Microsoft CRM to Salesforce.com: It's Lunchtime

By | July 10, 2007, 10:35am PDT

Microsoft unveiled pricing at its Worldwide Partner Conference today for its on-demand CRM offering, and in the process sent an absolutely clear message that, from now on, basic on-demand CRM is all about price.

With a range of offerings priced from $44 per user per month to $59 per user per month for a “professional” version, Microsoft has set the bar significantly lower for its CRM on-demand package than market-leader Salesforce.com, which “starts” its professional pricing at $65 per user per month. Do the math, that’s a lot of Benioff-bucks that Microsoft expects to head to Redmond instead.

Of course, Salesforce.com is being coy, telling Reuters that the battle won’t be on price alone. But what else is there in a commodity market but price? Sure, there’s more to Salesforce.com than mere commodity functionality — like all those must-have add-ons that are enriching AppExchange partners and the customers who are using them? I’m still having trouble finding that rich core of AppExchange apps that are driving new sales of Salesforce.com: AppExchange is still not big enough and important enough to provide Benioff any appreciable cover now that Microsoft is playing low-ball with on-demand CRM. It’s for this and other reasons that I think Salesforce.com is the next Siebel.

Meanwhile, Microsoft has a rather interesting value-prop for the mid-market companies that — despite Benioff’s best efforts — still make up the core of Salesforce.com’s customer base. Take CRM on-demand from Microsoft, and Microsoft will provide integration to a pretty good set of back office ERP systems — Dynamics AX, GP, and NAV, to be precise. That deep integration is what will truly make long-term, stable customers for Microsoft, and Salesforce.com’s inability to offer a similar back-office suite makes its offering look even weaker.

Finally, there’s the Microsoft partner model to contend with: Microsoft is offering a very sweet 10 percent margin to its CRM on-demand partners, which pretty much guarantees that they being trying to be in every deal they can find. That new, and potentially enormous, competitive front is going to further drive up Salesforce.com’s already high cost of sales and further complicate Salesforce.com’s profitability picture. Up until now, Salesforce.com has had really no legitimate competition. Now they have to go toe-to-toe with the ultimate competitor, Microsoft, and it ain’t going to be pretty.

And this is hardly the only bad news that Salesforce.com is facing. Don’t think that SAP and Oracle are just sitting on the sidelines watching. 2007 will end with more big news in on-demand CRM, and none of it will be good for Salesforce.com. With today’s and other announcements to come, I think 2008 promises to be the real year of on-demand CRM: It’s Salesforce.com’s market to lose, and, unless something changes dramatically in their favor, lose it they will.

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elmaldonado 2nd Aug 2007
I do wonder if and when that will happen (Google buying SF.) I think it makes a lot of sense. They could integrate their MS Office like apps (plus Gmail) to the Salesforce tools. So let's hope that happens and soon. Especially if they do it, JUST before the official launch of Titan. Talk about taking the wind off of their sails. happy
did not move any significant number of customers from RedHat Enterprise Linux, even with substantial discounts. You will find the same thing here, especially since Microsoft has a HUGE trust problem. It will be almost impossible for MS to sign any existing Salesforce.com customers. They will be luck to get anything other than entrenched MS only customers.

Do not forget, the single biggest savings is getting rid of you internal servers and going with a hosted application. The additional savings that MS offers are not significant enough. People will go with the proven leader.

And, the only remaining mystery is why Google has not purchased Salesforce???
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elmaldonado 2nd Aug 2007
I do wonder if and when that will happen (Google buying SF.) I think it makes a lot of sense. They could integrate their MS Office like apps (plus Gmail) to the Salesforce tools. So let's hope that happens and soon. Especially if they do it, JUST before the official launch of Titan. Talk about taking the wind off of their sails. happy
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Linux_4u! 10th Jul 2007
Open Source version SugarCRM. It is GREAT. And this is in a ALL WINDOWS shop I do part time programming in ...

Me thinks BOTH are going to run into some serious competition from SugarCRM ...
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patrick.vanrinsvelt@... 11th Jul 2007
We are in the process of investigating CRMs and these 2 are in the hunt along with OS SugarCRM. For us as a mid sized company functionality in each of these is comaprable and almost a wash. Where the real work comes is in the interoperability with other back office apps as well as legacy systems.
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So how much Joshua?
elmaldonado 2nd Aug 2007
Seems to me that you have gotten some good payouts by some Redmond based organizations. Adding a little bit of FUD goes a long way to those companies on the fence of what to buy. Good job, but I believe Salesforce has a couple of things up their sleeves. I doubt you know something they don't already!

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