty

            http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008
            /10/20/22_states_facing_budget_gaps/

            here a other list of failing states
            Wisconsin, Illinois, New Jersey, Florida,
            Nevada, Oregon, Michigan, Rhode Island, Arizona
            and California.

            http://www.sphere.com/article/10-states-face-
            financial-catastrophe/19261925


            That right only capitalist state will not fail
            ...what what what ....
            You should maybe stop accusing the other side
            and check in your own backyard .....

            Because one day soon USA state may start facing
            deep trouble .... and at that point maybe
            canada and european will those who will get out
            of this the fastest ....

            But still Its slavery and anarchy .... bring
            out your dead bring out your dead .... the
            sky is falling ....

            Lbeige at least have the intellectual honesty
            to see that you are sinking too .... and with
            capitalist mentality ... You are in for a ride.

            It was great back in the 50-60-70-80-90 when
            USA was the spear head of capitalism alone in
            its ball-park ....
            Now new neighborers arrived China , india ,
            who are cheaper , rather well educated , and
            will to do anything to gain market share.

            wake up Lbeige it was great back then it a
            other game now USA have lost nearly all ist
            friend in south and central america at the
            exception of columbia .....

            you should make a reality check and fast
            Quebec-french
          • You were trying to teach Einstein math

            I know very well USA is falling, and I've been telling for some time all the liberals on board that US is heading toward a decade of DepreFlation.

            The reason USA fails is b/c too many political correct liberal socialists have been ruining this nation that she finally cannot take any more and then roll over to sink under a century of progressive assault. In short, socialists have killed US. You Canadians better learn sth from it or you will get there soon.
            LBiege
          • nonsense USa a failing under Bush way before Obama

            California was in trouble in bush mid terms
            ....
            Its as nothing to do with liberal in power at
            this moment.

            Canada have begin it health coverage since 1946
            and by 1961 all canada was cover.

            so i doubt your little scary show .....

            Its been 64 years of moderated socialist
            policies in canada i doubt any change what so
            ever ......

            It has been working its working and will be
            working for a long time Until USA will invade
            us for our fresh water supply
            Quebec-french
          • Bush == fiscal socialist

            The reason Bush failed was b/c he spent 8 years being Lyndon Johnson -- the lunatic warmongering spending-spree liberal nutcase in 1960's. Bush's "Iraq and housing" nonsense was very much like Johnson's "Guns and Butter" madness. Johnson's socialism policies w/ those from Nixon and Carter caused a lost decade in 1970's. USA will have another lost decade in 2010's b/c of Bush's and now Obama's socialism, only much worse than 1970's.

            The reason California failed was b/c their local government was too big and taxing too much. They drove hardworking people away, which killed their tax revenue and caused more deficit problem. The myopic Cal-socialists then taxed more only to exacerbate the downward spiral now they are essentially bankrupt. As for your Canada, well, just give it a little more time and your socialist system will get you there too.
            LBiege
          • Canadian vs US national debts

            Last time I looked, Canada's national debt per capita was much lower than the US. The rate of growth in Canada was also negative for several years and appears likely to resume that trend in the next couple of years while the US's national debt seems to be the only growth industry in the whole country.

            I attended one conference where several attendees attacked a speaker for having the nerve to suggest the the US of A is likely to be defaulting on it's debts in the not too distant future. Oddly, they didn't attack his conclusion but rather his panic mongering for discussing the possibility. A 'if we all keep very quiet and don't talk about the monster in the corner, maybe he won't eat all of us" attitude.
            DNSB
          • "maybe he won't eat all of us"

            It's all Ponzi farce. Both Bush and Obama pretend they have the money to cover all the debts, deficits, welfare obligations, bailouts, healthcare and what not socialist programs. China, Japan and other foreign nations pretend their investment in US treasury is safe. You've got both the debtors and creditors keeping the music on to delay the day of recknoning that THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH CHAIRS LEFT.
            LBiege
          • 19% Unemployment in Spain !

            To quote the great MARGERET THATCHER....

            " The problem with Socialism is you run out of other peoples money to spend"

            Its funny the only countries that seem to work and have a Socialist system are places like Dennmark....

            And they have no Army !!!

            Meaning they are an illusion, without the US to protect their arses they would be invaded and destroyed..

            Hitler, Stalin and Islamic Fascism come to mind...
            electroman76
          • danemark no army ... what what hwat

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Defence
            Janes has a great revue for Danemark .


            Its a defense force not a aggression force .
            There over a million reservist in danemark ...
            Quebec-french
          • But it is Useless

            even as a "defence force". They haven't faced a serious threat in years. They would cave just like the Georgian Army if the Russians invaded.

            And why aren't they helping out in Iraq or Afghanistan? They are part of NATO. They should be contributing more than just 290 troops.
            mejohnsn
          • also read this

            http://forsvaret.dk/FKO/ENG/Pages/default.aspx
            Quebec-french
          • Try THis on for Size...

            Google "cows economics models". Then you will find such gems as:

            RUSSIAN COMMUNISM
            You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

            CAMBODIAN COMMUNISM
            You have two cows. The government takes both and shoots you.

            The list goes on...

            Anyway, deliberately hilarious and tongue-in-cheek though it is, it offers much better insight into the realities of the different forms of socio-economic systems than most of the "teabaggers" ranting about 'socialism'.
            mejohnsn
          • Every system same really

            The idea of 'socialism' is no more impossible
            than the idea of 'Democracy'. However there is
            no true example of democracy existing within
            the modern world states. Surely in a true
            democracy, every child would get to vote about
            what lesson they wished to learn today or every
            worker would get the vote on which order to
            proceed at a project. Democracy as envisaged by
            the progenitors of the idea DOES NOT exist.
            Current alleged democratic systems actually
            remove democratic freedom. We get to vote on
            who will make our decisions for us and INSTEAD
            of us!

            However expecting the tenets of any political
            system to solve all the problems that a society
            faces, is unreasonable. People change, wants
            and needs evolve and if a 'system' of society
            fails to sew the dynamism required to handle
            these changes into its founding ideas, then it
            will inevitably fail to achieve its original
            aims.

            This applies to socialism and democracies
            across the world. Saying one is better than the
            other is completely missing the point I feel.
            wez@...
        • It's not free though

          The thing is that these services are not free. You pay for them in the form of taxes. Let's face it. Government is slow, inefficient, and wasteful. I give them as little as possible because they will squander it. Then they cry that they don't have enough taxes and charge you more. Individuals are more adept at spending their own monies. Government does not know what is best for us - especially the one that is in power here now.

          My son goes to a private school and I am glad to pay for it. He knows the Pledge of Allegience and not subjected to the liberal's lies and recreation of history. He is not forced into believing that religon does not play a role in our lives and neither is he having to take courses in homosexuality.

          Most American's don't want government intervention and over-regulations. The government has no business in my health decisions. It is between my doctor and I. I will not pay into a corrupt system where decisions are based solely on economics.

          You are correct that high unemployment follows the high-regulatory environment. I have a lot of family in Italy and there has always been high unemployment there ever since I can remember. You can't force employers to hire people. The problem is your "nice little laws" to begin with ! Employers just decide to not hire anyone and you certainly can't fire anyone. Not exactly an environment where innovation takes place. I am over some union people and they do the bare minimum and no more. Why should they ?

          Everything there costs three times as much as here even things produced there. Three generations of families living in one home. I bought my own home at age 31 and everyone in my family has their own home.

          I would hate being under the centralized authority of the EU. Do you know that they regulate the shape of their fruits and vegetables ? If it does not conform it gets tossed ? No thank you !
          pizzaman7