Microsoft Xpad: what if Ballmer changed the game and created an iPad competitor based on Xbox?

Summary: What if Microsoft changed up the rules and created a pad that was based on Xbox and Xbox Live?

Sometimes over the weekend, I get to play video games. My wife prefers the PS3, but I tend to gravitate towards the Xbox 360. I've been catching up on the old Mass Effect after having used up all the available Splinter Cell variations.

The thing about Mass Effect is every time you transition from one area to another, you have to ride these unbelievably slow elevators.

It gives you time to think.

In and amongst all this glorious weekend time, I read Adrian's iPad caught Microsoft with its pants down article.

Everyone is fond of saying Ballmer and Microsoft don't "get" consumer products, but the Xbox rocks. It's a perfect system, designed to do exactly what it was intended to do, which is to host some of the best games ever made. It had an App Store way before the iPhone did. It's also highly social, providing social networking functions years before Facebook arrived on the scene.

The Xbox is not a Windows 7 machine. It's not designed for use with a mouse or a stylus. In fact, now that Natal is Kinect (oh, I frakin' hate that name!), the Xbox can be used without any interface device at all. Admittedly, not everyone wants to feed Skittles, but Microsoft clearly gets that users don't always use mice or styli.

This brings me back to Microsoft vs. the iPad.

As soon as the tablet PCs came out, I bought myself one. It was wildly expensive compared to a regular laptop (close to a 100% premium) and it failed constantly. I returned it back to Acer at least twice. But I wanted to be able to have a tablet-form machine that I could take notes on and draw design sketches on.

I never did use it for that. First, every time I flipped the screen around, the machine flipped out. I had to reboot. Rebooting took -- well -- it seemed like days. The reason I mention this is that while the tablet PC was technically transformable. I tended to either keep it in laptop mode or tablet mode for months at a time.

Of course, XP was running on a device with 256 meg of RAM and there was no way to add RAM. Admittedly, almost 10 years later, the iPad also has only 256 megabytes of RAM and there's no way to modify the iPad at all. The difference is that the iPad isn't trying to run XP.

My elevator has almost reached the Normandy's docking area, so I better finish this up.

Let's take a minute to look at some of Microsoft's product areas. There's Windows, of course. Then there's the highly under-appreciated Zune. Then there's Xbox and Xbox Live. Then there's Kinect for Xbox. Then there's Windows Media Center, which also provides a non-mouse, non-pen interface.

Clearly, at some level, Microsoft does, in fact, grok computing environments that work in ways that go beyond the pen and the mouse.

Apple has turned a barely functional device (the iPad) into a consumer phenom. They've convinced a whole new group of users that they don't need to create (normally Apple's core market), but instead consume. Even for consuming, the iPad is barely adequate. You can't share bookmarks, the email interface is dumb to the point of silliness, and there's no file system.

Yet, even I bought an iPad.

I don't have much of a use for it, but I own it (my wife really likes the thing). But I'm different from the average consumer. I'm far more a creator than a consumer. If there were a Windows 7-based pad, I'd buy it and I'd probably install my programming environment on it and code while others are happily playing We Rule on their iPads.

Most consumers will not and would not buy a Windows 7 pad computer. They're fed up, overwhelmed, and baffled with Windows configuration, debugging, malware, and all the rest. If the Steve of the Ballmer clan thinks Microsoft's future is in a Windows 7 pad, he's unquestionably mistaken. As a content creator and a geek, that fact bums me out, but it's obvious and it's true.

Consumers do, however, love the Xbox. In this part if its business, Microsoft clearly gets it.

So, what about an Xpad?

Apple has clearly proven that games work on the pad form-factor. Microsoft has some of the very best game talent anywhere.

What if Microsoft changed up the rules and created a pad that was based on Xbox and Xbox Live? It'd support music from Zune, it'd support media and content downloading. It'd have an already well-baked and operational app store. It'd have an already deeply loyal social networking component in Xbox Live.

It'd change the pad game, quite literally. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

Well, that's it for me. Skippy Shepard and I have some geth to kill.

What about you? Would you buy an Xpad? Oh, man. Can you imaging playing a real game of Halo from anywhere, against all your friends? It gives me shivers!

Topics: Microsoft, Hardware, iPad, Mobility, Windows

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  • WOW

    I actually had a similar thought the other day! The new Kinect dashboard would make a great tablet device interface.
    rjohn05
    • I'll Buy it in a Heartbeat Too!!!

      @rjohn05 I had a passing thought about a game phone based on Xbox OS. But this is even better and combined with some production tools based in Azure Cloud you could have a Cross between Chrome and Xbox Live OS. Which would be far superior to CrApple's Winnie the Poo Meets Bejeweled ridiculously asinine game content. Again they're all about Quantity over Quality and one thing Xbox 360 proved is that consumers are willing to buy Quality games over Quantity any day!<br><br>Nintendo and CrApple are very much alike. Neither is marketing to the Elite game community though. Crapple markets solely to illiterate geeks with too much money burning holes in their pockets. They are for the most part brainless idiots with their filthy rich white collar criminal mommies and daddies stuffing ill gotten gains in their pockets. For them to blow on worthless Fake Rollex Tinker Toys. Yeah..... look nice but can they do the things you buy them to do (like tell the time or make call w/o dropping them)? Not likely! haha..... like suckers (I mean customers).... there's one born every minute, dumb enough to fall for CrApple's hype! .....like Banned from ZDNet below! lol<br><br>But in the REAL Gaming World of Xbox Live, the difference is Night and Day and REAL GAMERS....... KNOW IT! <img border="0" src="http://www.cnet.com/i/mb/emoticons/wink.gif" alt="wink"><br><br>Xpad would sell like CRAZY and put iFad to death before CrApple's very eyes. Pulling from a customer base of over 40 $$$MILLION$$$ Xbox 360's Sold to Date alone!!!

      Add in PC Gamers and the gig is up for CrApple!
      i2fun@...
  • the last argument of the IT doofuses

    "Apple has turned a barely functional device (the iPad) into a consumer phenom. They?ve convinced a whole new group of users that they don?t need to create (normally Apple?s core market), but instead consume. Even for consuming, the iPad is barely adequate. You can?t share bookmarks, the email interface is dumb to the point of silliness, and there?s no file system."

    a file system! dear god, give us a filesystem!

    millions of people and 50% of the fortune 100 companies are already producing content every day with this "useless toy" with thousands of very functional apps. of course IT doofuses that think only coding is "content creation" will never get that.

    but it is a good think that all the clueless tech observers are gathered here at zdnet. so you only have to go one place for a laugh (or shaking your head in utter disbelieve, depending on your mood).
    banned from zdnet
  • RE: Microsoft Xpad: what if Ballmer changed the game and created an iPad competitor based on Xbox?

    [i]Yet, even I bought an iPad.

    I don?t have much of a use for it[/i]

    That seems to be the common theme amongst iPad users. They bought it just to have it. I had the chance to play with one at Best Buy over the weekend. I was less than impressed. Heavier than I expected, doesn't sit flat, no good way to hold the thing. I like the idea of the Xpad though. If Microsoft were to come out with something like that they would corner the market. A lot of people love the Xbox360 so if you combine the two you have one outstanding portable gaming platform.
    Loverock Davidson
  • Eh...

    The though of ever buying any kind of Ipad (or something of that sort) has never crossed my mind, but Microsoft has always been one for developing very intiguing and attractive ways to use technology. I would have to think that being able to browse through Xbox Live's Marketplacewith the use of a portable device like a tablet or pad or whatever might be something i'd look into, but i definately wouldnt play COD or Halo on it, that'd probably be bad for your eyes if someone were to spend as much time on it as a TV =p
    dsargent77
  • Yes... IF

    IF it had physical buttons. At minimum, a gaming phone/tablet would need an analog stick or D-pad and shoulder buttons. I'm sure these buttons could double for other purposes on the device, such as navigation. This is my number one wish for a future Windows Phone 7 phone/tablet. Hope someone's listening...?
    NativeFloridian
    • Or...

      @NativeFloridian
      A combination of the native touch interface with the ability to connect a 360 wireless controller to it. To me that would be perfect. Some games are perfectly fine with just touch. Bejeweled and many other puzzle games, RTS would likely work very well, etc. Then you have a controller for games that require it, such as SF4 or a FPS.
      LiquidLearner
      • RE: Microsoft Xpad: what if Ballmer changed the game and created an iPad competitor based on Xbox?

        @LiquidLearner

        I like were you're going with this. Just as I was thinking.

        I reckon the Xpad with a stand and the ability to be able to use and xbo360 controller with it would be awesome.

        Full xbox 360 games wouldn't be what's needed. But I think they should get XBLA titles across. I mean there are all those XBLA titles that would be perfect. It would also bring developers to XBLA which would generate more $$ as they can create the game to be used with both the XBOX 360 and the Xpad.

        My goodness, if something like this was to come about, I would give M$ access to my wallet !!
        dcfan1
    • RE: Microsoft Xpad: what if Ballmer changed the game and created an iPad competitor based on Xbox?

      @NativeFloridian

      Given PSPGo current design I can easily see PSP 2 contain the touch screen an there having the phisical controls just slide out like they do already on the PSP GO.
      Knowles2
  • It's almost as though...

    zdnet [b]is[/b] LoveRock. Pretty much every opinion expressed is flamebait, and the truth is never in line with their views...

    How about trying to do journalism zdnet?
    zkiwi
    • If they . . .

      @zkiwi

      Aren't suppling you with what you need, why are you still here?
      JLHenry
  • so

    your complaint is the iPad is just a consumer toy.

    it's all about creation, code... you'd buy one in a heartbeat so you can... play games? the game changer would be the game playing/social network/ blah blah blah aspect of it?

    so the advantage would be more games? xbox games?
    what happened to the great creator? what about all that code that needs to be written?

    and this is different than the ipad how? because of zune? xbox social? media? content downloading?

    sounds like a microsoft centric iPad clone to me.
    sportmac
    • How many consumers actually would write their own?

      @sportmac... probably less than 1%. So Apple, a consumer company, should make the iPad able to develop code on for >1% of their users? Really? If you are going to develop for the iPad or iOS, you are going to buy an Apple Computer and develop on that.

      I agree with you.
      Snooki_smoosh_smoosh
  • So David you are basically saying

    Microsoft should copy the iPad in every way. And then that would magically legitimize it for you. It is truly amazing how denial stunts the thought process.
    CowLauncher
  • Dave...

    People love the xbox 360 only when it isn't sent in for repair, even there it is the Apple product of the Gaming world. Non-standard connectors, overly expensive components($150 for and Eye to..er... Kinect, $100 for wireless N card...External even), no blu-ray support, $50 p/yr membership to gold to even use the Netflix feature! <br><br>I have gone through (3) Xbox 360 consoles, the second one went in for repair twice, so far the third one has held up, but I am not holding my breath. My Original PS3, hasn't failed once. <br><br>MSFT abuses its 360 users, your worst than the most avid of Apple fans.

    The original PS3 sold for $699, I have bought 3 xbox 360 elites, the 2 before the price drop, Xbox has a much higher TCO than any other console.
    Snooki_smoosh_smoosh
  • Microsoft blogger fanbase is anxiously waiting for an answer...

    Despite having bought an iPad, both David and MJ to some extent will never be fully satisfied until it have that Microsoft branding it seems. That Microsoft smell. Some will be happy when tablets finally becomes that perfect (mythical) note taking device that Gates first spoke about in 2000. Remember everyone was supposed to be using digital ink in place of paper by now? Keep waiting.<br><br>The iPad is not apologizing for what it is, which is why it's selling so well I presume. It's a consumption device first and foremost that will surely see more productivity use as it grows. Many consumers and businesses are using it for productivity now. But unlike Microsoft and Gates, Apple is not telling folks to throw out their computers (or pen and paper in meetings just yet). It is what it is, and consumers get that. Now for some, it will most certainly be a PC replacement.
    dave95.
  • Xbox tablet's appeal limited

    I'm not a gamer, but I have to admit Microsoft hit a home run with the Xbox, but can it be turned into a tablet OS? There are thousands of useful apps, aside from games, that run on iPad. Can Microsoft port Office to an Xbox based tablet?

    When I bought my iPad I wasn't sure how I would use it either, but I suspected I would keep it at home and use if for portable computing, and I was correct. I browse the web, I run various apps including a few games, everywhere in my house, on my porch, in the backyard, etc. I don't use it for music, my iphone is great for that, but watching videos is amazing on it.

    Now an Xbox based tablet may be nice for gamers, but will it break out beyond the limited success of the Zune? I think Apple is far more vulnerable to the new RIM based tablet in the enterprise market, where the iPad is just beginning to make inroads.
    Bryan Dale
    • RE: Microsoft Xpad: what if Ballmer changed the game and created an iPad competitor based on Xbox?

      @Bryan Dale

      "Now an Xbox based tablet may be nice for gamers, but will it break out beyond the limited success of the Zune? I think Apple is far more vulnerable to the new RIM based tablet in the enterprise market, where the iPad is just beginning to make inroads."

      Actually, I think the Dell Streak will give them both a hard act to follow. Dell are already supplying a lot of companies with PC's, and I'm sure a lot of those companies will use that as leverage to get good deals on it too.
      Tinman_au
  • Power consumption?

    Doesn't the XBox 360 have a 3 core PPC for a processor? Do you think halo would look cool running on an ARM? I thought that Halo on an ARM processor would choke. The originally XBOX had difficulty keeping up with Halo I, I doubt that Halo would run well on my Atom Netbook. You can forget about playing those cool games on a device that is designed for low power consumption.
    balsover
  • RE: Microsoft Xpad: what if Ballmer changed the game and created an iPad competitor based on Xbox?

    David: Basically you want a Windows Phone 7 modified for a bigger display.
    rmark@...