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In China, many younger military leaders view America as the ultimate enemy

By | October 12, 2010, 7:41am PDT

Summary: Mainland China is a rapidly evolving world powerhouse, poised to become a competitor, a threat, or both.

Mainland China is a rapidly evolving world powerhouse. As the country gains power, moves its population more fully into the 21st century, and learns to compete and win against Western nations, China is poised to become a competitor, a threat, or both.

I started my China studies as part of my research for How To Save Jobs. China, as it turns out, has rapidly entered the world economic stage, is undercutting traditional industrial nations not only in manufacturing, but in IT, and has an almost infinite hunger for more — more of everything.

Over the last few years, I’ve started to developed a rather nuanced psychographic meta-model of what makes China tick. No matter how you run the numbers, the single biggest factor to keep in mind is the country’s population, which is the largest in the world.

It’s the size of this population that colors all other decisions and policies coming out of China. The country gives birth to more babies each year than the entire population of Canada. China has more honor students than we have students.

While many Chinese people are still dirt poor (and, in fact, live in huts with dirt floors), more and more of the Chinese population are leaving poverty and gaining an education. These Chinese citizens are both smart and aggressive, and are often the offspring of parents so poor, they make most of America’s worst impoverished seem almost wealthy by comparison.

Militarily, while China has historically shown up on our radar, they haven’t really been a direct threat. Oh, sure, as I discussed last month in Is China gearing up to start World War III?, China has always has a “thing” about Taiwan and has often conducted exercises intended to send a message to the world about their sense of entitlement regarding the small nation.

Overall, China hasn’t posed much of a threat to us.

This was, in part, because of China’s perception of a Soviet threat. To some degree, the elderly Chinese leaders in power considered all of the West a threat, but other than making sure they had some nukes, the threat was generally theoretical in nature, while the Soviet threat was very tangible, indeed.

However, an article in The New York Times has added a new factor to the meta-model of China: younger vs. older leaders.

As Michael Wines describes it, younger Chinese military leaders don’t have a decades-long history of looking to the Soviet Union as a major threat. While both the Soviets and the Chinese shared a Communist heritage, China has always felt somewhat threatened by the old Soviets’ empire-building proclivities.

Although China was somewhat protected to the north by Mongolia, their north western border was with the former Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic (now Kazakhstan) and on the north eastern border, their direct neighbor was Russia itself. Since the Soviets had a history of invading and annexing their neighbors, the perceived threat amongst older Chinese leaders wasn’t just unfounded paranoia.

These old school Chinese leaders subscribed, at least to some extent, to that old saw, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” and felt somewhat more secure with American interests because they knew most of our cold war military strategy was geared towards the Soviets.

But there’s a new generation of leaders coming into power.

The current Chinese leadership are people in their late 60s and 70s (think Michael Bloomberg and Joe Lieberman) while a new generation (think Barack Obama and Sarah Palin) are just coming into power.

While some of these younger leaders can actually see Russia from their windows, they have never really had to consider the Soviet Union as a threat. Instead, to them, their biggest direct threats are economic and logistic.

While older leaders were content to let most of their population fester (or at least had little motivation to change the status quo), the younger generation of Chinese leaders know that moving their population into the middle class is the key to creating a powerhouse nation. But they also know that a huge middle class population will consume excessive amounts of food, oil, water, and other resources of all types. I modeled this growth patten in How To Save Jobs and it’s not pretty.

While these younger leaders see America as a market in much the same way their elders did, the younger leaders also see America as a competitor for increasingly scarce resources that they need in ever increasingly large quantities.

They also don’t trust us.

While older Chinese leaders had long seen America conduct Cold War relations with a predictable level of severity, the younger leaders have seen us invade sovereign nations and they’ve seen our capricious governing style. They’ve seen how our poor economic management can have worldwide repercussions. And they’ve seen how willing we are to mortgage our future for a few votes today.

To these young Chinese leaders, America seems like the dangerous old bear, not Russia.

There’s another difference between younger Chinese leaders and older ones. The younger leaders, while not quite young enough (yet) to be digital natives, are still quite tech savvy. They understand computers and computer networks. They understand hacking. They understand cyberwarfare.

They understand how a cyberattack could disrupt a nation or a company.

They also understand traditional military. That’s why China is not only building its own carrier, they’re also investing in carrier-killing technology.

And, they also understand that they can undercut Americans for jobs and provide similar work output for a tenth of what American IT workers can afford.

These younger Chinese leaders need to be watched.

Unlike their elders, these young leaders and young warriors are not just capable of playing on the traditional military battlefield, they’re also fully prepared to battle us economically and even across the Internet.

Terrorists are one thing. But a fully empowered China, testing us politically and in cyberspace, while at the same time loaning us trillions (with all the resulting entanglements and obligations) — that’s almost terrifying.

As time goes on, more and more younger, digital generation Chinese leaders will come into power, and the United States will have to alter its policy to take their changing attitudes into account.

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RE: In China, many younger military leaders view America as the ultimate enemy
Scarface Claw 15th Nov
@trickytom3 "Imagine attempting to conquer and occupy a nation as large and diverse as the United States; you are talking about an impossible task. Even if you landed a million troops on our soil, that would only be about 20,000 troops per state, and that's simply not enough to occupy this country. "

China have almost 2.5m active troops and the resources and the ability to conscript a hell of a lot more very quickly. They could do a hell of a lot better than 1m troops.
China in IT? I'm sceptical, not because I'm Indian, but India would rather feel the pinch of IT competition from China.. Or maybe they're making higher end software I'm not aware of.. Mind clarifying that?
@Rahul Mulchandani But India is our friend, China isn't.
@Tiggster India is not our "friend" and I don't know where you get that point of view.
@Rahul Mulchandani "Sceptical?" Ah! "'S'eptical!" grin

Sorry, but I couldn't resist since I said "septical" instead of "skeptical" instead. happy
@Rahul Mulchandani China is poised to crush India in IT. Your garbage-strewn rural areas, your caste society and it's maltreatment of the poor pretty much guarantees it.
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China loaning "us" trillions shackles them.
matthew_maurice 12th Oct 2010
They'd love to diversify away from Dollars and T-Notes, but the Euro is hardly a safe-haven (thanks, Greece), and the fact is that there's no other serious choice (Besides, without a consumerific US economy China is still screwed). So, they can't get into too big a tiff with the US because they have a very large vested interest. In the same way the US can't put too much pressure on China to do things like free political dissidents or let the Yuan float freely because all foreseeable US governments will need Chinese financing of their budget deficits. Generals and Admirals on both sides may bluster, but as long as civilian politicians on both sides are running the show it will be business as usual.
@matthew_maurice

I agree. China loaning us money is a trick to manipulate currency markets, but it doesn't oblige us to China. Our debt relation to China right now is more like what these people with underwater homes are doing. If we decide we don't like it, we can just default. It will hurt our credibility, but we'd probably get away with it. Why? Everyone hates China. The U.K. for instance would probably keep loaning to us because they would believe, quite rightly, that we wouldn't do the same thing to them.

btw, China is actually investing just as much in the Euro and the in Greece. As you pointed out, clearly these are neither good nor safe investments. The only rational conclusion is that China is pumping cash into foreign currencies to increase their purchasing power and preclude the formation of local low cost labor markets.
Stop the xenophobia already, NO ONE is this world is as enamored as Americans are with America, if we don't want others to see us as threats, then stop being so GD aggressive and greedy toward everyone else. Believe it or not, not everyone wants to have the Walmart way of life.
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Haha
Dukhalion 12th Oct 2010
Iraq was Americas friend during Irans American citizen kidnapping crisis. And what happened then...
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Another boogeyman from David Gewirtz
nomorebs 12th Oct 2010
He is the new Joseph McCarthy
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@nomorebs The problem is that his international analysis leaves quite a bit to be desired.
@nomorebs spot on. Mr Gewirtz "researches a book" that stinks so badly he has to give it away. That makes him a Pundit?
Lincoln said, "as a nation of free men, we must either live through all time or die by suicide." I think he was trying to say that, at our best, no nation would ever conquer us from without but that we might well conquer ourselves from within. Frankly, I don't worry much about China and the America we have been for much of the past 2 centuries. I do, however, worry much about China (or some other self described enemy) and the America we seem to be fast becoming.
China already has about 30 missiles that can deliver nukes at a 12,000 range, and warheads for all of them. Just a small nuke is all you need to stop an aircraft carrier; and frankly, we don't still don't have a real reliable anti-ballistic missile defense, even with the upgraded patriots. They may posture a bit, but they are NOT going to nuke one of our carriers while we can still clean their clocks with sub-launched missiles, ICBMs, and B-2 bombers.

Our problem with a nuclear response to China isn't so much their blowing up any of our citys as it is that we eat the long range fallout, and everyone will have to put up with the global cooling that will accompany it. (Maybe we should blow them up anyway as a means of correcting AGW?)

China does not hobble their economy the way the U.S., or even Europe does with restrictive environmentalism. Wipe out the red tape of impact permits and studies and we could double our economy in a year.

If you've read Sun Tsu's, "Art of War", you'll see that China is unlikely to commit to military actions of any kind without being sure of success. And they won't use military action if political and economic pressures gain them what they want without violence.

The big 3 economic monoliths of 2010 are The U.S, China, and India. Russia is monolithic, but nowhere near the volume; and while EU is in the volume range, they're hardly monolithic. And Russia and the EU are both also suffering from the currently depressed economic conditions.
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M.A.D. take 2
shryko 12th Oct 2010
your comments about cleaning each other out clearly point to it.

Welcome to cold war 2.0
@Dr_Zinj I have read the Art of War and if the Chinese followed it strictly you are probably right, but that is never the reality. Superiority breads confidence and confidence often skews ones real view of the world, causing them to make mistakes.

As far as the restrictions, beyound the fact that I like living in a country that does not require masks to walk to work, or bottled water to keep from getting sick, there is a logistical advantage to environmentalism. When the Middle East runs out of oil and China's precious metals dwindle and populations are so great that they consume all livable area, the US will still have the resources, the land and hopefully better breathable air. I can never see why people do not see this, guess they are always living in the now where I am always thinking of retirement so all my thinking is about where I will be in 20 years, so I drive a old car while people that make the same as me drive audi's, BMW's, Lexuses etc. When I retire I will get to do what I want and I do not have to wait until I am so old I can't do anything.
I wish that is how our policticians thought, that is one thing I like about Obama, he seems to think more of the future and sustained growth and not so much with making things good now. To be honest America has been living beyound it's means for quite some time, we should feel lucky it is only 10% unemployment, it could be a lot worse. More often then not slow gowth is more sustainable and reliable to a quick upshot in growth then layoffs.
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Nuclear Subs
trickytom3 12th Oct 2010
@Dr_Zinj

Unfortunately for China, the US has a terrifyingly advanced nuclear submarine force; which means that, even if they did attack the US, their largest cities would be obliterated in a matter of hours.

Our nuclear sub force has one major purpose: to instill in a potential enemy the knowledge that any nuclear attack on the US means their ultimate destruction.

You also have to remember that - in time of nuclear war - China's large population becomes a detriment.
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You're talking oranges and tangelos.
matthew_maurice 12th Oct 2010
@Dr_Zinj Those 12,000 mile missiles are strategic ballistic missiles, and the odds of one successfully hitting anywhere near, let along within killing distance of, a Carrier Battle Group are laughably slim. A tactical nuke is a different story, but even then it's an improbably long shot.

The U.S. and China will probably never shot at each other again, most people forget that the U.S. spent more time fighting the Chinese in Korea than the North Koreans. If we do, I think it will escalate fast, and the U.S. will settle a lot of "family business" rather quickly. B-52s from Diego Garcia, B-2s from Guam and cruise missiles from the 3rd, 5th, and 7th Fleets will set the Chinese economy back to something Chaing Kai Shek might recognize. Again, it's something I doubt would ever happen, but consider this, the U.S. owes China trillions of dollars. Other wars have been started for far less.
@matthew_maurice After 28 years of military service, deep in my heart I still want the United States to be the "good Guys". Whether others see us that way or not is irrelevant and I don't care if they do or not. That is why reliance on nuclear weapons for our defense is so problematic. Supposing that the Chinese drop a tactical nuke on a carrier battle group - a purely military target. Does anyone really think that the appropriate response would be to obliterate China with nukes? Including it's civilian population? There has to be some more measured response available than MAD (mutually assured destruction).

This is why, in my opinion, an effective ballistic missile defense is so critical. If you can stop the missile from hitting its target in the first place, then the president doesn't need to kill a billion or so people in response. And if we do need to make a military response, there needs to be some high tech way for us to respond without setting the Chinese economy "back to something Chaing Kai Shek might recognize" and of course prompting China to respond with it's own strategic nukes.

Finally, all that said, when you are in business, going to war with your best customer is not really in your best interest and I think the Chinese are aware of that.
@matthew_maurice Because the USA *USED* to be the world's biggest exporter of oil, oil is priced in US$. Which means that if you want to buy oil from Saudi Arabia or Venezuela, you have to pay then in $$$. Result, there are a LOT of promissary notes floating around the world - all issued by the US treasury - which the USA never expects to repay. China doesn't NEED nukes: all it has to do is insist on paying for the oil it buys in something OTHER than dollars. Maybe flatscreen TVs?! Result, those trillions of dollars (no longer needed for oil purchase) come flooding back to the USA. The US$ value in the international currency market drops to parity somewhere around where the Italian Lira used to be: of almost no value ANYWHERE BUT the USA. That's the point at which a smart (foreign) investor starts to buy stocks, in the fire sale that Wall Street would turn into. When a share that's worth $100 is also worth 10c Canadian... The corporation rapidly gets bought by foreigners. Why nuke the USA when you can simply BUY it?
@Dr_Zinj

You really think they can get 12k? Maybe maybe 12,000 km. They haven't been afraid to show off what missiles they do have. One can look to the 1996 debacle where they fired missiles over Taiwan. If they had them, they would have shown them off by now.

Longterm China is hobbling their economy with their ecological wholesale destruction. They're poisoning their food and water supplies. If they continue at their current rate, all the U.S. needs to do is hold out for a decade or two and China will be overrun by deformed mutants.

China engaged in armed conflict in Kashmir to perpetual conflict, has hostile borders with India, and has tried to invade Taiwan three times. Oh, and Korea. That didn't go particularly well for either side. The point is, China has engaged repeatedly in conflict with absolutely no assurance of victory.

You left out Japan, which I believe China recently surpassed, but which I think still exceeds India.
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... China will undercut India.

This is no phenomenon. The Japanese were once able to undercut, and nearly ruin, the US automobile industry because Japanese wages were low, and that because Japanese rents were low, and that because all other prices were low.

But, as prosperity came, landlords, banks, clerks, janitors, ... everyone, wanted 'their' cut. Those bringing in the new streams of money didn't complain much because, after all, they could afford those rising prices.

Eventually, everyone enjoyed an increased standard of living to the point where more Japanese have been to Disneyland than native born Americans. The demands and expenses of this newfound prosperity brought Japan closer to the US in every way, but left Korea and India closer to where Japan used to be. Thus business began to migrate to Korea's and India's lower wages and prices.

But, as those two 'Asian Tigers' begin to roar and rear, so, too, does the rest of their economy, following the prosperity-cycle, leading business to move on to China for their next boon as the US' economy collapses under the weight of the demands of banks, landlords, and the government itself, at every level, determined to maintain their standard of living at the expense of those at the bottom of our society.

It's a lesson worthy of being written in stone.
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...and middle class requires a lower class.

To have a nation without a substantial "lower class", well, is not going to last forever.
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Counter point
cornpie 13th Oct 2010
@Gaius_Maximus I have been to India and while what you say is probably true...India going the way of Japan is going to take a very long time. Your statement that "Eventually, everyone enjoyed an increased standard of living" in Japan just doesn't apply to India yet and I think it will likely take at least another 50 years or more before that happens.
@Gaius_Maximus

Actually, this isn't really true at all. Toyota didn't seriously threaten American market share AT ALL until their employees were making wages comparable to non-UAW skilled labor shops in the U.S.(circa late 1980s), and they were well into a housing bubble that made owning a home in Japan twice as expensive as owning one here in 2006. Honda's weren't really that popular until the '90s, also known as Japan's lost decade. That is to say, productive capacity with the power to impact foreign markets TRAILS the formation of an educated middle class.
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And what
Quebec-french 12th Oct 2010
OK younger Chinese see usa as a enemy big didido ..... they gonna so what with it ......

first they lack EVERYTHING , food ,clean air,clean water. what it as to do with USA nothing. If i would be japan or the south east asia or india i would panic like hell.

But usa what are they gonna do swing .

OK china have carrier killing missile .... big deal from how many country USA can land plane around china ..... a lots.

If ever china tried to flex its muscle to widely you can be sure that the rest of the world will make sure that it would end asap
@Quebec-french

you've obviously haven't paid attention to china in the last 20 years with their mega growth. You have an old world view of them. Their middle class is rising so they are becoming wealthier. They don't have to make a military strike on us. They will simply take over as the #1 market in the world and then we will not even matter to them.

The kicker is that we are helping them to attain that position by outsourcing more and more jobs to china. Maybe if we stopped doing that we would retain our lead. But you'll never hear the ceos or ceos turned politicians address that.
@rengek
I have been in china 4 time in the last 3 years ( my best friend live there now making video game ..i do well know that the middle class is becoming wealthier big upgrade.... but they lack clean air and clean water the are the 1 or second world largest rice importer.

I you would see the condition of there live you would never consider live like that ever . We send job there because its cheaper period ... its not about quality or add value ..... Its CHEAPER period ..... the day company will be
break and beat up because of there lack of quality ... will see a change .

Also with all the social inequity ,tension,poverty name it you have it . China is in a lots worst situation that any other country in the world .

They are stuck with a truck load of usa money that they must support it or be stuck with a truck of worthless money .
@Quebec-french

Perhaps you should learn some English or Chinese, and read the news time to t ime.

Grow up, Frenchie.

This ain't the old world where you can obliterate a country by spreading propaganda.

If China simply called in US Debt, they could crumble North America. True, they'd lose a market, some might say. But think again. Australia's become a strong, stable and attractive market for Indian and Chinese exports. Asia itself consumes a fair bit of what China and India produce. These countries can produce AND consume.

If you're in Quebec, remember that unless you can afford to buy fuel from Kuwait (oil), South Africa (Uranium), India (Thorium/Uranium) or Australia (Uranium/Coal) your fingers'd be too frozen to type a response to this.
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well well well a other super brain
Quebec-french 12th Oct 2010
@undrkvabrtha
First about the language you just receive a middle finger salute. up your
2 your lack of knowledge is so profound that its blinding all the nice little raw material that you seem to talk about we have them at the exception of thorium ... but since in quebec we dont give a schei?e about nuclear plant because we have hydro electricity. so we dont froze up ....

Once again since you lack any knowledge about this subject and any other you should just stfu...

As far as australia which is a wonderful country for having the change of visiting 2 time your 22 ~ million people is a very small market , even smaller that canada .......33 million . if we compare to india ,eu ,usa,mexico we are not much ..... so any other point .

So since you lack any knowledge about the situation before claiming to grow up well you should shut up . Travel a bit around the world get out of the city and learn .....
@undrkvabrtha you know so much about nothing. Uranium from Saskatchewan, oil from Alberta and coal from BC. Do your research before you open that gaping hole in your head.
Cheers
@undrkvabrtha

China CAN'T call on that debt. They can't FORECLOSE on the U.S. The only thing they've got is the possibility of hurting our credit with the international community. If it came down to a default, it's more likely that Europe and Greece would side with the U.S. and cancel their own debts to China. That happening would still be somewhat of an economic disaster, but the notion that China could somehow take money from our bank accounts is absurd.
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You sort of lost all credibility
frgough 12th Oct 2010
When you confused an SNL skit with real life. What Palin actually said was that there were places in Alaska where you could actually see Russia. It was a clever way of pointing out that being governor of a state bordering an antagonistic foreign power gives you some foreign policy experience. But hey, it's so much easier to believe the Tina Fey correspondence course in history.
@frgough

Lol your clarification does nothing to remove the stupidity of Palin's comment. To be able to see Russia somewhere on the horizon does NOT give anyone foreign policy experience, for crying out loud. I have read her work background and she appears to have never had any dealings with Russia, neither as a municipal leader, a state leader, nor as a Vice Presidential candidate. In fact, her first foreign trip ever was on back in 2007 to Kuwait and Germany to visit the troops.

You are giving Palin's "clever" nature far too much credit -- by a longshot... In fact, by about how far Alaska is from Russia. Talk about losing credibility!
@dropzone@... And exactly how much foreign relations experience did nilBama get in Chicago, or voting "present" in the Senate?
No way threat,from china ... they need to lower their Mega population and look into their own economic problems.
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...and supply is provided by the entire world.

The US is no more self-sufficient than China is, so, don't think that this doesn't affect the US too.
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Yes usa is self sufficient
Quebec-french 12th Oct 2010
@shryko
Energy , food , water, usa is self sufficient in a case of emergency where everything is nationalize and put to protect the american society .....
In a concept of war of attrition /economic war who would last the longest ....usa by a long mile .

USa have coal,oil,nuke , raw material, meat ,dairy,veggies.water and clean air .....

Cut the import of rice to the china and watch it starve.

USa is im a far superior position than China in case of drastic measure
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Logic without Politics
tangentjohn@... 12th Oct 2010
They BIG, strong, hungry. We flabby, spoiled, satiated.
They smart getting smarter. We smart, getting dumber.
They agile, lithe sneaky. We..... sneaky.
They alert. We busy scratching butt.
They pounce. We get digested.
Rule of nature. Deal with it!
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The Real Logic
trickytom3 Updated - 12th Oct 2010
@tangentjohn@...

We innovate...they copy
We have advanced nuclear sub fleet...they die by millions
@tangentjohn@...
+1.

I'm sorry to say that yours is a very succinct and accurate analysis, IMHO.

Best wishes, G.
"@Rahul Mulchandani But India is our friend,China isn't." Thats quite funny -according to whom?I remember having it pounded into my kid brain the whole time I was growing up: Russia is our enemy. Israel is our Friend. Etc.Etc.On and On and On.You keep it up. Just keep on repeating what you have been told. They are counting on you.
It would be beneficial to remember that China has to feed all those people; especially the emerging middle and upper classes who want the goods and services. How much will China be able to mechanize agriculture is one question? The other is how will they pay to import food and from where? The focus on food will possibly cause them to look for places where they can get food, either from existing agriculture or maybe to take control via economics, of some fertile land on which to raise the food that their citizens will demand. Food is also a weapon.
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We should have listened to MacArthur during the Korean war and applied his solution to the Chinese problem. But if we can get a laser based anti-ICBM system up and running we might have a great window of opportunity to get rid of them once and for all.
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But isn't it the same vice versa? What do you expect?
cool_techie Updated - 12th Oct 2010
When China-bashing is widespread in the US and US spy planes routinely snoop along Chinese coast, do you really expect China to view the US as a nice ally?
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Short memories
Reindeer911 12th Oct 2010
Dave, remember back in the late '90's when China threatened to nuke Los Angeles? The Chinese spies we caught at Los Alamos? How about the AWACS incident about 10 years ago? How about the fact that we fought two wars right on their doorstep, one of which involved them directly? How about the idea that China still holds a grudge towards the Anglosphere resulting from the Opium wars?

No Dave, I don't think it's just the younger Chinese leaders that have a low opinion of the U.S. LOL!
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Not just the Chinese military...
mrgoose 12th Oct 2010
Sadly, it's not just China's young military. Here in Europe, the United States is not exactly flavour of the month with many in the military either. Two stupid, pointless and expensive wars, Iraq and Afghanistan, both based predominately upon lies and half-truths have cost the armed services of many EU countries dearly, both in terms of money and more importantly, in terms of human suffering.

The United States perpetual stream of wilful misinformation, the unlawful activity by its security services and a catalogue broken promises do it no favours either, e.g. WMD, Guantanamo Bay and Extraordinary Rendition, to name but a few. I don't think many Americans realise just how much damage has been done to the US's reputation with these fiascos.

I was in Berlin when the Wall came down. In the late 1980's and early 1990's the USA was seen as the great beacon of light here in Europe, the representative of freedom and democracy. My, how things have changed.

Today, many in Europe, and around the world, both within and outside the military regard the United States, with its ever-growing death rows, and huge prison population c/w it's private prison culture, the ever widening massive gulf between its richest and its poorest and its total inability to control its mind-bogglingly corrupt financial services sector as being worse than the former Soviet Union. At least in the many of the former communist states, everyone had access to free health care and free higher education.

I feel very sorry for the USA and for its people. You have been screwed-over for many years by your leaders. But your last president and the evil people that pulled his strings have completely ruined everything for you. Sadly, I see no way back for you now. And I'm afraid it's about to get a lot worse for you folks. Your corporate-owned media is not softening you up with talk of "double dip recession" for nothing, you know!

Don't believe me? Take a look at this:-
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2187rank.html

In particular, please look at who's at the top, with the massive current account surplus. Then please scroll right down to the very bottom of the list, and observe who has the greatest deficit. Please bear in mind the figures are produced by the US's own intelligence services. So the real situation is probably even worse. And this is just one indicator.

If you want another indicator, then please take a look at how much money the US Government has wasted, and is continuing to waste on those stupid wars:-
http://costofwar.com/

Meantime, care to guess what The People's Republic of China is doing with some of its surplus cash, while the the United States Government burns its citizen's money at the rate of over $2000.00 per second? Yep, PRC is buying up as much of the planet's mineral resorces as it can possibly lay its hands on:-
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/fears-of-chinese-land-grab-as-beijings-billions-buy-up-resources-2095451.html

All very sad, best wishes, G.
@mrgoose

While I agree that the actions of the government in response the financial services sector was appalling, let's keep it in perspective. The U.S. let some asshats do some stupid things. Most EU governments were complicit in doing stupid things. Ireland, Iceland, the U.K., Spain, Greece, France, and Portugal were happy to grow their own investment banking often at the spurring of direct government intervention and reap the reward at the height of the boom. Pretty much, Germany is the only country with a legitimate gripe.

While U.S. deficit spending is an issue, your single metric analysis doesn't well support your conclusion.

1. PPP is specifically not calculated, and with only a few exceptions those countries maintaining positive balances have HORRIBLE economies. Even Sweden is suffering right now. China has such a high balance exactly because it's so inept at investing in itself. They don't know what to spend it on.

2. While I think that your numbers are reasonably accurate, I'd like you to note that the total cost both wars over 9 years is less than 1/3 of what the government spent just in 2009. If it were just about dollars, we could eliminate our debt and invade Iran if all we did was suspend social security payments for five years.
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"It?s the size of this population that colors all other decisions and policies coming out of China. The country gives birth to more babies each year than the entire population of Canada."

Hardly, not unless you are looking at the population of Canada in 1951. Canada's population is @33 million. China does not have 33 million babies born each year.

China has a birthrate of @10 births/ 1000 people, or @ 13.3 million births/ year as of 2008.
@trickytom3 "Imagine attempting to conquer and occupy a nation as large and diverse as the United States; you are talking about an impossible task. Even if you landed a million troops on our soil, that would only be about 20,000 troops per state, and that's simply not enough to occupy this country. "

China have almost 2.5m active troops and the resources and the ability to conscript a hell of a lot more very quickly. They could do a hell of a lot better than 1m troops.

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