Google calls for hike in H-1B visas
Summary: Technology issues are never a big deal in presidential elections, as much as some people think they should be. One that Big Tech is trying to push, though is the H-1B visa situation.
Technology issues are never a big deal in presidential elections, as much as some people think they should be. One that Big Tech is trying to push, though is the H-1B visa situation. Bill Gates has been lobbying hard on the issue and now Google has signaled it's a big concern for them as well.
On Google's Public Policy Blog, Keith Wolfe and Pablo Chavez write that 30 percent of the company's 300 H-1B applications were denied. That's gonna happen when you have 10 times as many applications as are allowed under the 65,000 cap.
We realize that many people have strong views on the topic of immigration. Some commenters to our recent post on H-1Bs criticized Google for not hiring more Americans. Although we're committed to hiring outstanding American candidates, Google hires employees based on skills and qualifications, not on nationality. Many times our strongest candidates are Americans; in fact, about nine out of ten of our U.S.-based employees are citizens or permanent residents. But if we're to remain an innovative company -- one that is creating jobs in the U.S. every day -- we also need to hire exceptional candidates who happen to have been born elsewhere. After all, if we were to hire only U.S.-born talent, we would effectively close ourselves off from most of the world's population, and tools like Google News and orkut (both of which were invented by former H-1B visa holders) may have never been developed.The limits are restricting technology from hiring the best candidates from around the world, Google said, and putting U.S. companies at a global disadvantage.
Simply put, restricting Google and other tech companies from employing the best and brightest minds is restrictive to our ability to grow and innovate. We continue to urge the U.S. government to raise the H-1B cap, to ensure that we and other American companies are able to attract, hire, and retain the world's top talent.Should the government respond to these appeals by raising the H-1B cap or by – finally -- investing properly in math/science/technology education? (Does anyone even know what it would take to get U.S. education delivering topnotch mathsci ed?) While Google's post also boasted about their investments in U.S. education, that's a hard problem compared to getting Congress to putting a "1" in front of that 65,000 number.
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They immigrate because their country sucks
They immigrate because...
it's not because it sucks
"patience and hard-worker"
not quite
There was a show on PBS a couple years ago interviewing business owners who were telling how much red-tape and hassle they had gone through to try to get electric power to a small clothing plant or similar business. Bureaucratic hassles just stifled people trying to get something started.
Many professionals and businness people just gave up and came to the US because of the relative ease at staring your own small business here.
very well
1.increase the application fee since they displace Americans that paid taxes and loans to get there.
2.No more tie ins for the visa holder to a certain company
3.The starting salary should be above the average for that proffesion(they are smarter than the average American, that is the whole point of bringing them here, isn't it!)
4.If there is more demand than the allocated number, the companies should bid an extra premium (just like ebay) and the winner should be the highest bidder.
That would be pretty fair to me!
Already been done
Already been done. The application fee for an H1 is close to $3500 per application.
>>> 2.No more tie ins for the visa holder to a certain company
H1s have been "portable" for years now.
>>> 3.The starting salary should be above the average for that proffesion(they are smarter than the average American, that is the whole point of bringing them here, isn't it!)
There will always be outliers, but salaries have to be higher than the prevailing wage, as decided by the DOL.
>>> 4.If there is more demand than the allocated number, the companies should bid an extra premium (just like ebay) and the winner should be the highest bidder.
Will the companies do that, or will they offshore the job ?
Companies asking for increases...
I guess the next question is, "do they?"
Well...
So Americans are smart, but lazy. Indians are semi-smart, but will work 12 hour days for 1/2 the price and benefits.
RE: Google calls for hike in H-1B visas
It's not the cost....
Windows people understand Windows. Most Open Source professional understand IT. If all you know is Windows, your prospects are thinning fast.
Dr3am 0n
It really is about the cost and making unfair privilege of overseas costs, while preventing the benefits for American consumers. (I mean, for a global economy, we can't even import drugs from Canada... drugs probably made in China anyway, like that recalled methotrexate...)
Google pays its H1b employees more than the prevailing wage
http://blogs.eweek.com/careers/content001/h1b_foreign_workers/does_google_pay_their_h1b_workers_better.html
Google games the system
supposed to be just over average; they're supposed to be
"best and brightest". The best engineers, according to
Google, can produce 300 times as much as the average. If
merit meant anything, the best should be paid 250-299
times as much as the average. Even if he misstated and
meant that the best can produce 3 times as much, then
they should be paid 2.5 to 2.9 times as much.
But the gifted account for less than 5% of H-1B recipients.
And the program was not intended to flood the job market
or replace the many bright, knowledgeable, creative US
citizen STEM workers, but merely to supply some extra
temporary workers with knowledge in some peculiar niche.
In that case, neither Google nor any other firm should be
applying for more than 5 H-1B visas.
Meanwhile, Google continues to set requirements/
qualifications for US citizen candidates several levels
above what is necessary for them to do the job for which
they're actually being hired.
RE: Google calls for hike in H-1B visas
Why are their now H-1B visa issue for baseball or basketball or hockey players?
The wages are unreal in these "professions", if the IT skills were really so short the "players" with them should be worth as much to Google/Microsoft as Yao Ming is to the Houston Rockets!
Disgusting.
re:Disgusting.
you're just afraid...
Re: Disgusting
RE: Google calls for hike in H-1B visas