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Capcom plans 'one-save' game to kill resale value

By | June 28, 2011, 6:04am PDT

Summary: Game publishers don’t like the second-hand game market because it eats into revenues. Capcom is planning to counter that by releasing a game for the Nintendo 3DS that can only support one save file - for life.

Game publishers don’t like the second-hand game market because it eats into revenues. Capcom is planning to counter that by releasing a game for the Nintendo 3DS that can only support one save file - for life.

The game is Resident Evil: Mercenaries 3D and according to the game’s instruction manual, the ”saved data on this software cannot be reset.”

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So essentially, not only are you paying $40 for a game that you can’t pass on, but it’s also a game that you can effectively only play once (in terms of unlocking achievements and so on - I understand that the actual game can be played over and over). Interestingly, Amazon.com is currently offering an $8.75 gift card to those who trade in this game. I can’t see this deal lasting long …

While the used-game market might be hitting publishers bottom-lines, I think that silly tricks like this might do more harm than good in the long run. But game publishers are known for making boneheaded decisions and not only sticking with them but also running with them. This could be the beginning of a disturbing trend.

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RE: Capcom plans 'one-save' game to kill resale value
zafer12 12th Aug
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Well, as I understand, you can often play older games on the new 3DS, so I assume there will be an updated console that plays 3DS games in the future. So this is going to be a bit of a problem for consumers, as it will be a good reason not to upgrade to the latest product.

Possibly a better method would be to make the game 'download only' so there is never a hard copy that could be sold on.

Anyway, I think the second hand market is good for the games companies, as most people who buy a new game will sell it on, for about half the price, to people who would have never paid the full amount anyway. So if they stop the secondhand market, they will also have to bring the price down significantly on new releases. A classic case of having your cake and eating it.
@Will T
To kill the Game Resale market is to shoot themselves in the foot. Literally. Without outfits like Gamestop around people simply will STOP buying new games altogether, instead of trading in old games that were beaten for newer ones.

I shall never buy a physical game that you can't resell. They charge too damn much to take that right away. Now if they slashed the price of the game by 75% I'd tolerate it. I'd tolerate it if it was a digitally non-transferrable game. (No hard copy.)

But while I hold a piece of hardware in my hands that is the software, I shall OWN it. No excuses. They charge too much for that for you not to OWN that copy.
The game publishers are making more money writing games for devices like iPhone, iPad, etc. I think this and decisions like above would cause more game publishers to move away from the console market and go to a market where money is! I, for one, am playing more and more on my iPad2 than on Wii. I love the fact that I am playing more ******** games than casual games on Wii. Spiderman is a superb game! Dead Space, Infinity Blade, I can go on...
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@browser. Does zdnet censor the word ********?
EDIT: i suppose they do
Wow, Capcom might want to check out the results of the poll on this site. If they're only trying to ditch 97% of their consumers, this is a good idea. If they're looking to continue making money hand over fist, not so much.
Capcom can kiss their customers goodbye if they think anyone is going to stand for this nonsense.
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Well, for a PS3 ... them suckers run you $60. Quite frankly, I gravitate towards the pre-owned section in Game Stop. The game has to be so compelling that I'm willing to pay full price for it, like Resident Evil 4 on the Wii (really wish it was in HD).
If Capcom was smart, they'd dive head-first into the secondary, resell gaming market. Make a marketplace for folks who have finished their Capcom games can put them up for sale, and others could buy the second-hand games, and Capcom gets a cut of the transaction.
@bigsibling Totally agree. In fact, the download-only games would be a prime candidate for this treatment. Let people sell their download-only games to somebody else for half what they paid. The key gets transferred. The original owner can no longer play it and the new owner gets it activated in their own name. The game company basically gets a cut of selling the same copy of the game twice. If they had a realistic view of which gamers will pay full price versus which will -never- pay full price, they would jump on this idea. Unfortunately, they are like the recording industry. They are under the delusion that every person who uses their product would have paid full price for it. That is never the case and if they had a brain, they would see that to be true.
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I'm only an occasional gamer
kcredden2 28th Jun
and yet I wouldn't put up with this stupidity. I was > close to buying Spore when it was released. Then I heard all the DRM bullpucky they threw into it, and walked.

I play Xplane 8.01, and v9. Guess what? The first day I got it, I went to the net and got a crack to get rid of the need for the master CD to be in your drive at all times. I am NOT going to play a game and carry around a master CD that could be damaged and rendered unusable.

If a causal user doesn't put up with this stupidity. Do they honestly think this new trick is going to stop piracy, and stop the rental market? They've tried all sorts of stupid tricks, and nothing has worked.

- Kc
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Capcom not alone...
gt90v12 Updated - 28th Jun
I acquired the new Mortal Combat for the Sony PS3 when it was released. I was very suprised to find a "Kombat Pass" code for access to online features. Essentially, if I were to pawn the game (not that ever do), say to GameStop, the code that I used cannot be transferred. It states on the card that it's a single use code. Hence should the game be resold through a reseller such as GameStop, the new user will be required to purchase an "Kombat Pass", providing their old enough to play mature rated games, else the "Kombat Pass" will be unavailable for purchase till such time.
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@gt90v12 Homefront was the same way. You had to enter a one time use code to play online. You could still play the single player game no problem.
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stupid tactic
rengek 28th Jun
All this will do is make gamers go for cracked versions of the game.
I'm not sure about the rest of the contributors here but IMHO putting this information at the bottom of a page, in a hard copy document seems rather sneaky, I rarely think oh I need to read the manual completely when I pop a new game in. It seems that this might have a serious side effect. I know that my 14 year old doesn't read the docs, most games are plug and play about the only time you really need to check a manual is i f the game has complex multi function key maps. Hopefully they have a notice on launch that the game has only one game save slot. Similar to that of DVD region selection.
I'm not about to rent games rather than buy them.
@bargeemike
Then you either have too much money or FAR too few brain cells.
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@Onaka

I am pretty sure you misunderstood the above poster. He means he is not going to pay a retail price of $40 for a game he can not resell or replay, as though it were only rented.
Thankfully, I'm not a true "gamer".
When I saw the last PS3 come out and saw it was download only I thought, who will want that? It's "good" for them, but not for their customers. Enough people learn about it and it dies just like DRM on music eventually did.
About the only ones that can get away with one license stuff are the massive multi-player worlds like WOW. Not for me, but at least they can make some claim to needing to pay for the hardware and network, etc.
What Capcom really, really, wants to kill is the game rental companies. I'm guessing enough bad publicity will put the kibosh on this right quick. Turn their plans for the next multi-million dollar release to crap since people will wait to prove they won't get ripped off again.
@richard233
Ps3 is a hard disc game console??? You mean the PSP Go handheld??
One more reason for piraters to pirate. And for normal consumers to get screwed. Thanks alot capcom.
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@wendellgee@... Yeah, maybe not after 9/11 where everyone got so sensitive. Thanks a lot, bin Laden...

Joking aside, the biggest issue I see with this is not the resale value or the rental market but the households with multiple children. Are you telling me that if I bought my nephews this game, only one of them could play it? THAT is a mega messed up rip off right there!
EDIT: Not that I would buy my 14 and 7 yr old nephews any RE game.
Adrian,

It is not true that the game can only be played once. It can be played as many times, on as many 3DSs and by as many people who care to play it. The only thing you can't do is reset it to its "factory defaults".
This is a game where the goal is to play each level again and again and again to get the highest score possible. There's no plot and no actual "finish line". Since you can't erase the save data you won't be able to reset high scores or undo all the stuff you unlocked along the way. This might be a problem for some people who buy the game second-hand because it will show high-scores from someone else and they won't get to experience unlocking stuff on their own. I agree that this could diminish resale value, and that Capcom is trying to do just that. But there's a big difference between this and your claims.
I suggest you correct your post.
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Double post. Ignore.
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So basically, if I drop/lose/damage my 3DS, I won't be able to play this on my replacement device. No thanks.
@Garrett Williams

NOT TRUE! You can replay this game as many times as you'd like and on as many 3DSs as you'd like. The only thing you can't do is reset it to its "factory settings".
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as we pay the same price - in pound sterling - as the US does in bucks. Its already such a burden that I never buy a new game, I wait a couple of weeks and get it half price because someone has rinsed it, then traded against something else brand new.
No-one but an idiot pays 40 quid for content, and Crapcom arent even known for putting a lot of that in their games either.
I dont buy enough games to justify trading even, it so this decision simply means they wont be selling me any software, period.

Sad, moneygrubbing dinosaurs clinging on to a dying world - when the rest of us want to share and socialise our media.
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I think until we can get high speed everywhere with out caps digital only isn't going to fly for games. I don't necessarily buy used games only, but unless it is a really good title (usually a sequel, or something by Bioware or Bethesda) I'm going to wait for the price to come down ~$60 is too much for my wallet.
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Any different from EA
kgross 28th Jun
who includes single use codes for on-line gaming with most of their newer titles?
What happened to the doctrine of first sale? Sure this doesn't violate the law, but this product is not in the spirit of what most people consider to be the norm when buying products. It's unethical.
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Wow... You know what really eats into resale value? Annoying the buyers.

Look at the awful things Sony has been doing to its buyers lately and look at the reprisals. At best, people simply won't buy the game and will trash-talk the developers.

More likely in today's climate, you'll attract the wrath of a group like lulzsec.
Good. And someday Capcom may targeted by the remains of LulzSec. happy Did anyone requested?
Well, I guess that'll be "bye bye" to Nintendo then! Speak about shooting yourself in the foot ... they are aiming to take both legs off below the knee? Dumb or what?
One of my sons rents his games monthly from a club, which seems to work for him, while my other son buys the full version as soon as it's released and then plays it to completion before selling it on and using the proceeds to subsidise his next new game. Now what's wrong with that I want to know? If he didn't do it this way then he wouldn't be able to afford to buy so many new games. As there are XBoxes, PS3s (and 2's), PSPs, Wii's and a couple of Nintendos lying around my house, they would simple change to using the system that doesn't adopt this policy, thus causing less revenue to the makers of that platform as less games will be sold. The lower the amount of games sold, the less likely that the programmers will bother writing new software for them which will in turn stop people buying these sytems in the first place ... then it's goodbye Nintendo! Simple really!
Whelp, Capcom can kiss any dream of getting any of my money goodbye, until they actually realize how much of a dick move that is.
This is just like UbiSoft's jacked-up requirement that you have to be connected to the internet at all times to be able to play. Frankly, they had two games I really wanted but now refuse to buy anything from them because of that. They essentially lost a good customer because they wanted to be greedy.
Looks like Capcom wants to be included on that list too.
If their industry is dying, they have no one but themselves to blame.
I don't understand the mentality of most posters here. It seems everyone is content to have money vacuumed out of their wallets to be tethered to a server via cellular networks for apps that cannot be re-sold, but want a CD-ROM in their hand when it comes to a game. ??? I don't get it. Why are we going nuts over smart phones and cloud computing? Throwing money at Apple, Microsoft, AT&T, Verizon, etc? They offer NOTHING that can be re-sold.
And then we will really see the gaming industry fall short on sales yet again. Used game sales help the gaming industry and i for one wont pay 40 or over for a game unless its one i really have enoyed
Then they wonder why the gaming industry is not getting the revenue and this will surely hurt the gaming revenue even worse than now I don't pay new prices on games unless it is a game like uncharted as i am a ps3 owner ebay is my friend along with other used game stores.
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I play a game with very nice, but it metin2
metin2 pvp
metin2 pvp serverler

and install servers by lara s depending on the tour game bilrisiniz

tuztanem
manolyam
manolya


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1299 gm komutlar?
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