Privacy groups want Congressional action on behavioral ads

By | September 1, 2009, 9:19pm PDT

Privacy and consumer groups have had enough with Internet companies’ promises of self-regulation and want Congress to pass legislation to protect privacy. The coalition - including the Center for Digital Democracy, Consumers Union, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and U.S. Public Interest Research Group - offered some 13 pages of proposed changes, InfoWeek reports.

Here’s John Simpson, a project director at Consumer Watchdog: “In almost any industry, self-regulation does not work. We’ve seen it in the capital markets and we’ve seen it online.”

For its part Google acknowledges the tensions, although it believes its “interest-based advertising” ultimately provide great value.

“On the one hand, well-tailored ads benefit consumers, advertisers, and publishers alike,” said Nicole Wong, Google’s deputy general counsel, in a blog post in March. “On the other hand, the industry has long struggled with how to deliver relevant ads while respecting users’ privacy.”

The privacy groups say they don’t want to stop such advertising but they think Congress needs to regulate the products.

“The basic idea behind all of these documents is we want consumers to be able to take advantage of all of these technologies without these technologies taking advantage of the consumers,” said Pam Dixon, executive director of the World Privacy Forum. “And right now that balance is not there.”

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RE: Privacy groups want Congressional action on behavioral ads
twaynesdomain 2nd Sep 2009
Unfortunately I agree that the idea of self-regulation is a myth in 99.9% of the situations. The small percentage of sites, like ZDNet, are a great indicator of the possibilities, but ... that is not what the Googles, Microsofts and Yahoos of the world want, not to mention the fly by nights who'd have no existence if they had to do the "right thing". Self-regulation will not/cannot work. A regulating body with teeth is the only method of actually accomplishing anything.
As much as I abhor government intevention (have they EVER intervened in any positive way?) I've come to the same conclusion as many others who have been saying it won't work for a very long time.
OTOH I'm afraid that with intervention, I'll be seeing billions spent on arresting and punishing Aunt Tillies of the world and nothing spent on pulling down the actual criminals with their full time, privately owned and outside network of zombies that support them.
A great examply of how self-regulation won't work is the fact that, as has been known for years, if EVERY ISP insisted on valid, FQ and verified Header lines of emails for instance, spam would take a big nose-dive almost overnight. Also, EVERY mail client in existance should be capable of banning from the Inbox entire countries (.cn, .br, .tw. .jp, etc. etc.) if the user so wished. AFAIK that capability doesn't exist in a single mail client; it requires a third party app and some knowledge of black/block list usage to accomplish it.
Just those two implementation, IMO, would go a very long ways to cutting down on spam whether it originates here or overseas from either coast. Many people think spam from China, say, originates in China, but that's not true. It often originates right here in the US but is routed thru China because they have plenty of servers that are either old, rogue or exist for the purpose servers. I don't mean to pick on China because they are far from the only ones with that same record. With an address list and a few dollars, you too could spam the world from, say, Brazil, with the right contacts, which are very easy to make.
The ONLY countries in the world AFAIK who have actually made a dent in spam via government influence is Australia and New Zealand. You'll see very little spam from OZ and when you do see it, chances are the OZ reference is a forgery. If they can do it, WE can do it here on North America. It's NOT rocket science, by any means; it's simply enforcing the rules, most of which already exist.

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privacychooser 2nd Sep 2009
Here's an example of the kind of enhanced
disclosure that will help consumers be more
comfortable with behavioral targeting: at this
page you can see the network privacy profile
for zdnet.com, including which networks are
present, excerpts from their privacy policies
and links to opt-out.

http://www.privacychoice.net/zdnet.com

These things are not difficult to do. If the
industry (including folks who make browsers and
set privacy defaults) would actually get
focused, everyone would feel more comfortable.
Better than the prospect of government
regulation, if you ask me.
Unfortunately I agree that the idea of self-regulation is a myth in 99.9% of the situations. The small percentage of sites, like ZDNet, are a great indicator of the possibilities, but ... that is not what the Googles, Microsofts and Yahoos of the world want, not to mention the fly by nights who'd have no existence if they had to do the "right thing". Self-regulation will not/cannot work. A regulating body with teeth is the only method of actually accomplishing anything.
As much as I abhor government intevention (have they EVER intervened in any positive way?) I've come to the same conclusion as many others who have been saying it won't work for a very long time.
OTOH I'm afraid that with intervention, I'll be seeing billions spent on arresting and punishing Aunt Tillies of the world and nothing spent on pulling down the actual criminals with their full time, privately owned and outside network of zombies that support them.
A great examply of how self-regulation won't work is the fact that, as has been known for years, if EVERY ISP insisted on valid, FQ and verified Header lines of emails for instance, spam would take a big nose-dive almost overnight. Also, EVERY mail client in existance should be capable of banning from the Inbox entire countries (.cn, .br, .tw. .jp, etc. etc.) if the user so wished. AFAIK that capability doesn't exist in a single mail client; it requires a third party app and some knowledge of black/block list usage to accomplish it.
Just those two implementation, IMO, would go a very long ways to cutting down on spam whether it originates here or overseas from either coast. Many people think spam from China, say, originates in China, but that's not true. It often originates right here in the US but is routed thru China because they have plenty of servers that are either old, rogue or exist for the purpose servers. I don't mean to pick on China because they are far from the only ones with that same record. With an address list and a few dollars, you too could spam the world from, say, Brazil, with the right contacts, which are very easy to make.
The ONLY countries in the world AFAIK who have actually made a dent in spam via government influence is Australia and New Zealand. You'll see very little spam from OZ and when you do see it, chances are the OZ reference is a forgery. If they can do it, WE can do it here on North America. It's NOT rocket science, by any means; it's simply enforcing the rules, most of which already exist.

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