Asia-Pacific leaders: no final deal in Copenhagen

By | November 16, 2009, 4:51am PST

Summary: Copenhagen pre-meeting not expected to help reach Copenhagen agreement.

Here’s the word from the Singapore meeting of Asia-Pacific leaders which includes Japan and the U.S. There’ll be plenty of global warming talk at the Copehagen talks beginning December 7. There will be no binding deal reached. That situation will be reinforced when President Obama meets with China’s President Hu.

Meanwhile, Copehagen’s hosting a pre-meeting meeting. Forty major countries have sent their environmental ministers or lead negotiators. Think of the carbon footprint of all those jets. Couldn’t they do a Skype conference call?

This week’s pre-meeting meetings are closed to the media in Copenhagen, but there’ll likely be plenty of publicity by those trying to pressure others to do what they want. As you might expect, some Europeans are reporting that the delaying tactics leading up to Copenhagen and no agreement…why that’s due to the fact that the U.S. Senate has not passed a climate and energy bill.

There is a distinct gulf between what rich nations and poor nations are looking for. As often is the case, the money part of any agreement is proving to be the toughest part. Who pays whom to stop polluting the one atmosphere we have?

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RE: Asia-Pacific leaders: no final deal in Copenhagen
psquare11 18th Nov 2009
Quick! Somebody tell the U.S. Senate that Copenhagen is a non-starter... Maybe then they will drop the silly crap and tax scheme!
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The end of US freedoms
linux_kernel 16th Nov 2009
Welcome to the new world where you are going to
be taxed and wealth transferred to other countries.

2010 Vote them out.

2012 Vote him out.
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Here Harry, take this tylenol.
CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 16th Nov 2009
You're way too excited.
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Here's some better news
vikingnyc@... 16th Nov 2009
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Harry is such a coward that he doesn't dare to discuss this.
CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 16th Nov 2009
Naaahh - he would rather continue to suck the nipples of his gaia-propaganda sites.

Harry, have you knelt for your tree yet today?

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Even when he comes in
ITLeader 16th Nov 2009
you don't have anything valuable to say. FAIL.
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The "even if" does the trick.
CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 16th Nov 2009
nt
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That's not "even if" it's "even when"
ITLeader 16th Nov 2009
For all your complaining, you still don't say anything.
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bad language, ugly sentiments, no content
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Oh, THAT Marc Morano
Reality-based Updated - 16th Nov 2009
Marc Morano (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Marc_Morano) has very limited credibility, but let's look at this anyway:

Dr. Abdussamatov says global warming is over and "already there are signs of the future deep temperature drop":
http://www.desmogblog.com/russian-warming-denier-blinded-by-sunspots
http://www.desmogblog.com/solar-forcing-and-global-warming-here-we-go-again

NASA and NOAA beg to differ:
http://climateprogress.org/2009/11/16/nasa-noaa-hottest-june-to-october-on-record/

Should the sun get the blame?
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/04/29/is-global-warming-solar-induced/
http://www.youtube.com/user/greenman3610#p/u/3/BSXgiml5UwM
http://www.youtube.com/user/greenman3610#p/u/20/_Sf_UIQYc20

Dr. Abdussamatov is probably correct that we should fear a deep temperature drop - in thousands of years, when the Milankovitch cycle causes it, and all the oil is used up.

When you present "evidence" that is easily refuted, you waste our time. Lest you be like the boy who cried "Wolf!" too many times, please try better next time.
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Not this stupidity again!
adornoe@... Updated - 16th Nov 2009
There is a distinct gulf between what rich nations and poor nations are looking for.

Define rich.

Which countries are the rich ones and which are the poor? In today's world, where all countries are going through a deep recession, there are no longer any rich countries. The U.S. may still seem to be rich in comparison to many of the others, but the government and the people are not feeling rich at all these days. If cap-and-trade and "climate change" treaties were a bad idea during the good times, they are even worse ideas during a major world-wide recession.

In the U.S., with the official unemployment rate at 10.2 and the real unemployment rate at about 18%, and many businesses in deep financial stress, there is nobody clamoring for big national and international initiatives/programs that will just make everybody even more poor.

The global warming idiocy has gotten out of hand, and the only people calling for action are those that want bigger government control over our lives. Kyoto and any Copenhagen accord are about the transferring of wealth from what used to be the "rich nations" to the poorer ones. Well, the rich nations are no longer rich and the so-called "poor nations" should start taking care of themselves and stop hoping for the confiscated money from the formerly rich nations. The international transfer of money from the rich to the poor is nothing more than international socialism. The people trying to perpetrate this massive "global warming" fraud on the world and especially against the U.S., should all be arrested and prosecuted and put in prison for the rest of their lives. I would start with Al Gore, the number one shyster in the whole scheme and who could possibly become the first "carbon" billionaire if cap-and-trade is passed and CO2 trading becomes an international industry.

As often is the case, the money part of any agreement is proving to be the toughest part.

Well, DUH!

Any endeavor, whether government or private industry, does require funding. But, double "DUH!", because in the global recession, funding will be even harder to find.

Who pays whom to stop polluting the one atmosphere we have?

Pollution is one thing, but global warming is nothing but a hoax and a scheme for creating larger government and for administration of the transfer of wealth from rich to poor.

The people behind the hoax are evil, but they're also stupid and idiots and morons. But, even more stupid would be the citizenry if they allow the idiots to pass the idiotic global warming legislation which will essentially require that the people surrender whatever wealth they had to international confiscation.
No deal in Copenhagen? That's a good thing!
Quick! Somebody tell the U.S. Senate that Copenhagen is a non-starter... Maybe then they will drop the silly crap and tax scheme!

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