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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Building a budget PC for under $500

By | February 1, 2012, 5:01am PST

Summary: How to build a budget PC around the AMD A8 Llano APU (Accelerated Processing Unit).

Believe it or not, it’s possible to put together a great value PC without having to spend the earth, remortgage your house or sell your first-born! I’m going to show you how to build a budget PC for under $500 around the AMD A8 Llano APU (Accelerated Processing Unit).

RelatedHow to: Stress test your new PC to shake out any faults

Note: As usual, I won’t be recommending a case or peripherals … there are too many possibilities, and personal choice/tastes are too varied.

Processor

As I’ve already said, this system is built around AMD’s A8 APU which sees the CPU and GPU combined into a single package.

The silicon I’m going to use here is the A8-3870K ‘Black Edition.’ It combines a 3.0GHz quad-core Socket FM1 CPU and a AMD Radeon HD 6550D GPU into a single package. Also, being a ‘Black Edition’ part it has an unlocked multiplier which makes overclocking easier (if you’re into that sort of thing).

Note: Because the APU is  CPU and GPU, there’s no need for a separate graphics card, which reduced the cost of the overall build. Also, the heatsink and cooler are included in the bundle, so there’s no additional spending required.

Price: $115

Motherboard

Because we’re using an A8 APU, we need a motherboard that features a Socket FM1, but don’t let that put you off going for an A8 APU because there’s plenty of choice.

With a budget build we don’t really need to go overboard on the motherboard, we just need something solid and reliable. Fortunately, for under $100 you can not only get a good board, but also high-end features such as HDMI and UEFI firmware, even USB 3.0.

The board I’ve gone for here is there the ASRock A75 PRO4. It contains everything you need at a decent price point.

Price: $90

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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RE: Building a budget PC for under $500
DT2 13th Feb
I would just go to TigerDirect and get one of their DIY kits for way under $500. More like $300-$400. They have a wide selection of CPU/MB combinations to suit just about anyone's needs and preferences. And, that includes a case.
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Bad idea on the ram
AceOfClubs 1st Feb
The APU processors are very very ram sensitive. bypass the 1333 and grab 1600 for the same price or slightly more. You will see a about a 20% jump in performance.
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@AceOfClubs

If the title said a budget gaming pc I would agree but that's not what the article is about. What, other then games would you see a 20% improvement from? For what he has it is perfectly fine. And if your going gaming then I would recommend 1866 memory for a little more $$, which would still keep it around $500.
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@AceOfClubs ... Ummm ...
thx-1138_@... Updated - 2nd Feb
... the article title says 'Building a budget PC for under $500'. I never got any inferences by AKH that he's trying to sell this random selection of parts / peripherals as somehow being a killer, Alienware-like, RAM ravenous, gaming rig. So no, his recommendations are actually quite good for a ... readit!...>>> Budget PC".

I'll even go on to argue that some of the parts (APU included) are actually a 'little' overkill - for even a budget system, nowadays.

Thanks for playing.
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$500 is budget? You can build a halfway decent gaming computer for 500.
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@Aerowind : Yep - I had exactly the same thought - other than wanting to gain experience, or being a control freak about what goes into the machine, why would anyone considering the category of BUDGET ever think of spending more than $200 to $300? If BUDGET is really an issue, one can shop refurbs & off lease sellers and stay well within the lower figure. Sure they will not necessarily be "up to date", but then that is the price of staying within a BUDGET.
I guess this is what happens when someone puts a keyboard in front of someone with a cloud-based brain.
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@Willnott

you're not buying budget as much as bargain bin junk. Basically units geared for surfing and lite duty needs, and susceptible to premature meltdowns and "mysterious" kludging (often tracked to the integrity of components used).

"My, my, are these leaky capacitors we're seeing here?" plain "Wonder what readings we'll find when we tab the power rails?" shocked *doink*

"Budget" as used here simply means inexpensive, not rock bottom. If that's the case, and your budget is very restrictive, you might want to look at used units (hopefully ones built with better quality parts). Many represent smart values, especially if the price is right and the mileage isn't too steep.
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RE: Building a budget PC for under $500
celliott113 Updated - 1st Feb
Soo...umm, what about the HDD? Or do computers not use those anymore? Must be a slow day to create another Budget DIY article. sad
@celliott113
It's listed under storage after the RAM section. Must be a slow day to read before posting
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@mike2k It is. :-D No coffee and my illiteracy is at its best until 10:00am. My bad. But it still seems odd for another diy article. Thanks for the correction.
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RE: Building a budget PC for under $500
ctcarino Updated - 2nd Feb
=D
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@celliott113 that's the HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 - $80 in the list
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@celliott113 OK. Where's the case? I HAVE had most of a cup of coffee and I still don't see it. Help me out.
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sparse motherboard
sparkle farkle 1st Feb
I considered building something with this amd processor, but was leary of the rendering capabilities of the 6550 when it came to open gl. Was wondering if you know anything about that?? It also seems like there's spots for a video card, and was wondering if the 6550 is available for use from the processor (to do vector math) if a video card is installed. Also if the onboard video is disabled when using another card, or if it's still available for dual screen.
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@sparkle farkle IIRC the 6550 is available for hybrid crossxfire usage, but I'm not sure with what cards.
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You can probably do just as well buying one from Dell or HP. In December of 2010 I picked up an HP Pavlion with a 2.4GHz, quad core AMD CPU, 8GB RAM, 750GB HD, Dual Layer DVD recorder with lightscribe, wireless networking, media card reader, etc, etc for $325.
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@ye

Starting with motherboard and PSU -- and it generally extends beyond that. The harder you push them (or attempt to), the quicker you discover shortcomings and trips. Some are worse than others, so this is cast in somewhat broad strokes.

Upgrading can also be more difficult, if not impossible. Replacement of OEM parts are often expensive, at times very expensive. And of course many warranties are voided if you open the case or interfere with any of the original parts. Thus YMMV.

That said, many OEM offerings do represent decent overall values. The lower you push the price point however, the quicker the corner cutting and compromises begin. That much you can bank on.
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@ye I haven't purchased a brand-name PC since 1997. When I realized that I could buy a pretty decent PC for less than I could build one for (~$500), I said goodbye to my DIY days. I bought an HP refurb TouchSmart with a 25.5 inch monitor. Love it. Works great for everything that I do. (Not a gamer.) Cost? $500.
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RE: Building a budget PC for under $500
zapthepunctual@... 3rd Feb
@ye That's true, I have built systems for years, but its hard to beat a prebuilt with those spec's. Add to that, that if you shop around you can find similar setups with last year's dedicated video card for pennies more.
The sad part of it all is that you can also find deals on already assembled PC's for under $500 too. Don't get me wrong, I still like building mine, but its for pride and not economic reasons.
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@jscott418

I too enjoy building my own computers.

For anyone that is interested, here are some reasons for this:
1. Knowing that you have high quality parts
- One of these parts is the power supply (PS). Many branded computers skimp on having a good PS. This also applies to many computer cases that are sold with power supplies.
2. Having a "clean" computer
- I prefer to have my own OS disc without bloatware, if nothing else
3. Longer warranty
-There are longer warranties on the individual parts than on a whole branded computer
4. Having "new" technologies
- It is amazing that although most major external hard drives are USB 3.0 now, very few branded computers offer this capability
5. Being able to replace parts.
- There are a number of companies (I wont name names) which use proprietary connections or arrangements in their computers. Sometimes, this includes common connectors with switched wire orders (hence, replacing a PS is out of the question).

This all being said, the computer manufacturers will typically include larger hard drives (1TiB) and more ram (8GiB) in computers sold at the same price point and specs as those you can build yourself.
@dsnyder1123 Besides the bloatware and perhaps a more efficient and more powerful PS, I don't see a huge amount of advantage. I can speak for HP but I've been pretty pleased with the DELLs regarding quality.

But it is more fun to do it yourself. And if you shop around sometimes you can get better prices for some of these components than listed here.
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@fairwinds8

"5. Being able to replace parts.
- There are a number of companies (I wont name names) which use proprietary connections or arrangements in their computers. Sometimes, this includes common connectors with switched wire orders (hence, replacing a PS is out of the question)."

You should name names, because in my 25+ years in this field, including the past 4 doing mostly desktop repairs/upgrades, I've yet to see a single "name brand" computer with proprietary parts. Not a single connector, not a single cable, not a single piece of hardware. Now, granted, I don't work on every manufactured brand out there, but your mainstream, Dell, HP, Lenovo, are all designed very nicely without proprietary parts that I've ever seen.
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Sweeping statements
klumper Updated - 2nd Feb
@ccs9623
You should name names, because in my 25+ years in this field, including the past 4 doing mostly desktop repairs/upgrades, I've yet to see a single "name brand" computer with proprietary parts. [...] your mainstream, Dell, HP, Lenovo, are all designed very nicely without proprietary parts that I've ever seen.

Q: Where exactly have you been during those 25 years? love Many OEMs use proprietary parts and designs, including the ones you named, some more than others. They may look standard, but often are just different enough to cause problems if you didn't know better. You can't just shove Ford parts into Chevys, ya know? Sometimes you can find workarounds, and sometimes you cant.

I could elaborate ad infinitum, but look at Dell alone. You've got their history of gaming PC designs, specialized mainboards [+ integrations], plus cases, the BTX form factor and non-standard ATX pinouts = PCP&C PSUs which were wired differently though keyed the same [!].

Hell, they've used proprietary power plugs even on fairly recent XPS gaming rigs. They've only come around on this during the last few years, and basically following their competitors' lead of getting more with standardization. [I'll still cut Dell a bit of slack though, as they were the last to sell out massively to outsourcing.]

Some computers are 100% proprietary, other computers are proprietary if only barely. It's always been this way, though there has been a general shift away from using non-standard components in more recent years. Be careful making sweeping statements about ANY of the big box pushers though. They're been known to flip flop in their implementation practices over the years according to needs (and sometimes whims + $ chases).

Of course let's not mention proprietary + the printer industry in the same breath, shall we? [*rolls eyes and burps*]
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at 500$ you might as well just buy a cheap laptop and not bother picking components.
One item that seems missing from the parts list is the case to assemble these componenets in. Or did I miss the mention of recycling an old case.
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RE: Building a budget PC for under $500
eric8341 Updated - 1st Feb
@DNSB I don't see case listed anywhere either... hmm

edit: found this "Note: As usual, I won???t be recommending a case or peripherals ??? there are too many possibilities, and personal choice/tastes are too varied."

A minimal cost should still be included for these items to be fair on the pricing...
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@eric8341

"A minimal cost should still be included for these items to be fair on the pricing... "

Great point!
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eric8341 .. assuming this article
thx-1138_@... 2nd Feb
.. isn't aimed at lay-people with squat knowledge of systems building, the custom-builder types (myself included) are likely to have an old, empty tower sitting around somewhere in their house / garage.

Any self-respecting systems builder that doesn't have a spare case (..or seven) needs a long, cold look in the mirror ... and to do some serious soul searching. wink
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I think I would leave the Windows on the shelf at over 1/5 of the cost of the project and install Linux instead. Doesn't that look better $380 for the machine. You also get all you apps for free, which will save thousands over the course of the machines life.
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@happyjedi I agree on the OS. You can take that $99 and use it to buy your case choice and/or peripherials (mice, keyboard, etc...)
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@happyjedi

You and I think alike!

We can do without Windblowze.
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@fatman65536 im using OpenSuse and Ubuntu! i liked it! =D
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Where can you find the A8-3870K for $115? AFAIK, the lowest price available is $135.
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To those that say you can just buy a cheap assembled PC instead: I agree, however the main advantage of building your own PC these days is IMO the Windows OEM - inexpensive and free of bloatware.

The cost for the case, tax and shipping will bring this quite a bit over $500 though.
@fawlty70: To those that say you can just buy a cheap assembled PC instead: I agree, however the main advantage of building your own PC these days is IMO the Windows OEM - inexpensive and free of bloatware.

...equipped system. I can get more RAM and HD, though not as fast a processor, for about the same money. More so given the price in the blog lacked some important components.
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check ibex pc
robert.w.michaelson@... 1st Feb
I built a system on ibexpc that I got about a year and a half ago. Blank drive, installed linux, and off I went for under $400 bucks with it fully assembled.
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And stick it all in a cardboard box
mailtousmani@... 1st Feb
Where is the chasis... This will cost another $50
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@mailtousmani@... Fourth sentence of the article. Let's read first and post second, shall we?
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And stick it in a cardboard box
mailtousmani@... 1st Feb
Where is the chasis
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I built an AMD 3.2 GHz quad-core system about a year ago for $320 (not including OS or case) with an XFX 5670 video card and an F4 2TB hard drive (parts list here https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B849_4sF8TdqMDhjMzljMjEtMjllOC00NWQ2LWE0YjUtZWRmZTkzYjlmMGI2&hl=en_US ). Memory prices dropped after I built it, so I now have 8 gigs of RAM instead of 4.

You can definitely build a much better machine cheaper than buying an off-the-shelf unit if you are willing to wait for deals on individual components you want.
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Another advantage to buying a pre-built is that it will come with an operating system installed.
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RE: Building a budget PC for under $500
dsf3g Updated - 1st Feb
@greenie_z

One further advantage: your wife won't blame you every time something goes wrong. She'll blame Dell, or whoever.

Buy a PC for the family. Build a PC for yourself. That's the rule I'll be following from now on.
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You're in the right ballpark me thinks
klumper Updated - 1st Feb
@dsf3g

Unless she's a screamin' demon power mama, as some are. wink
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@greenie_z advantage for non techie guys/gals.
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"Note: As usual, I won???t be recommending a case or peripherals ??? there are too many possibilities, and personal choice/tastes are too varied."
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"Note: As usual, I won???t be recommending a case or peripherals ??? there are too many possibilities, and personal choice/tastes are too varied"
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Yea, I hate to say it but.... yawn, yawn. $500 for a build-it-yourself box? Go check out what $500 will get you from Dell, or HP. A LOT more than the one listed in this article.
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The devil, as always, is in the details
klumper Updated - 2nd Feb
@ccs9623

and componentry used. A word to the wise: don't go too low. There's a reason they sell some boxes for dirt cheap, and it ain't to make you richer.

And let's not even touch on the crapware/trialware TAX that just about all come pre-packaged with, as others have commented on. Hopefully you don't tank anything critical as you carve the goo out. grin

There's also a reason the OEMs lock down the BIOSes on their machines. [hint: so you have no way to tweak the big boy controls and push 'em harder, since they know many of their lower and median rigs wouldn't be able to handle it]
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Did you forget about the case? That should put the price over $500.
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I pulled up prices for the APU found 1st choice could build it and deliver for within %50 of the price as a DIY Just saying
I would just go to TigerDirect and get one of their DIY kits for way under $500. More like $300-$400. They have a wide selection of CPU/MB combinations to suit just about anyone's needs and preferences. And, that includes a case.

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