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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530

By | August 3, 2010, 6:58am PDT

It seems that quite a number of you Constant Readers are interested in building a PC, or upgrading an existing one, to take advantage of Intel’s Core ix line of processors. And why not! Not only is the Core ix (i3, i5 and i7) line an excellent piece of silicon, but your system also gets to take full advantage of the faster DDR3 RAM.

Before we go on, some notes on upgrading. First, the Core ix line needs a different socket to the LGA 775 that Intel has been using for the past few years. Here we’re going to be using a socket LGA 1156 processor and motherboard. If you want to use the high-end Core i7 parts then you’ll need a socket LGA 1366 motherboard for accommodate those CPUs - but those are pricier and this is a budget build!

Another point to make about upgrading is that chances are that your existing PC makes use of DDR2 RAM, so this will need to be changed for DDR3 … which leaves you with a motherboard and CPU that can form the basis of a second cheap PC!

With that out of the way, let’s start building!

Note: As a price reference I’ve used Newegg.com, but you are free to use any retailer that takes your fancy. Just do a search using the keywords that I’ve highlighted in bold for each entry.

CPU

As the basis of this build I’m going to start with the cheapest Core ix processor on offer - the INTEL Core i3 530. This is a 2.93GHz dual-core part. It might not sound much when compared to the quad-core behemoths currently available, but at just a shade over $100, it represents excellent value for money!

Price: $115

Motherboard

The trick with buying a motherboard for a budget build is to find a board that’s cheap enough so we can save the pennies to invest elsewhere, but not so cheap that you end up with a crappy computer at the end of the build. You want a board that’s nice, stable and robust, even when buying on a budget.

Here I’ve gone for an Intel board - the INTEL BOXDH55PJ LGA 1156 board featuring an H55 north bridge chipset. It’s a sub $100 board, but it’s a good board. Not only will it work for the Core i3 CPU we’ve chosen above, but it’s good for all LGA 1156 Core ix parts.

Oh, and to make sure you have plenty of power at your disposal, it support 8GB of RAM.

Price: $90

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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RE: Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530
soskert 11th Oct
@burtoni it does seem like a general upgrade more than a build.
sam - house rental
Let's see, how about a case? $50 for something simple. How about a DVD Drive? Another $50 unless you want Blu-Ray, which adds at least another $100. An O/S would be nice - a copy of Windows 7 is another $120, and a decent keyboard and mouse is another $50. And you still don't have a display (21-23" 1920 X 1280 is about right) for another $200. That brings us up to $470. Or, about a $1,000 for a working system. It'll be a pretty nice system, too. But it won't be under $500.
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@panzrwagn@... If this is an upgrade I was assuming that the old case, optical drives, display, mouse and keyboard were being re-used. The old OS can be transferred to the new system. In fact the PSU from the old case could be transferred over as well if it is compatible with the new MB.
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@burtoni
the old OS cannot be transferred it it happens to be an OEM OS, not an off the shelf version. In my case I wouldn't want to tranfer XP anyway. Why upgrade if you are going to use the old OS? My optical drives, while are operating fine came witht he old system, and therefore are several years old, and do not read/write to every configuration of DVD.
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RE: Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530
panzrwagn@... 4th Aug 2010
@burtoni, The title of your post says "Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530" Not "Upgrade to a Core ix PC - Starting at $530" A little less hyperbole, please. That said, I recently built an I5-750 based PC with RAID1 1TByte drives, and Blu-Ray for about $1200. I couldn't be happier with the results. Most notably, my Comcast download speed jumped by over 50% to nearly 20MBits/Sec and Win7 is as stable as a rock. Could I have done as well with a prebuilt box? Certainly not from Dell or HP. Velocity came closest, but didn't offer on-board RAID, and having lost one too many HDDs, the extra $100 for a mirrored drive is cheap insurance, both for my data and my time.
@panzrwagn@...Velocity came closest, but didn't offer on-board RAID, and having lost one too many HDDs, the extra $100 for a mirrored drive is cheap insurance, both for my data and my time.

I picked up an HP Media Smart Server for $200 last year. It makes a great home/small office backup solution.
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RE: Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530
inspirearun@... Updated - 8th Sep 2010
@burtoni
for pc buying guides go to lensfire.blogspot.com
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@burtoni it does seem like a general upgrade more than a build.
sam - house rental
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@panzrwagn@... Of course, that $50 for a case is "a case without PSU".

There are a number of cases with decent PSUs available, probably for less than the total of the PSU quoted and a separate case...
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@panzrwagn@... DVD burners are like 20 bucks on newegg :P

Besides... who needs windows, in a world without fences and walls who needs gates and windows!
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@panzrwagn@... you do realize this is an UPGRADE. Most of the parts you mention you will already own if you are upgrading
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@panzrwagn@... Did you read the friggin article ? It says to add case, optical drives and peripherals. This is a basic budget build/upgrade WITHOUT the case, optical drive, etc.
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Does your CPU cost include a cooling fan?
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@howardgr
if it's a retail cpu, it comes with a stock cooler that's more than adequate for the person that would be building this system (clearly not a person that would overclock).
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Right and wrong
klumper Updated - 3rd Aug 2010
@dlancelot
if it's a retail cpu, it comes with a stock cooler that's more than adequate for the person that would be building this system (clearly not a person that would overclock).

The stock heatsink and fan will suffice even when overclocking, assuming you don't bump the vcore (voltage) too aggressively. Simply lower the clock multiplier, ramp the VC up just a smidgen, and keep your memory and QPI frequencies in line (spec). You should be able to jump the i3 530 to 3.5-4GHz range without much sweat. However push the vcore too high and the redline increases = good bye stock cooler.

As for the mainboard, Asus and Gigabyte tend to OC with greatest assurance and margins, but Intel's boards have come a long way from only a few years back. YMMV as always. GL!
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AMD's AM3 platform also supports DDR3 and makes a compelling alternative
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Plus, AM3's support DDR2 RAM (NT)
davagain 3rd Aug 2010
@emiliosic
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Ignore this post
Stuka Updated - 5th Aug 2010
Misread the post. Ignore.
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RE: Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530
radical_enterprizes@... 3rd Aug 2010
There are a lot of PC's out there that are ready to take home and plug in right from a store for $530.00 and the manufacturer gets all of the headaches. Building one has to have more advantages than trying to save money. AMD Processor's more bang for the buck!!
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RE: Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530
M.R. Kennedy 3rd Aug 2010
@radical_enterprizes@...

Firstly, if you can find a pre-built PC for $530 that has the same overall performance as the one that Adrian detailed, by all means go out and buy it. I'm patient enough to wait for you to search and find one...

Secondly, the processor choice--Intel Core iX--was Adrian's. If you want to stump for an AMD-based system, get your own blog.
@M.R. Kennedy: ...comparing an upgrade to a complete system.
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And it wasn't that hard to find... I think that the title is misleading, for a complete system it really needs more stuff like other people have been saying. And right now you're better off getting any of these deals

@M.R. Kennedy

Gateway DX4831-01U PT.GAJ02.037 Desktop PC - Intel Core i3-530 2.93GHz, 6GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, DVDRW, Media Reader, 300 Watt PSU, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6270999&CatId=4925


Gateway SX2850-01 PT.GAZ02.020 Desktop PC - Intel Core i3-540 3.0GHz, 4GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, DVDRW, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6336127&CatId=4925

From Newegg
lenovo IdeaCentre H320(4041-1BU) Intel Core i3 540(3.06GHz) 4GB DDR3 500GB Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883108315


Gateway SX2850-01 Intel Core i3 540(3.06GHz) 4GB DDR3 1TB Intel HD Graphics Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113142

@M.R. Kennedy
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@radical_enterprizes@...
If you get your inexpensive PC from OEM it usually has lower specs than one you could assemble yourself for the same price. OEMs usually save money on weak or integrated video, slow RAM, slow hard drive and wimpy power supply. If you want a PC with powerful video card but do not care much about HDD size or blue ray you are out of luck. I do not know OEM that offers such option.
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OEM vs DIY
klumper Updated - 3rd Aug 2010
@radical_enterprizes

There are some decent OEM deals to be had for sure, but dollar for dollar, consider the DIY route if you can or hire a whitebox banger to do it for you, more so if the local shop knows their way around overclocking (sensible OC = mild to moderate as opposed to aggressive, unless your style leans toward habanero, as does mine). DIY and whitebox custom builds almost always improve overall component quality, as has been mentioned.

And while AMD remains competitive, they no longer surpass Intel chips value-wise when all factors are considered. Core 2 and beyond has changed the game considerably.
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Why not the BOXDH55TC?
klumper 3rd Aug 2010
If you're going to go budget micro ATX and Intel on the mobo, why not the BOXDH55TC instead? Same basic specs, but you double the RAM capacity to 16GB (plus 4 slots beat 2). You also get onboard eSATA ports and better audio (8 versus 6 channel). All for the same basic price.

You won't be able to tap the additional turbo boost mode (TBT) the 55TC has with only two cores out front, but realistically, you won?t miss it either.
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People do favor one type over another, but you need to point out what it will cost for a Phenom II system.
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I just put together a system without an optical drive for less than $400 and that's with a athlon 2 quad core that decimates these I3 CPUs in benchmarks. You spent $500 for basically half a pc with about 2/3 the power (if that) of a similarly priced AMD build.
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RE: Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530
gtatransam@... 4th Aug 2010
i3's are crap, the i7 on the other hand, is the most Uber-awesome thing I've ever used.
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My local computer store has a Dell inspiron i3 540, win7 x64 4Gb ram 1Tb drive, DVD RW out the door for $599. Why would I want to build something to save $70
@sy34010: I can buy many i3 based systems for around $530 except none of them have the graphics capability of the system Adrian configured.

It might be possible to buy one of these systems and add the graphics card and offset the cost by selling the old system (since Adrian was performing an upgrade and not a complete system build). However one must be careful to ensure the power supply in the system can support the graphics card. The graphics card Adrian selected requires a 400 watt power supply and these low cost systems typically have 250-300 watt power supplies.
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Another place to look is . . .
JLHenry 4th Aug 2010
@ye

Dell's outlet store. I have looked at HP's Outlet, but the discounts in Dell's outlet are a LOT better. I got my 531 in October with with 4 gig ram (Granted ddr2), an ATI 512 meg card (the exact model escapes me right now . . .), 500 gig HD, etc for about $450 dollars. I know those kinda deals don't come along every day, but if you keep looking at the store every so often, you can get some amazing deals . . .
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RE: Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530
j-mccurdy@... 4th Aug 2010
@sy34010 I can tell you why, When you build your own system, if you know what you're doing, you will get far better quality components. A good after market mobo will be designed for overclocking. Therefore it will have Japanese solid capacitors. Superior chipset cooling and just really good overall quality. And a far better quality power supply, unless you get a piece of crap Rosewill like Adrian did. Those 500 dollar OEM machines will have all bottom of the line parts, including crap memory. with a pretty nice processor and probably an OK hard drive on top of it all. everything else el cheapo. that's how they are able to sell them so cheap. Heck my EVGA motherboard has a lifetime warranty. And so does my video cards. And my power supply has 5 years. Of course mine is quite a bit more than 500 bucks, but the good company's have high quality stuff for budget builds too. I know I have done enough of them for customers. I have shown their components to them next to OEM parts, and even they could see the difference.
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Good ideas! Surplus PCs are really cheap or free -- they'll make a fine home for the components you've listed. The performance you'd get from this system should be more than adequate for most apps. Thanks for the inspiration.

Do you have any ideas on a building a high-end workstation for apps like CAD or post processing digital photography?
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"If you want to use the high-end Core i7 parts then you?ll need a socket LGA 1366 motherboard for accommodate those CPUs"

Not true.... There are socket 1156 main boards out there that support core i7 cpus as well as DDR3 (dual channel).... for example the ASUS P7P55D series.... A little looking will reveal many others I am sure....
@pfrankovich: As they can easily cause confusion. Adrian was likely referring to the i7 Bloomfield, not i7 Lynnfield, processors when he was said high-end.
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All that work and you still don't have this.
jkk5us Updated - 4th Aug 2010
2.8GHz Intel Core-i7-860 Processor, 6GB RAM, 1TB Hard Drive, DVD+RW w/ LightScribe, 802.11 a/b/g/n Wireless, nVidia GeForce GTX 260 Graphics, HDMI, Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit $749.99 http://www.ecost.com/prod/Systems/Desktops/Pavilion+Elite+28GHz+Intel+Core-i7+Desktop+w+6GB+RAM+and+1TB+Hard+Drive+-+Model+HPE-171f/56755293.aspx?navid=155441530
@jkk5us ... i would never buy a refurbished instead of a home built system. ONE, the motherboard has some serious drawbacks like quality, upgrades, features, etc.... the other parts in the system are also substandard by comparison.

When building a home build system, one concentrates on quality and performance more than cost. Although this blog is about low cost BYO systems, most people that do these things are not concerned about saving a lot of dollars compared to having quality components at reasonable prices (shopping around on net will get good deals on great products and still save dollars).
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I'm very pleased with my HP Pavilion
ye Updated - 4th Aug 2010
@dtroyerSMU: It is a p6130y: 2.4GHz quad core AMD Phenom processor, 8GB DDR2 RAM (expandable to 16GB), 750GB SATA HD, LightScribe dual layer DVD recorder, card reader, wireless, USB, firewire 400, integrated graphics, sound, and Windows 7 Home Premium x64 (free upgrade from Vista).

Total cost: $320 (refurbished but running great nine months later).
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What about on CPU graphics?
hfw10027 4th Aug 2010
Since many of the Core i3 and Core i5 chips have on-board graphics, what is the relative benefit of a graphics card? In terms of energy use, sticking with the on-CPU graphics means a tremendous savings in power, especially given the low power requirements of the CPU you have specced (73 watts).
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@hfw10027 what is the relative benefit of a graphics card?

Like with any computer or periphreal purchase it depends on what you plan to do with the computer. If you're playing high end games then you need the more powerful graphics card to keep up with the action. If you're reading email, browsing the web, and doing some word processing and a little photo work then you don't need a powerful graphics card. The integrated one will do just fine.
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Three words for you: "Microcenter i7 deal".... if you are within driving distance of a Microcenter store, they sell a 1366 i7 chip for $199. Or an i7-860 for $220. (the disadvantage of the socket 1366 is that a motherboard will be more expensive) Microcenter has been running this deal for over a year, I think.

I sure wouldn't buy an i5 when I can get i7 for $199 or $220.
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I'm planning to buy/build a new main system sometime next year and retire this box to a home server role.

For that it will need neither keyboard or mouse (on a permanent basis, anyway).

Yes, since this box has a system-builder W7 on it, i'll have to buy a new copy of Windows.

So, for roughly $700, i get a powerful new machine, and a good (Ubuntu Server based) server/gateway for my home network.
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RE: Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530
ronbo256@... 4th Aug 2010
Please avoid that rosewill PSU at all costs. A corsair vx-450 is only about 10 or 15 dollars more, and your brand new parts will thank you.
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RE: Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530
CodeCurmudgeon 4th Aug 2010
Once I got to the article, I found you were talking about "Core i" series processors. I initially read it as "Core Nine."
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I would prefer this motherboard.
GIGABYTE GA-770TA-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Has higher Ram speed 1866mhz
Higher USB speed 5gbs
Higher SATA3 speed 6gbs and is under $100.
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I'm in Canada and I just purchased a new HP desktop (Pavilion 6330) for $500; i3 CPU, 6GB DDR3 ram, 1TB hard drive, Windows 7 Home Prem (64 bit)), DVD burner/drive.
Why would I want to build one ??
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Why buy HP?...to each his/her own...
dtroyerSMU 4th Aug 2010
@gardinerhm ... from our experience here at a university shop, we see far more broken HP computers in here than any other brand!... Does that surprise you?
It shouldn't. HP has the worst track record in machine that breakdown in short time periods.
Just because you can buy it cheap, it doesn't mean it is good.
OOps, you bought it. Good luck on the warranty work! Hope you got that extended one. You will need it.
@dtroyerSMU: Very pleased with their reliability. Her laptop is 2 1/2 years old and my desktop is going on nine months now. Her laptop was ~$450 and my desktop was $320. I'm very pleased with HP and will recommend them.
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@dtroyerSMU I bought this one to replace an HP that was 5 yrs old....and never had a prob. Replaced it to get Windows 7 and more ram & storage. I don't buy ur HP comments ! But thanks anyway for ur comments.
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RE: Build a Core ix PC - Starting at $530
jurgislasevicius@... 4th Aug 2010
Firstly I am biased toward AMD, I would not use Intel processors if they were given to me, and if somebody did I would sell it and buy AMD. Amd is inexpensive and offers excellent results, with Intel one never knows, It started off with floating point problems then it progressed to other problems. And after asking Intel to replace the processors in question even offering to pay extra for a later version they turned us down, Intel cooked their goose so to speak. So please do us all a favour and use AMD in future write ups and leave cheap skate Intel out, it is sad that a lot of businesses are bribed by Intel there was even an anti-trust suit brought against them in Europe but it was hushed up, no more has been heard of it.
To summarise excellent write up but with the wrong parts, I'd say don't mess up an excellent article with cheap products namely Intel.
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I did way better than that...I got the AMD x4 Phenom II 965 BLACK which means the cpu clock is unlocked and when accellerated, runs as fast as an Intel i7 for $100. Picked the ASUS EVO MoBo for $114. 4GB ram, $99, Case and PWR (500watt) for $35. 1TB Sata drive, $69 GeForce9800 w/512mb ram for $49. I had a LiteOn DVD writer already..and keyboard, mouse and LCD. I got everything at my Local MicroCenter store! Talk about speed!

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