A wall's being built along the northern border of the U.S.

By | May 28, 2008, 7:33pm PDT

Summary: NOAA map of the Great Lakes Basin. And this isn’t a wall promulgated by Homeland Security. It’s not about people trying to get into the U.S. No this wall is aimed at keeping some states from getting resources that other states have. We’re talking here about various “United States” states. It’s not a [...]

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NOAA map of the Great Lakes Basin.

And this isn’t a wall promulgated by Homeland Security. It’s not about people trying to get into the U.S. No this wall is aimed at keeping some states from getting resources that other states have. We’re talking here about various “United States” states.

It’s not a physical wall that’s being erected around the Great Lakes, but it could be impenetrable. It’s a binding agreement on the use and exportation of water from the Great Lakes Basin. Seems the states of that region are suspicious more arid states, say in the Great Plains and the Southwest, might make a play for Great Lakes water. Just last year the Southeast, which normally has plenty of water and humidity to match, had severe drought in some areas.

Wisconsin recently became the fifth state to ratify this water pact. The agreement needs the ratification of three more states: Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Then it needs federal approval to go into effect. It would ban any long-distance diversion of Great Lakes Basin water and lays out goals for sustainable water use by the states on the lakes. No pipeline to Vegas, Phoenix or Dallas.

There’s another country along the lakes and soCanadian media is watching this whole effort. And their own environmental minister is calling for conservation of the lakes’ water.

GREAT LAKES ARE GREAT SUPPLY OF WATER.

It’s been estimated that one-fifth of all fresh water on the earth is contained within the Great Lakes and St.Lawrence Seaway that drains them to the Atlantic. The U.S. Geological Survey tracks the fluctuation of the lakes, four of which are near historical low levels right now. Last year Lake Superior at one time was at its lowest level in 77 years. Then it began to refill. However, the lake levels are always changing, never stable. Many “lakeshore” buildings and resorts now find themselves far from water. Fears of dry lake beds along the Milwaukee and Chicago waterfronts are part of what’s sparked the current Great Lakes compact. NOAA also tracks water use and loss in the Great Lakes Basin.

I recently blogged about American and Canadian research and information-sharing around the Great Lakes. If the Great Lakes compact goes into effect we can expect other areas to follow suit and some of the heavily populated and arid states may start to look around for insured supplies. California, Nevada, Texas, Arizona, Colorado.

The water issues will not dissolve, but they may precipitate some serious political moves. And they will encourage cleantech aimed at water re-use, recycling and purification. Australia’s planning a solar-powered desalination plant. Israel uses desalination on a relatively large scale already.

AND THAT’S NOT ALL…

Chicago’s rightfully known as the “Windy City.” So here’s a summary of the first big conflab to look at using the considerable wind resources of the Great Lakes region.

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The water crisis has been building for 30 years
jorjitop 29th May 2008
It has been known for a long time (see the movie Chinatown) that the states that depend on the Colorado river basin could suffer from a major water shortage. In the seventies there were discussions that it could lead to a war with Canada as the US tried to force the diversion of rivers to the south. Despite this, the overbuilding has continued in Arizona and Nevada.

When, not if, the water crisis becomes severe, it will not be a question of destroying one ecosystem to support the greed in those southern states. If you build and live in these regions, you must suffer the consequences. Just like those who get flooded regularly because they built houses on flood plains beside rivers. Or those in California who are betting there won't be a big earthquake like they had in China. Or, those in New Orleans that did not build up the dikes 50 years ago.

One cannot help someone from their stupidity.
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An odd sentence
AllKnowingAllSeeing 28th May 2008
there?s dryer nekighbrs
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odd sentence has been repaired
atowhee 28th May 2008
already
We, here in Florida, are concerned with the vast interest by northerners who continually come here and "steal" our sunshine. We also need a "wall" to prevent further abuse of this precious resource that natively belongs to the "Sunshine State".

Come on people. If some city is in trouble and needs water how, in good conscience can anyone place their 'lake front property" interest in front of the others needs for survival?

This is America and we're all in it together, start acting like we're brothers and not enemies or we'll all be alone.
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Welcome to the
Linux User 147560 29th May 2008
"It's all about me and f*ck you!" Generation of America. Brought to you by all the major corporate ads telling you just how YOU are the MOST important thing over the greater good of the country! devil
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Greater good of the country
none none 29th May 2008
You mean the good of Arizona developers who would build even more homes - in the desert - if they knew they could drain the Great Lakes to fill the in-ground pools.

If there's no water there maybe they shouldn't be throwing up subdivisions.









happy
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"Sunshine State"
TTGIT Guy 29th May 2008
Your illustrative comparison is meaningless; it "holds no water"....
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Florida growth issues
shawn_dude 29th May 2008
Here in Tampa we are asked to conserve water and not water our lawns more than twice per week.

Reason: not enough water for all the existing homes and businesses.

Solution: build more homes in the suburbs.

WTF?!

Maybe they can double the size of New Tampa if they can drain Lake Superior.
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hmm...is that double speak?
Linux Geek 29th May 2008
If some city is in trouble and needs water how, in good conscience can anyone place their 'lake front property" interest in front of the others needs for survival?
Nobody died yet of thirst because of the water shortage...Not even cut on shower and hygine.

This is America and we're all in it together, start acting like we're brothers and not enemies or we'll all be alone.
Broters....eh?
Brothers when sothern states impose resort and hotel fees on those visiting their great sunny state?
Brothers when they won't foot part of the heating bill for the folks living in the north?
What goes arround comes arround!
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What????
Hallowed are the Ori 29th May 2008
Brothers when they won't foot part of the heating bill for the folks living in the north?

What are you talking about?
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Linux User 147560 29th May 2008
Reminds be of Bill the Cat from Opus... devil
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It has been known for a long time (see the movie Chinatown) that the states that depend on the Colorado river basin could suffer from a major water shortage. In the seventies there were discussions that it could lead to a war with Canada as the US tried to force the diversion of rivers to the south. Despite this, the overbuilding has continued in Arizona and Nevada.

When, not if, the water crisis becomes severe, it will not be a question of destroying one ecosystem to support the greed in those southern states. If you build and live in these regions, you must suffer the consequences. Just like those who get flooded regularly because they built houses on flood plains beside rivers. Or those in California who are betting there won't be a big earthquake like they had in China. Or, those in New Orleans that did not build up the dikes 50 years ago.

One cannot help someone from their stupidity.
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Good!
heres_johnny 29th May 2008
I live in Michigan. I have to deal with the crappy winters, and for the most part, I'm able to do that. I have to deal with the crappy economy, and I do. Why? Because of land and water. We want the Great Lakes to stay that way because they are a natural resource. It's our (and by our, I mean the Great Lakes states and the bordering Canadian provinces) responsibility to care for and maintain them. I was just as irritated by this story as I was by Ice Mountain being allowed to draw water from the lakes, bottle it, and sell it at a profit.

Developers in the Southwest have been selling a white picket fence dream in the desert for years, and morons have been buying. Hello! You live in the desert, and you wonder why you don't have enough water to keep your lawn perfectly green? The Great Lakes states are under no obligation to ruin our own environment to save you from the foreseeable consequences of your own bad decisions. This isn't a 'me, me, me' issue; this is a 'let's not be stupid' issue.
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bad behavior on both parts
Linux Geek 29th May 2008
Building water intensive communities in the desert is pretty dumb.
Putting artificial bariers on the the water is dumb too.
The Lake states can very well create some sort of free market for the water and trade it like a commodity. Think an OPEC like cartel that's trading water instead of oil.
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To paraphrase Agent Smith
Hallowed are the Ori 29th May 2008
Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but humans do not. Humans move to an area and multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way they can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.

As long as growth is unchecked, these problems are only going to get worse and worse.
We are far more dangerous to ourselves than any band of terrorists could ever be

Issues we must deal with, or they will destroy us:

THE MYTH OF CONSTANT ECONOMIC GROWTH
THE MYTH THAT TECH CAN SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM WE CREATE BY BEING WASTEFUL
CONSERVATION AND RECYCLING OF RESOURCES
THE MYTH THAT AMERICANS HAVE AN INALIENABLE RIGHT TO THE HIGHEST STANDARD OF LIVING ON EARTH
IGNORING THE NATURAL ARIDITY OF HALF THE NATION...GOLF COURSES IN VEGAS?
BEING UNPREPARED FOR SOME LIKELY CHANGES IN CLIMATE AND RAINFALL
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Linux User 147560 29th May 2008
Your points while valid and of great concern, only fall upon deafened ears and blinded eyes.

Only a small band seems to see these issues and the problems they will and are bringing on us. But we are to disjointed and unable to present a solid front against the massive media machine that is driven by ignorance that is fueled by greed.

Keep at it though... maybe when things really start getting rough and the reality of our self created morass of shyte dawns upon the masses... then we can stand up and take charge, until then we lack the power to overcome greed. devil

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