Atmopshere Hot But Not Hotter; Politics: Very Much Hotter
Summary: Climate research and the battles that ensue.
In recent years the amount of research on the earth’s climate has multiplied. Slowly, pieces of the puzzle are being added. Thanks in great part to digital technology and satellites we have much more data than anyone in 1960 could have imagined possible. But the credibility battles grow bigger as more and more interest groups from science labs to company board rooms get involved.
A study just published indicates that earlier estimates of the carbon feedback loop were overblown. The self-reinforcing effects of the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide are not likely to be as great as estimates as recent as 2008.
Now there’s research on global warming that finds a major role being played by water vapor in the upper atmosphere. The past decade has been the hottest on record. But during this past decade the warming trend has not been continuous. This new research says decreasing water vapor in the atmosphere has allowed some of the heat to escape. Water vapor itself is a greenhouse gas and helps trap heat so decreased water in the air lowers heat retention.
This study does not look at surface humidity but actually tracks water vapor at an altitude of ten miles where it has an even greater effect on the heat held in the atmosphere. Less water up there means less heat down here where most of us live.
Courtesy: NOAA.
Harsh winter weather is being used as example of global warming effects. Meanwhile one poll shows fewer Americans now believe climate change is happening. The connection between colder winter and climate change is way too subtle, and many Americans are now doubting any "expert" from climatologist to broker. The sinking popularity of global warming as a problem means it is far less likely that Congress will do anything. But it also means the EPA will be at the center of the political firestorm when and if it moves on greenhouse gas emissions from U.S. industry.
UN'S IPCC IS UNDER ASSAULT
Meanwhile the IPCC is having a hard time. Since its 2007 Nobel Prize and its continued efforts to get international action on global warming, the IPCC's credibility being assailed on many fronts. Admitting a factual error in their most recent detailed report has only fueled efforts to find further errors in that report.
The IPCC's opponents sense blood in the earth's warmer waters. The IPCC is now accused of using biased numbers on rain forest destruction by climate change. Expect all-out attempts to discredit the IPCC and its findings to continue and to get global publicity. This political fight involves billions of dollars of monthly income for countries like Russia and Saudi Arabia plus huge sectors of the global economy. We may find that Copenhagen was the final big effort by the IPCC which is could become politically radioactive and practically ineffectual. Some could say it's already proved itself untenable at Copenhagen where the U.S. brokered the only "deal."
All this means that cleantech companies need to find ways to sell their products and services as money-savers as more and more people come to doubt the earth's livability is actually at stake. ROI will be king in the realm of greentech as these research wars grind facts into soundbites and the mind numbs.
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Talkback
Less hysterical these days. Good, Harry.
Lesson: don't let your political views override true science.
Your Gore-wanker-boys have been exposed as liars. :)
Agreed TOTALLY
Poor Harry
findings to continue and to get global publicity. "
The IPCC has discredit itself, all the sceptics are doing is
exposing it's lies.
"This political fight involves billions of dollars of monthly
income for countries like Russia and Saudi Arabia plus
huge sectors of the global economy."
Clearly no money goes to the alarmists;-) Provable AGW
grants are a order of magnitude higher than Harry's
unsubstantiated slur.
"... more people come to doubt the earth?s livability is
actually at stake."
Harry goes for the king of the alarmists title. What
evidence do you have that the Earth will become unliveable
due to AGW?
Harry missed the news that the CRU has been found to
have broken the law regarding FOI in the UK (surprised):
"The University of East Anglia flouted Freedom of
Information regulations in its handling of requests for data
from climate sceptics, according to the government body
that administers the act."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/27/uea
-hacked-climate-emails-foi
From a source Harry will find of his colour.
The IPCC should be disbanded
I'm all for increasing funds to the Energy department to help fund pursuits of viable alternate forms of energy. But steps must be taken against the unprecedented politicizing and corrupting of scientfic research. AGW was ugly! Everywhere you looked, reaserchers played musical chairs with climate data. I.e. they cherry picked and manipulated climate data to prop up the ocurrence of AGW. E.g. <a href=http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-13603-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=73333&messageID=1418799>they pointed to temperature change over time in urban areas as evidence of AGW, when temperature change over time in sparsely populated areas was virtually non-existent</a>.
Also I really believe Al Gore and others should be sued for fraud, because their actions have been dispicable throughout all of this, as they made millions from this scam. If the balloon boy's dad had to go to jail for merely (albeit wrecklessly) seeking attention in the media, how much more does Al Gore et al need be brought to justice, for almost sending world economies into chaos, and putting American's and the world's nations' individual liberties at risk.
We still need energy independance in the US
Also, there is no doubt that our technology has an effect on the environment. We are producing a lot of unnatural stuff and we are dumping it on this planet, there will be an effect. The only thing in question is what will that effect be?
I love it
Next thing you know, Harry will discover that recent paper by those German physicists proving that current AGW theories completely violate the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics.
He might also find
Citations for both papers, please? (nt)
Here you go
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0707/0707.1161v4.pdf
Refutation:
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0802/0802.4324v1.pdf
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