Obama: Health Care Reform "Like a Patients' Bill of Rights on Steroids"

By | March 22, 2010, 7:52am PDT

Summary: Change will happen, but it won’t be as drastic or dramatic as some think it will be. President Obama suggested Health Care Reform is like Bill of Rights on Steroids.

Sunday’s vote on U.S. health care reform was one of the heated and argued pieces of legislation in recent history. Did the government create socialized medicine? Is the government taking over health care? Is the path of the government going to bankrupt the country? Those questions and more were asked.

After watching 6 plus hours of C-SPAN rhetoric, platitudes and opinions on what health care reform was going to do if passed, it came down to three votes that ultimately allowed the health care reform bill to pass. The legislation doesn’t even come close to socialized medicine like Canada’s. If anything, HR 3590 is of regulations similar to that of the United Kingdom, in which private (insurance premiums) and public operated programs are available side by side. The U.S. already offers such assistance such as Medicare / Medicaid. Canada does have some private health care insurance programs for non-essential services.

Government run - the only government components of the legislation is expanding the existing Medicare / Medicaid programs, U.S. military health care, Co-Pay (COBRA) assistance and simply ensuring that insurance policies can be purchased regardless of the health of a patient. In Canada, health care is 100% operated and managed by the provincial and federal government departments responsible for health care services, including the facilities (hospitals and most specialized needs such as MRI’s, CT scans, etc.), payments to all healthcare employees- then you have government run health care. Under Canadian law, every citizen is covered and nobody can be refused treatment or services. Premium costs vary from province to province and your status, i.e.: single, student, married, senior, etc.

A key area of savings is stopping waste, fraud and abuse of existing programs. Electronic health records and prescription drug records will go a long way to finding these savings. This assumes that the Health care IT industry can agree to a single set of standards. If HIPPA is any example, that could prove difficult to solve all the demands required. There are signs that the framework within HIPPA can be done. IT systems can and do cross reference records through several SOA architectures that can interoperate with a variety of systems. It is a significant set of steps. Abuse and fraud detection is a responsibility that the insurance industry also has to wake up to and take partial accountability for. In fact I think the CBO numbers underestimate the amount of fraud and over payments that Medicaid / Medicare payout to insurance carriers. It would not surprise me if they find more than $500 billion  in waste and fraud.

The biggest change in healthcare that U.S. citizens will see is the insurance industry becoming very conservative how they invest health care premiums they collect to make money. With the HR 3590 legislation, insurance carriers will no longer be able to drop its customers because of pre-existing health care related risks. That of course means higher payouts when a benefit claim has to be paid out. The insurance industry can still make money, it simply won’t be as a high rate of return that allows short term risks in how they invest and make bets with premium revenues collected. This behavior alone may create the large pools of insurance clients that create large revenue opportunities. The insurance industry lost billions investing is poorly regulated sectors, AIG being exhibit A. This legislation alone will change how insurance carrier executives invest premiums.

Change will happen, but it won’t be as drastic or dramatic as some think it will be. President Obama suggested that Health Care Reform is like Bill of Rights on Steroids. It’s probably not that powerful since the President originally did propose a public option, but it certainly goes a long way creating equality in health care solutions for its citizens. The White House has one final hurdle to overcome in the Senate with the reconciliation bill requiring a vote Monday. Sorry, there’s no way I’m going to watch yet another 6 hours of C-Span coverage, you can do that yourself. C-SPAN’s coverage is scheduled to start live coverage at 2 ET.

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Doug Hanchard

Doug is the principal of Rapid Response Consulting, an advisory group that integrates ICT solutions. He has worked at some of the largest telecommunications firms in Canada, including Bell Canada, Telus and AT&T and is a guest lecturer for several universities and associations. He serves on several advisory boards in Canada and the United States.

Starting with a new national ISP in 1993 in sales, positioning internet access, web sites and network services began the path of telecommunications technologies from the early Bulletin Board Services (BBS) to the first web pages for commercial clients.

Became the National Data Network Service Manager for Frame Relay and Internet access for AccTel Enterprises which was acquired (after 3 mergers already) by AT&T Canada. Interested in how marketing could expand service availability, he moved to Telus to become the Frame Relay / ATM Product Manager and expanded the network across Canada. In 2002 he went to Bell Canada becoming a Solution Architect to get back to his passion for technology working with enterprise clients. In 2006, became the Director of R&D and Senior Solution Architect for Bell Canada Security Solutions Inc, developing I.P. based physical and logical security platforms and ICT services.

This position created new commercial concepts such as Crisis and Disaster technology solutions required for emergency use after an event occurred. He designed interoperable technologies and application combinations allowing any to any I.P. service through landline, broadband, satellite and wireless technologies to be deployed anywhere

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RE: Obama: Health Care Reform
birumut Updated - 3rd May 2011
Great!! ! thanks for sharing this information to us!
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the real Americans will raise against this bill
Linux Geek Updated - 22nd Mar 2010
and will demand the senate rejects it.
The comrade in the White House and his socialist baby killers will pay the price for not respecting the people's vote.
It is imperative that 'we the people' rally arround our conservative leaders like Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney to repel this anti American bill.
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Sarah Palin?
SmAcKjAcK 22nd Mar 2010
C'mon, really?
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Is that the best retorte you got?
cfcoder 23rd Mar 2010
You defend this bill with that lame response? How do you think we will pay for the $2.5-10 Trillion the next 10 yrs are going to cost tax payers? Huh? Has nothing to do with or about Sarah Palin? If she rallies the grass roots against this outrage, great! But in the mean time how do you propose we pay for this 1/6th of the entire US economy in size price tag?? If you are a young person... it will be coming out of your paycheck for a long long time!
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Joe Biden?
bobc4012@... 24th Mar 2010
First, the main-stream media is scared to death of Sarah Palin because she is not a "Progressive" (Communist or Socialist). When "Catty" Couric asked her about "Mark to Market", she didn't even know what it meant until she was told to ask the question just before the interview. The mainstream media ripped her on that, but Couric and that same media never said a word when she asked Biden about the "great depression" in 1929 and he said "President Roosevelt went on National TV and "calmed the public". Now, lets see, who was president in 1929 and when and where was the first TV transmission. Hmmm, it seems that Couric, Biden and the mainstream media must have had the same public school education. Second, I doubt the authors of this article have read or even understood nearly 3000 pages of this bill. If it was so great, why is a huge part of it not enacted until 2018 (after Obama is gone - hopefully, he doesn't become another Chavez, who he deeply admires). Only a couple of minor pieces are enacted before 2013, which would be the start of a second term if the stupid, public school "dumbed-downed" Americans and illegals vote him back in. Third, given the time-frame when most of this bill was enacted, why the rush to sign it now. And don't blame the Republicans, their input was rejected and then blamed for not participating. Where was there any legislation for tort reform - the main reason for all those "unnecessary tests" Obama wants to end - more law suits and money for his lawyer buddys coughed up by those "greedy" insurance companies. Lastly, while I don't agree with the million dollar salaries of CEOs of PUBLICLY held companies (which they did not start (founded)), you take a large insurance co. with, say 5 million subscribers and the CEO getting, say 10 million, that raised the insurance rate a whole $2/year, less than what many of you spend at Starbucks everyday. Also, don't forget, two of the richest BUSINESS people, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett donate big-time to the Democrat party and the elected Democrats - plus that Hungarian citizen, George Soros. So you can't accuse big business of being pro-Republican - this last election, I seem to recall reading (in the back pages of the newspaper) that big business donated more heavily to the Democrat party than the Republican party - they knew McCain was a bad candidate and too many people were fed up with that "democrat - claiming to be a republican" G.W. Bush - so they put their money where there would be payback.
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Parasites think they are entitled to everything
LBiege Updated - 22nd Mar 2010
Food.
Healthcare.
Housing,
Education.
Transport.
...

"Hey I don't know how to pay for all that. You guys go rob those ants for me. I just know I'm entitled to them."
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Unfortuantely I have to agree...
TheBottomLineIsAllThatMatters 23rd Mar 2010
The whole welfare thing was to get people to be self sufficient and back on their feet. Not live like a parasite on the 10% that actually pay. While health care does not reform, having the democrates in charge of it will create a huge mess, that is going to collapse on itself...time will tell. I just hope we have learned from the mistakes the news media reports about Europe. There was a news cast on the UK and they were paying out way more than was coming in...it was a bad situation, that our socialist narrow vision president and croanies are setting us up for...maybe not. Heck he doesn't even know what is in that bill - sad, very sad.
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democrats mess?
Creeping Critter 23rd Mar 2010
USTechHead: Your response is pathetic. Where was this same comment when this country was still using welfare, still a mess and starting a idiotic war for oil in HELLO GW BUSH world republicans?
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The democrats have been a front organization for socialists, communists and other looters since the 1920's.

I wish the global war had been about oil. Now THERE is a rallying point.
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Socialist? Communist?
dColtrane 23rd Mar 2010
Do you even know what those words mean???

They mean the government control the means of
production. The factories and businesses.

It's the other way around in this country. Big money
owns the government (not the people) and controls
the mainstream media baloney you've been binging on.
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Ayn Rand called them "looters" in 1957
Too Old For IT 23rd Mar 2010
Now they are merely parasites? Naw. I think they are still actively looting the best of what this country had to offer in order to make it a paradise for those who cannot or will not be productive.
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Rand is such a snake oil peddler.
bernalillo 24th Mar 2010
Seriously. I've read her works. She is the epitome of us vs them mentality. Her claims of superiority are catnip to those who seek a scapegoat for thier problems. She is no thinker but she does utilize the same ploys that are used in any fascist organization to recruit and manipulate the rank and file.
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Ayn Rand called them
Too Old For IT 23rd Mar 2010
Now they are merely parasites? Naw. I think they are still actively looting the best of what this country had to offer in order to make it a paradise for those who cannot or will not be productive.
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Parasites?
dColtrane 23rd Mar 2010
Are small business owners parasites when their child
is denied health insurance because they have
diabetes or some other pre-existing condition?

Are you a parasite when your insurance company cuts
you off because you have a 'chronic' condition?

Among developed nations, we are the richest, and yet
only here are these things allowed. Time for change
HAS come.
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Well said
BOSS4908 22nd Mar 2010
The thing to remember. This will only cost us the taxes from now to November and the pay out not until 4 years. That is when the tax and spend socialist congress gets thrown out on in it's !#@$. This bill if not ruled unconstitutional before then will be resented after November election... I have faith in the American people but not this socialist goverment we have. America the land of the free and the brave will withstand this attack from the Communist leaders voted in.
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The Red Scare lives on
Michael Alan Goff 24th Mar 2010
Everyone FEAR THE COMMUNIST AND/OR SOCIALIST TAKEOVER PLOT. Of course, when big business is controlling the white house? It's alright. No, I take it back. That's a sign that the American Economy is going strong.
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sarcasm?
bannedfromzdnetagain 22nd Mar 2010
sarah palin is your leader? boy that is, well, unbelievable. to say the least.
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REAL AMERICAN?
twaynesdomain 23rd Mar 2010
A "real American" doesn't use the language you did: Fanatics and closed minds speak that way. Whether I agreed with you or not, rest assured, you do NOT speak for this "real American" and never will. You follow; I'll lead.
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That is the types of things being changed. Why don't you start paying attention to what is actually going on instead of what the medical groups are telling you. Also this is to help those who need insurance get insurance. can you afford to pay $400 a month to pay for insurance that some companies refuse to provide?
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when they can go to Walmart and buy a bottle of 800 for $2.50. Strawmen burn up with fire and blow away with the wind!
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Aspirin
zdnet-gregc 23rd Mar 2010
You're not allowed to bring your own medication into the hospital. Not even over-the-counter stuff.

If you are on regular medication, you have to tell them what, and it has to be dispensed by the hospital pharmacy.

My father used to sneak his regular meds in with him so that if they got it wrong (which they often did) he could make it right from his illicit private stash.

No one actually pays $800 directly out their pocket for an aspirin. Insurance companies pay the hospital and all of us with insurance policies pay for it in the premiums.
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And, you like that??...
windozefreak 23rd Mar 2010
I believe this will change under this law.
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I believe it will change, too
jonniva 24th Mar 2010
Now the aspirin will be $880. Unless you are on medicaid. Seniors will probably have to pay for it themselves. I don't see where there are any cost savings at all. It's just shifting costs to someone else. Shifting even more costs to taxpayers and people who already have insurance.
I wonder if the OP actually read the Senate bill or the House package of fixes. I cannot figure out how he arrived at these conclusions.
Do you really think that covering pre-existing conditions costs nothing? Do you really think that people who do not sign up for insurance until they are sick do not have an effect on premiums?
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Power grab, not Reform
cfcoder Updated - 23rd Mar 2010
The sad thing about this bill is that it does not address the waste going on in the medical arena, torte reform, and other ways to reduce costs of health care. Instead it will drastically increase the cost of health care to cover 30M more people. WHO is going to pay for this??? Coverage doesn't come for free! People love government handouts. That's why the non-working class love this bill. But there will be a price to pay! A HUGE price to pay for generations!

Name one government run large scale program that has been run efficiently (think $1000 toilet seats the pentagon purchased or do you remember back that far?) Medicare? Medicaid? They claim $1T for the first 10 yrs. Ha!! I predict it will cost that much by the end of year 4 if not sooner! This program will mushroom in cost and taxes will go up for all of us, except of course those not working. Working class Americans will struggle to bear this horrendous load for decades until our fragile economy collapses. Then who you going to blame? Uh let me guess... Pres. Bush?

This bill is nothing more than a power grab by socialist minded liberals. They want to control your lives and take away your freedoms. With their hands on your health care, they can and will control other aspects of your life. They can leverage it to control your freedoms. Just watch and see.
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Government run programs
Too Old For IT 23rd Mar 2010
The government can't even run small-scale programs effectively. Heck, the Federal Government couldn't even run the Mustang Ranch at a profit!!
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The Government can't run anything right:
Michael Alan Goff 24th Mar 2010
-Roads
-The military
-Police
-Firemen
-Schools
-THE BEST HEALTH INSURANCE IN THE UNITED STATES (Military)

Nope, they can't run anything right. XD

Profit, profit, profit. That's not really the only measure of success.
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nt
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Sarah Palin????
Creeping Critter 23rd Mar 2010
You cannot be serious. She is dumber than a doorknob. Had she done anything for Alaska?

She wouldnt even know what to do.
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...but then I doubt your reading comprehension skills.

As Governor of Alaska she negotiated a multi-million dollar deal with a Canadian company for an oil pipeline to the Continental US when US oil companies started playing politics.

She also came in and cleaned up corruption within her own political party.

But of course the Democrats know all about encouraging business, negotiating foreign deals and cleaning up corruption. (ROFL!)

She had much more experience than even Obama. You just don't like her because she's a threat in 2012, is Conservative, and believes in raising babies instead of killing them.
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Real Americans? That nonsense again?
dColtrane 23rd Mar 2010
Do your homework - the health bill passed was very
much like one promoted by Mitt Romney a year and a
half ago.

Rally around Sarah Palin? Yeah, we need more angry
Bible toting bigots yelling obscenities who think
they're the 'real Americans' like the ones who
hurled epithets, and spat on black members of
congress before the vote last Sunday!

The Democrats would love to see her as the
Republican Presidential nominee in 2012!
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Advertising ignorance
Takalok Updated - 22nd Mar 2010
re: "...HR 3590 is of regulations similar to that of the United Kingdom, in which private (insurance premiums) and public operated programs are available side by side.

If ...

you're going to make the case that private insurance in England hasn't been utterly crushed by NHS, or that it won't be utterly crushed here by Obama care, or that the quality of care in England barely qualifies as medicine, and as a result, all we have to look forward to are skyrocketing moratlity rates on account of Obama care...

... then your grasp of the issues is not nearly as erudite as you portend.
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I've change my mind
bmgoodman 22nd Mar 2010
because your using "erudite" and "portend" automatically validates your statements. Q.E.D.
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I agree, this is the path to armagendon
Linux Geek Updated - 22nd Mar 2010
It is a fact that in UK the health cost are double that in US beacause of the socialized legislation and the brits are dying like flies because of its rationiong or living a decade less than the Americans.
We've got the best system in the world and Obama wants to nationalize and destroy it!
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Oh Gosh People.
greg@... 22nd Mar 2010
Uhh.. Did you do any research on this? Brit's
aren't dying like flies. If you actually
research this you will find that the average
HOMELESS person in the UK lives longer than the
people with the BEST insurance in the US. There
is no rationing. UK health costs are in line
with the rest of the world.. they are bout 1/3
to 1/2 of what we pay in the US.
You listen to the media and watch too much TV.
The fact is, there aren't waits for services,
you don't wait six month or a year for a
surgery. There are MORE docs per capita in the
UK, and they even get paid better (especially
General Practitioners). They specifically get
paid for HEALTH, not for sickness. Do the
research, make up your OWN mind, don't buy in to
the media hype. If you are against it, be
against it for the right reasons, not for FUD.
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What planet are you from?
Fark 22nd Mar 2010
Read dailymail.co.uk for a month and you'll see the HORROR stories about their healthcare.
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3rd rate scandal rag
Economister 22nd Mar 2010
I just looked at their web site. YOU cannot be serious.

If I read that stuff for a whole month, I would seriously have to question my intellect.
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I lived there for years...
Fark 22nd Mar 2010
It's a horror. Dentist appointment - Sure, wait 3 months. WHAT? X-ray needed for a broken hand? Wait three days - don't worry, we'll just re-break it if we need to.

And are you questioning the veracity of their reporting or that they report it at all?
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I have to agree. Our Ex-Pat that go to our
TheBottomLineIsAllThatMatters 23rd Mar 2010
London office - ALL have Dr's and Dentist appointsments setup here in the US when they come home to visit. They said it is very, bad compared to the level of quality and service we have here. Do I know personally - nope - but when you have year after year of ExPats returning home telling the same story - pretty eye opening.
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The tabloid godfather
doug.hanchard@... 22nd Mar 2010
The National Enquirer and Daily Mirror battle
daily for the best scandal headline.

This post was to discuss how data sharing and
HIPPA standards need to be reformed and built
upon to flush out fraud and patient records that
can save valuable resources from being wasted
and abused.

The health care reform act needs to pay
particular attention to these areas if it is to
save the money it anticipates, so it can fund
the other components HR 3590 wants to wishes to
implement and save over the long term.

It won't get there if the insurance companies,
health professionals and institutions fail to
nail down hardened standards, policies and
datasets. As is the norm, these topics will
inevitably be politicized.

Thanks for writing.
Doug
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I am against it ...
Too Old For IT 23rd Mar 2010
I am against it because of the higher costs to business, the higher taxes overall, the forcing of American citizens to buy a commercial product, as well as the forcing of us down the slippery slope of socialism.

Dear Leader and his ilk want a single payer program for one reason and one reason only: The fact that medical insurance companies make a profit galls them and runs against their "government knows best" and "we know better than you" attitude.

This country needs to run back to the principles of the constitutional republic (NOT a democracy) that the United States was founded on, and a laissez-faire economic system that best serves its citizens.
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You're not even making sense
Michael Alan Goff 24th Mar 2010
How have the principles changed from that of a Constitutional Republic since Obama has been in office? The laissez-faire economic system idea has always been a point of contention, though, even in the earlier days. Not even the founding fathers could agree the role of the Government in the economy.
Seems like you're ready to put it back on.

Oh...and don't forget the gasoline and the wooden crosses. You'll need them as well.

DEAR GOD. YOU ARE ONE SICK A$$HOLE.
Means he's a hood wearing klansmen rascist who will be burning crosses in your front yard?

Can you explain this?
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Unfortunately, I have... (nt)
Fark 22nd Mar 2010
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That sad thing is NO ONE knows if it's good OR bad...
TheBottomLineIsAllThatMatters 23rd Mar 2010
heck even the senators and the President do not know what is in there. It's scary what was just passed in that bill...oh well November can't get here quick enough!
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I hear this a lot. What do you mean?
windozefreak 23rd Mar 2010
A solid majority of democrats wanted and like this bill. Most wish it was more powerful. Most of these folks voted for President Obama because he was pushing for Health care.

Now, I guessing, you are probably not a democrat. So, what is waiting for November gets for you?? Just asking.
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Again - the news media - left and right both
TheBottomLineIsAllThatMatters Updated - 23rd Mar 2010
have reported that thing was written by committee and people with agenda's parts were added and removed etc. However, it is so big and encompassing several senators/reps have stated they do not even know what is in the bill, and I believe that. That thing is SO big there is no way those goof balls know what is in there. They were told what was in there as was the President by is "advisors". There are several news outlets (again grain of salt I know) that have read the bill and some of the items they are reporting are leaving big open segments to allow goverment to do whatever, and make this thing even bigger etc.

The other very scary part was they pushed i.e. crammed this through before the break, rather than let it be digested, they were afraid once it gets out the US will not stand for it and it will fail. I have read that several times in different outlets. My newspaper is so liberal I have to lay on my left side just to read it. If it is so darn good for the US why not let it be digested and consumed with facts and examples? Why rush it through? It smells bad, very bad. And Gov't run anything is a joke... I listen to the stories the ExPats from my company tell us that goes on in Europe - it's scary, is that coming here...Obama seems to think that would be better, there is a reason the US is the US and why we are here, he needs to read up on that sometime. Time will tell

As far as November, well a lot of different polls are showing that a lot of the seats in the senate and the house will go back to Republicans control, i.e. Mass? to keep the President in check, that is why November can't get here quick enough.

Not sure if that answered the question or not

BTW - love the name
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I don't know but I will try.
windozefreak 23rd Mar 2010
I saw nothing creditable in his statement that criticises the bill, so, thinking he try and berate the sponsor. There is a try.
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We Brits are NOT dying like flies
peter.moyes@... 23rd Mar 2010
If we are dying like flies in the UK then can Linux Geek please explain
why life expectancy in the UK is HIGHER than in the US? In 2004 the
life expectancy of a Brit Male was 76.8 compared with 75.2 for a US
male.

AND It is NOT a fact that health costs in the UK are double those in
the US - far, far from it. According to an official US report: "US spend
more on health per capita than any other country".

Our system in the UK is imperfect in many ways and I personally would
like to see major changes and improvements but there is consensus,
as is in most European countries, across all political parties and
groups in favour of universal health care.
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source?
bernalillo 24th Mar 2010
glenn beck?
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RE: Obama: Health Care Reform
birumut Updated - 3rd May 2011
Great!! ! thanks for sharing this information to us!
seslisohbet seslichat

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