RIAA/ISP deal on filesharing suggests content deals in the offing

By | December 22, 2008, 10:22am PST

Summary: ISPs want to be portals. Record labels want them to police users’ file-sharing. What do the big ISPs get out of providing this service? Licensing deals to follow.

In the aftermath of the RIAA’s promise to put the era of mass lawsuits behind it, Ars Technica has an interview with Cary Sherman, president of the recording association. Seems there’s still plenty to be “worked out” in the RIAA’s plans to have ISPs warn and punish file-sharers. A few snippets:

  • Q: When will the system actually be in place and start working? Has that been determined yet? A: It has not.
  • Q: Can you say anything about what ISPs are involved? A: No.
  • All the parties would want comfort that the technology is accurate and reliable, because nobody is interested in false positives. And we’ll also need a mechanism so that somebody who claims that he or she was improperly identified would have an opportunity to be heard and have the question resolved. All of those things need to be worked out.
  • Q: How will you deal with ISPs that choose not to cooperate? Will they be notified about subscribers who share files? Will you proceed with lawsuits?

    That’s an issue we hope not to have to address. … This is entirely voluntary and I think it’s made possible because the business interests of the industries are converging. There was a time five years ago when ISPs were solely focused on increasing their broadband penetration, and cutting back on piracy was not part of their business interest. Five years later, they’re in a very different place. They want to be portals in their own right, they want to offer their subscribers great content; it’s something that distinguishes one from another. They’re looking at themselves as more than the dumb pipes that they were five years ago, and I think that opens up partnerships that didn’t exist before.

So, there are real concerns about the legitimacy of the process, what “due process” will be afforded to people who claim a false positive or a right to use the content. Given the industry’s aggressiveness about, for instance, filing DMCA takedown notices on videos that fairly use copyrighted material, there should be some sort of ombudsman role within the ISP. Perhaps a consumer watchdog agency should be given access to these records to review them for mistakes or abuses.

The talk about ISPs as portals suggests that there are some secondary deals with the music industry in terms of licensing music downloads to their users. I can imagine that every ISP would like to get a piece of the iTunes action, and I know the industry would like to break Apple’s stranglehold on the online music business. The deals could be a precursor to some sort of mandatory licensing program. Far better than banishing people from the Internet would be simply assessing them a use fee based on how many files were downloaded/distributed.

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RE: RIAA/ISP deal on filesharing suggests content deals in the offing
ZenaPrincess 22nd Dec 2008
It's bull. You can find and listen to music everywhere on the web these days. These people are smoking crack.
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This Sounds Bad
backpacker299 22nd Dec 2008
As someone who does not download content illegal, this worries me. How do they plan to distinguish content as bit torrent traffic or streaming internet radio, for example. Beyond that, how do you know what bit torrent traffic if illegal? Some of it isn't. Also, I don't like the sound of my ISP punishing me for doing something that doesn't violate the ISP directly.

I have a feeling this is going to get caught up in court for a while.
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They're getting desperate
hasta la Vista, bah-bie 22nd Dec 2008
I guess going after small fry like college students and people on limited incomes isn't enough for the Beverly Hills fat cats & cokeheads who don't even pay most of their artists the proper compensation that's due.
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Got that right!...
surfyogi 22nd Dec 2008
Let's just call a spade shall we?

Cartels.
Middlemen schisters.
Price fixers.
Good ol boy network...

Sorry guys, Jewish mafia.

They give my lovely and totally cool Jew friends a really bad name for their heritage.

Reminds me of an artical I saw about a pro-bono lawyer now famous for defending home repossessions and forclosures. She said it's like decending in to the pit of the devil when you deal with the lenders and mortage companies; so completely corrupted by their money and power they have no concept of the pain they are dispensing and the harm they've done innocent, if not very bright people buying homes at 12% interest on adjustable loans.
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Jews?
rkoman@... 22nd Dec 2008
Um, what are you talking about, Jewish mafia? You're referring to Hollywood? But is that necessary? And this references to your "cool Jewish friends" eerily sounds like "some of my best friends ..." I don't think I'm particularly sensitive, but I really don't get the point of making religious stereotypes here.
This should put ISP's on notice to stay clear of being content suppliers. This will lead to censorship. Which is maybe what they really want.
Data caps are already a form of censorship. But as new software and technology allows P2P to work just fine. This is already proving that data cap practice to be bad customer service. And this is an invasion of privacy.
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Dangerous antidemocratic precedent
news_reader 22nd Dec 2008
This Pandora?s BOX has inside all "victims" of copyright protection laws (outdated due to absolute freedom of moving bits in internet) violations lined up with the same request to ISP to disconnect person, business, internet access point or other institution from internet. Other words to say this is a conflict of interests between freedom? Internet network is built on, and total control over citizens and their information and entertainment content, used in less-democratic countries. Assuming we love freedom and our government is really ?for the people..? at the end of day big entertainment cartel will be forced to discover new ways of making money or go bankrupt and leave space to be taken by thousands of new innovative entrepreneurs. Big business should stop using corruption as tool to fix their outdated business formula.
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Government for the People?
mburton325 22nd Dec 2008
Who do you think gave the RIAA, SIAA and multitude of others the DMCA to begin with? Our Government is for the money that is put in their pockets by the lobbiest of for these orginizations. The only way to stop this is for normal every day Americans to stand up and say no more, but since that isn't going to happen but by a select few, it is not going to change.
I don't feel there's a thing in this World wrong with file sharing.Or should i say song sharing.All misdeeds coming to light now.All these companies failing etc.Because they was foolish.And some way all this coming down to we the customers.Invasion of privacy is not right.Many i know is thinking about dialup again because of the high cost of broadband.And most wanting to give up cable and just use the DTV box.All because of the high cost.So those of us that enjoys broadband and cable now has to be threaten is not right.I dont feel we should download movies.But a couple of songs is fine.Long as we not in it to sell the contents we download.
ON THE FACE OF IT, this could be a good thing. Content freely available from numerous sources, all in competition, free market capitalism at it's best right?

Tracks down to something reasonable, $.25? and who cares that you have to pay a buck to watch a movie, 8 weeks after it's out of the theaters.. but that's not what this is about I'm sad to say.

Get ready for big brother ISPs to sniff all your packets and send you letters (email) when you are detected downloading that torrent of the latest CAM version of MILK. Or maybe they just know you are using TORENT protocols and they make that illegal on their share of the net. I

N THE CASE of ATT, or COMCAST, that would be a pretty significant share of the net I would assume.

Not much different than working for a government contractor as an employee, except you never get to go home and do what you like, the BBro Net is coming to a major ISP near you, creating a new market for DARKNET suppliers and a whole new level of encryption layers, DRM defeaters, cheap unsniffed access via 5G wireless, and on and on and on.

I'm guessing this is going to get very messy before it gets better.
It's bull. You can find and listen to music everywhere on the web these days. These people are smoking crack.

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