@Webbywarehouse misguidedly tells us...
PDF and Flash can both be displayed with non-adobe programs.
Uh...like...doh...
Didn't I just say that up above?
For example, SkyFire on WM6 will display Flash. Adobe did not create the executable for this.
So what. They still created the Flash for it. That doesn't make them any less involved unless Adobe is going open source and renouncing all financial & legal claims to it's code.
Numerous software applications can generate (and display and read and parse) Flash code and Action Script.
Again, so what. Why don't you answer Ian's original question instead of whining about the EU.
Hence Flash is a "defacto standard" as much as PDF is.
Again, so what. How does that invalidate what I said above. Should I quote it again for you since you like to create more red-herrings here?
Don't like the JPG example, then how about GIF?
But you originally said JPG, now didn't you. The largest, most common graphics format out there. Now you decide to come up with something else because you know I was right concerning JPGs.
Are you familiar with the patent that was in place until a few years ago that prevented open source solutions such as Image Magick from outputting GIF format unless a royalty was paid.
That was a few years ago. 2003 as a matter of fact. Now the GIF format is as freely used as JPGs. Your point?
Oh that's right, there isn't one.
I provide this example to illustrate a parallel, maybe, just maybe your gray matter can connect the two dots. Here's hoping.
No, you came up with something lame, got caught saying it, so now you're backtracking, covering your a$$ with all these red herrings.
The fact is you don't really care about that 9% of consumers out there who you patronizingly feel are being victimized by Apple. You only care about your vendetta against them. Or is it paid shilling for the other side? If that's the case, I don't think you're going to generate too many of those 9% customers for M$ with all your incessant whining here.
Like I said before, don't like 'em, don't buy 'em. That simple.