Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

Summary: Whether you're pro these scanners or not (and putting the potential health risks aside), the idea that images can be stored on them for later viewing is disturbing. If the mechanism is there to save an image, then it'll be used, and even if that mechanism doesn't exist, it's not hard to record an image that's displayed on a screen using a camera.

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This is very shocking stuff:

At the heart of the controversy over "body scanners" is a promise: The images of our naked bodies will never be public. U.S. Marshals in a Florida Federal courthouse saved 35,000 images on their scanner. These are those images.

A Gizmodo investigation has revealed 100 of the photographs saved by the Gen 2 millimeter wave scanner from Brijot Imaging Systems, Inc., obtained by a FOIA request after it was recently revealed that U.S. Marshals operating the machine in the Orlando, Florida courthouse had improperly-perhaps illegally-saved images of the scans of public servants and private citizens.

So much for not being able to store, print, transmit or save the image. If you believe that, you'll believe anything ... idiots.

Here's an example of the images stored:

Note: Notice in the above image how the scanner manages to scan the guy in the background - how much energy are these scanners giving off?

it's worth noting that the gen-2 millimeter wave scanner doesn't output as detailed an image of the human body as the scanners currently in used at airports. For comparison, the image below shows the sort of output from a typical airport scanner.

Whether you're pro these scanners or not (and putting the potential health risks aside), the idea that images can be stored on them for later viewing is disturbing. If the mechanism is there to save an image, then it'll be used, and even if that mechanism doesn't exist, it's not hard to record an image that's displayed on a screen using a camera.

Additional thoughts on the TSA's screening process on Lawgarithms by my colleague Denise Howell.

How happy are you to use these scanners? What about your significant other? Children?

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  • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

    The image on the left is OBVIOUSLY different from the other two on the right. Where is the journalistic integrity? What's the point of those images? Clearly they cannot prove that what we see in the two images on the right are a direct result of the person on the left being scanned.
    pmas1998@...
    • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

      @pmas1998@... yeah, that image is "illustrative" in that the photo and the scan weren't done at the same time. Still, you can tell that the clothing is the same (notice the wrinking of the jeans).

      That said, if a TSA agent couldn't spot that gun down the back of the woman's jeans then shesh ...
      Adrian Kingsley-Hughes
      • It's not the power their giving off

        it the level of power they can detect.
        A radio telescope doesn't give off any power, yet it detects the amount of radio waves given off of an object so thats probally how the scanner can "see" the person in the distance.
        Ron Bergundy
      • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

        @Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

        <i>"That said, if a TSA agent couldn't spot that gun down the back of the woman's jeans then shesh ... "</i>

        How did you ever get a job writing anything for any company?
        Raid6
      • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

        @Adrian Kingsley-Hughes I agree with Raid6. Your comment is just sad. Do that job for a week then come back and tell me how you feel about it.
        blueskip
      • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

        @Adrian Kingsley-Hughes : then , don't fly to the U.S. if you hate that so much. Stay in the U.K. watching Monty Python
        nomorebs
    • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

      @pmas1998@...

      You are correct regarding those images. I do a fair bit of travelling for work and I have been following all the complaints about the full body scanners very closely. While the actual images from the machines are quite revealing, the image above of the young lady is NOT an image from one of them. That image, which has been seen elsewhere on the web, is nothing but an inverted standard high-resolution photograph of a naked woman that has been doctored to add the outline of clothing and the firearm and cell phone.

      Anyone interested in the website that disproved it can probably find it via a simple google image search.

      As to the author of this article, you should really check your sources before posting fabricated images like that.
      jeff92k7
      • So the fake image invalidates the story? Keep up the Kook-Aid consumption.

        @jeff92k7 - SO WHAT!!! Its distractors like you is why nothing EVER changes, the whiney and stupid make up 10 million lame excuses to not listen to reality and get in the way of people trying to change things. Just shut up.
        Reality Bites
      • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

        @jeff92k7 For illustration purposes but where was the author to obtain illegal pictures? You think the editor would ever assume such liability as having illegal pictures in their possession?

        Come on now1
        jsjag
    • The point is we cannot trust our government on this.

      @pmas1998@... We were told over and over the images would not be saved...and yet they were. If we can't believe the US Marshals on that, why should we believe them on anything else?

      On a side note, just where did that girl have that gun shoved?
      cornpie
      • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

        @cornpie why would you ever believe ANYTHING the government tells you? They are only going to tell you what you want to hear, thats the way its always been. I am not saying everything the gov says is a lie, but I guarantee you that most of it is only half truths. I am not the least bit surprised by this, any digital image or any image at all for that matter, has the ability to be copied or saved, even with something as simple as a camera on your phone.
        nickdangerthirdi@...
      • Hope you felt the same about GW

        @cornpie as Obama. The TSA is ALL Bush, and these machines are ALL Chertoff.
        doctordawg
    • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

      @pmas1998@... The supposeded "body scan" of the image of a woman is an old pic making the rounds and has already been proved to be photoshopped using a negative image and is not illustrative of anything coming out of the modern body scanners. journalistic integrity indeed!
      joachimc@...
  • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

    I haven't had the chance to go through one of these yet but pretty sure when the time comes I'd rather get the extensive pat down. They will always have the ability to save the images. As soon as some schmuck tries to go through one with a gun or grenade, that picture is going to be saved and sent to all the authorities and slipped to the media as well. You do make a good point about just how much radiation is shooting out of that. Its not just inside, but what is leaking out.
    Loverock Davidson
    • Metal detectors detect guns and grenades

      @Loverock Davidson No radiation scanner necessary. Broken wine bottles in First Class make excellent sharp weapons, so bad guys don't need to bring a hidden shank. This is all theater. Nothing more. Chertoff is getting rich while we all pay.
      doctordawg
  • Until the day a terrorist or lunitic pulls a gun out on board your plane

    then your going to be mad that the government didn't force everyone to walk thru the body imager. and if you live you'll probally try to sue the government for not using the scanners!!
    Ron Bergundy
    • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

      @cyberspammer The day a lunatic pulls a gun out on the airplane is the day I may die to save my family. Airplane or street makes no difference. I will not be subject to that villany. Luckily I live in a state that supports my 2nd amendment rights and I exercise those rights every day. I only wish I could do the same with air travel.

      Depending on others for the safety of myself and my family is the among the worst ideas I've heard. I teach my family how to take action to protect themselves regardless of the circumstances. That way they at least have a chance at not waiting around for law enforcement to come and write a report about what has already transpired.
      trent1
      • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

        @trent1
        When seconds matter, the police are just minutes away.
        Dr. John
      • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

        @trent1 Have you ever been accosted? If someone pulls a gun on you, they have the offensive advantage. You don't know what they might do, but they have a reasonable assessment of your likely responses. Any suspicious move you make, such as reach for your gun, is likely to speed up your demise.

        How many times have you had the opportunity to stop a crime with your gun? Given the number of people in a given area and the number of fire-arm related crimes per capita, it seems very unlikely you will ever encounter the opportunity to be a hero, much less the chance to defend yourself in a surprise attack. In fact, how many times has anyone been able to use their gun to prevent such an incident?

        I'm not against gun ownership, but everyone is a law-abiding citizen until they break the law. Even cops with all their training and experience with assessing tense situations, make fatal mistakes.
        technology@...
      • RE: Body scanner saved 35,000 'naked' images

        @trent1
        you think you should be able to bring a gun on a plane!!! Doesn?t my right to LIFE trump your second amendment rights? We don?t need scanners because YOU are going to save us!! Ha ha. Once you start yakking like that you become one of them and not one of us.. sane sensible Americans who want to find the right mix to be as safe as possible without giving up to much liberties
        BDC1