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Could games consoles become extinct?

By | July 8, 2011, 1:57pm PDT

Summary: Could mobile gaming could become so popular that it could overtake traditional console gaming?

Could mobile gaming could become so popular that it could overtake traditional console gaming?

Over on IndustryGamer there’s an interesting interview with id Software’s John Carmack.

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Could games consoles become extinct in the next 5 years?

“One thing that we hear a lot, especially from our older developers, is, ‘I don’t spend a lot of time sitting down in front of my 360 or PS3, but I pull out my iPad and play some little game all the time.’ It’s a different experience though… it’s a diversion rather than a destination. And while they’re certainly powerful enough now to make destination titles, that’s still not really what’s doing particularly well there. But it certainly is a worry.”

Carmack’s a smart guy, and I think he’s captured the state of play (pardon the pun) well here. At the moment there’s enough of a gulf between a mobile device (such as a smartphone or a tablet) and a games console. People approach a mobile device with a different set of expectations compared to a games console. Carmack is spot on in defining mobile as ‘diversionary’ and games consoles as a ‘destination.’

But things change rapidly. Look at how the likes of the iPhone and iPad have literally come from nowhere to become a really big player in gaming. Give these devices a few more years and who knows where they’ll be and what they’ll be capable of. Carmark says that we can be certain that in 2 years mobile devices will be more powerful than today’s games consoles. This is something that the likes of Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo need to be thinking about - the lifecycle for a games console is many years, and if they’re competing only on power and performance alone, mobile devices could catch up with and pass that of the console, forcing a premature refresh. Console accessories such as Microsoft’s Kinect hands-free controller are important in helping consoles maintain a lead over mobile devices.

I don’t think that games consoles are at risk of going extinct any time soon, but I do believe that just in the same way that consoles usurped the PC, mobile platforms could certainly displace consoles are the primary gaming platform.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

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Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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RE: Could games consoles become extinct?
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RE: Could games consoles become extinct?
DeRSSS Updated - 8th Jul
@Rama.NET: +2

People who question game consoles should watch latest Unreal Engine demo, which is run real-time on two NVidia 590 cards -- what is equivalent for four NVidia 580 cards.

This system set of GPUs translates to like $2000 money (not counting the computer itself), 1000+ Watts of power, 12 billion transistors, 2040 square mm (1.8 inches by 1.8 inches) of crystal area.

The result is outstanding, cinematographic quality of picture.

Obviously, not even the next (nearest) generation of game consoles will be able to run this demo (costs will not allow that) -- next after next will. People will always want as good graphics as possible, and only games consoles will deliver than en masse.
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Droid101 Updated - 11th Jul
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It's all about user experience innovation
P. Douglas Updated - 10th Jul
The reason why mobile is so hot now, is because user experience (UX) innovation made it so. As long as companies bring a similar holistic development and support approach to other technologies (like what has been done for mobile) older technologies should be able to hold their own. This means that it is not only possible for game consoles to hold their ground, but the PC can regain much of the luster it lost over the years, and both can even expand their gaming reach. Therefore if game consoles develop around the primacy of user experience, they should continue to do well and grow. Also, MS can take a similar approach to smartphones, and hammer out specs for sets of consumer appliances built around Windows 8. These appliances could include game PCs that contain a superset of software above the standard Windows software, that offer distinctive, breath taking user experiences. These devices could form the highest tier of gaming experience, and they, like all other Windows based devices, could be powered by Xbox Live and other consumer services, offering a spectrum of gaming and entertainment experiences. Other Windows 8 consumer appliances could have different emphases. E.g. tablet based devices whose emphasis is around telephony, could usher in a level of UX and supporting innovation around telephones, that would make todays telephones seem quaint. Other consumer devices could be built around movies and music emphasis. Most all of these devices would be able to run general touch based software: they would simply excel in certain areas, and be okay in others.
@Droid101: better turn on 1080p mode.
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Gotta be kidding. Mobile games have terrible controls, bad graphics, and, well, I guess that's it; but that's everything.

Mobile games are just that, easy to play while mobile. That's why the traffic has gone up so much. People don't play mobile games when they get home, the play real games on their PC's or consoles.
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@Droid101 But what if you could use a PS3 Controller or keyboard and mouse?
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@Droid101 One problem: to the people that matter in 2011 (the casual gamer, who is high risk to pander to, but as Angry Birds proved, exceptionally high reward if you strike well), they don't care about proper controls, good graphics, or anything like that. They were playing Bejeweled in order to avoid work five years ago.
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@superbus Except those people who were playing Bejeweled never got into the console market, so that's a moot point.
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will be A gaming device
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@swisslakes Thanks for reminding me. What happened to this product and how come we dont have bloggers complaining about Google's lack of initiative here.
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It's simple really
LiquidLearner 8th Jul
When you sit down and play a game on a home console/PC, you're often embarking on a large scale experience. You want your TV, you want your KB/M, you want comfort. You're going to be playing for quite a while. I don't want to play Dragon Age 2, SC2, Fallout, etc on a even a 5" screen. And let's face it, 5" is a little much for a phone even though we're getting closer. And I certain don't want to be using a touch screen interface the entire time I play (+1 for Nintendo here on the new console hopefully). So an iPad or any other tablet device is out of the question really.

Do I play games on my phone? Sure. They all share the same ultimate theme. I can play quickly and for short periods of time and still get something accomplished and I would never pay more than a couple dollars for them. Would I buy Final Fantasy for my phone? No way. Not a good platform for that kind of game. Battery life, interruptions, lag (Droid 2) do not add up to the kind of experience I'm going for. Quake on an iPad? Awful idea.

However, another 5 years, wireless controller connectivity, wireless display output, docked charger. Able to output to any of your TVs that can accept wireless display. You could have mobile devices in 5-10 years that could run 3-4 games at once on multiple TVs that are on par with what we have today, if not better. When we hit that point consoles will no longer be necassary. You have to ask yourself, who is in the best position to cash in on what that could mean for computing in general. Because quality games will always be needed I think Nintendo and Sony are safe, just wouldn't expect a dedicated gaming console after 2020 at the latest.

Microsoft could lead the charge here. I hope they have the leadership to pull it off but we'll have to see.
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@LiquidLearner

Microsoft has no leadership at the moment. That's the root of the problem.
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One thing that we hear a lot, especially from our older developers, is, ?I don?t spend a lot of time sitting down in front of my 360 or PS3, but I pull out my iPad and play some little game all the time

If that doesn't sound like a fishy statement, not sure what is. It sounds like he's trying to entice people to use a tablet for gaming, and I'm guessing they're trying to get a good jump into tablet games?

Not like that's possible, right?
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@William Pharaoh

Look up who id Software and J. Carmack is and then read your comment again.
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@dave95.

Your statement is both cryptic in light of Carmack's recent venture and doesn't negate his statement. Carmack gets a lot of well-deserved credit, but also a lot of credit he doesn't deserve. ID software has been trailing in recent years and his bid to save it has been chasing the market and jumping onto niche bandwagons to try and carve out a foothold for a few minutes.

It would not shock me in the least if his latest target market is mobile/tablet games. He's always been a GL fanatic, even before it was open, and he's falling more and more in line with Apple by the moment.
"Could games consoles become extinct?"

No.

Seriously - popularity is not to be confused with replacement. It's never been true that the rise of one technology inevitably makes a similar technology obsolete. There are many cases where several similar technologies have thrived together.

"Carmack?s a smart guy"

Yeah, but he hasn't always been right about everything. He's a great developer, but I wouldn't call him a great at predictions.

He's a game developer, not a crystal ball.

"Look at how the likes of the iPhone and iPad have literally come from nowhere to become a really big player in gaming."

They became big, but they didn't replace anything. They just filled up a lot of time when most people would just be bored. You can't lug around a big console while waiting in line at a store, but you can certainly pull out an iPhone.

The iPhone became the platform to be on while on the go - a role that consoles never really filled anyways.

"Carmark says that we can be certain that in 2 years mobile devices will be more powerful than today?s games consoles."

That's not hard to do, considering current consoles are using obsolete technology anyways. Which is why I've been saying for quite some time that we really need to start working on the next generation of consoles.
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RE: Could games consoles become extinct?
rhonin Updated - 8th Jul
@CobraA1
Couple of things... (current consoles: PS3 / PS2 / Wii / PC)
The iphone didn't change the game environment.
Prior to the iDevice, I used my pda, my smartphone and cell to play basic simpler games; ie: time fillers.
With the advent of the iDevice change, these fillers have changed. This activity has nothing to currently do with gaming consoles.

MS has the lineup to change this though....
xBox to Win8 phone to PC to....

Will the traditional console go away?
Not for quite awhile.
Lets see the iphone/ipod/ipad do a Blink equivalent to a PS3 on a 48" HD LED or PC AW with twin 29" HD Monitors all of them in surround sound.....

Chuckle
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Dedicated gamers have valid reasons for endorsing game consoles.

However, iPad users will shortly have the ability to stream mobile games to large screen HDTVs via Apple TV and iOS 5.

Android and various other tablets can due almost the same thing except those tablets probably need an HDMI cable to accomplish displaying tablet screen images on an HDTV.
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RE: Could games consoles become extinct?
Michael Alan Goff 8th Jul
@kenosha7777

My mom isn't a dedicated gamer, but she loves her Wii and the exercise games on said system. I doubt she would use an iPad for that, since the Wiimote gives some sort of response.
@goff256
Do they have a wrist strap for the iPad?
Hmmmm.........
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@goff256

Nothing wrong with the Wii or other existing game consoles but as the electronic components in tablets or smartphones become more powerful and as the capability to output tablet and smartphone screen images to larger display devices (HDTV - large screen computer monitors) become more prevalent, the stand alone game consoles might become a consumer "second choice" as the article postulates.

If mobile devices become the "game player of choice" for most of the buying public, I'm sure vendors will be quick to market add on controls or accessories that will duplicate control mechanisms found on Wii and other game consoles.

Indeed, if MS ever markets an Apple compatible Kinect, mobile game play devices will further erode the installed user base for dedicated game consoles, IMO.
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@rhonin

I haven't heard of third party wrist straps for the iPad but I hear that the iPad makes a great substitute Frisbee. Grin.
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@kenosha7777

"However, iPad users will shortly have the ability to stream mobile games to large screen HDTVs via Apple TV and iOS 5."

Which is interesting, except they're missing a few things:

-Game controllers.
-Games designed to use game controllers.

Sorry, but I seriously don't think I'd like be playing a game that is designed for a touch UI on a TV.

Also things they are missing:

-Games designed for the more core gaming market rather than the casual gaming market.
-The ability to use the latest technology in graphics. Mobile devices, due to the requirement they be thin and light, will never have the latest technology, because the latest technology will always require a big heat sink and fan.

It's not until sometime later that the latest tech can be put into a phone - and by then, there will be a new latest and greatest.
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No.
They have some problems to contend with, such as the need for high graphic capabilities, which of course requires graphic card, cpu, memory and a wapping power supply.
I'm a gamer of many years, and if I'm like many other gamers, i play for hours on end. And I use a high'ish end PC to do that. Portable devices can not compete, and there's nothinhg on the horizon that would suggest that they will be able to. If by some miracle they could make a mobile device which had the above capabilities, the age old problem of the battery power lasting would still hinder such a device, and therefore the device would need to be plugged into wall socket. Which of course would then make it no longer mobile.
So idea that it can replace a console or a PC in the near future is moot.
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This is another one of those "Death of the PC" articles. Could the iPad kill the PC? No.

Will the iPad kill the XBox? Again, no.

Are you going to play Rock Band on an iPad? No
Are you going to play Battlefield on an iPhone? No
Are you going to play Halo on a Windows Phone? No

Next...
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@Cylon Centurion Wow you don't get out much do you?

NOVA is just like Halo and it runs on iOS and Android.
There are games like Battlefield on the Tablets.
Umm, you can already play guitar hero so why not? Especially if the game allows Game Center Linking of Games so others with an iPhone or iPad can play the Drums or sing along with a Bluetooth headset.
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@Peter Perry

Serious gaming calls for serious hardware. Being a real drummer, if I were to drum on an iPad, I'd bust the damn thing. I've already busted up my rock band set pretty good.
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@Cylon Centurion
I don't know about that , a lot of people are content with very good graphics as long as the story is good.

Quake 3 runs fine on these and Resident Evil 4 had decent graphics on the iPad so, I really don't think graphics are a huge issue.
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For the most part, what the gamers want really does not matter. What matters is what the market as a whole wants.

All companies will go to where the money is. Already, the smart ones are going to where the money will be. More and more that is in mobile gaming. These games are simpler in nature, cheaper to develop but have very short shelf lives.

But there is an issue. Limited talent. The talent in the gaming industry is limited. Already you have the PC, Wii, PS2/3, PSP, XBox line,... These multiple systems were soaking up the vast majority of the talent in the industry.

Now add in iOS, Android, WP7, BB... At some point the talent pools dry up.

2009 was a sad year in PC/Console gaming with an 8% (to just under $19 bn) decline in revenu. Luckily 2010 saw a near 20% (to around 25 bn) gain. But that same year saw the iOS market grow 1.0bn This is a small fraction of console gaming but the entry costs are easier to absorb and the risks are much lower. The rewards are currently a bit lower as well.

But the question is in 5 years? Tough call but I could see the market supporting a single console game system at most and the died in the wool gamers market becoming to expensive for players (the problem of "good enough") to afford the top end cutting edge. Much of the new talent and existing talent is shifting to mobile (Id's engine and Unreal are shipping products on iOS today) already.

All this adds up to console gaming being a shaky financial proposition.
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Agree
Economister Updated - 9th Jul
@Bruizer

If the vast majority of gamers are "casual" and do their gaming on mobile devices, only ******** gamers will buy consoles. The economics of consoles may then not be attractive enough for anyone to cater to this market. If the volumes are too low, the prices would be too high for the business to be viable. It will not matter what the hard core gaming community prefers. The market may simply be too small for anybody to make any money in it. In that case, PCs may be the only "proper" gaming alternative.

It is also possible the technology will slowly keep chipping away at the advantages consoles have over portables. More and more people will abandon consoles and the economic conditions will again not permit a viable console market.

Edit: Why is h a r d c o r e banned? Is it a bad word?

Edit 2: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/john-carmack-playStation-xbox-tegra-gingerbread,news-11798.html
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Like people have been saying, right now mobile is good for same games, but I would not play halo reach on an iPad. That being said I am not a huge game and play on my iPad more than my 360. Here's the problem though, my iPad is good for college, Internet browsing, entertainment, etc, my 360 just does games. My 360 broke in Jan. with enough complaining I managed to get a free repair. (it RRODed after an update), but now my brother's just got the RROD. Are we going to replace it, most likely not. The PS3 you say? Where sony can take away features that were advertised (other OS) for "security reasons" and then suffer network hacks, no thanks. The wii? Maybe but give us a non motion centric way to play to
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@Matthewdnee Most of the wii games give a choice between motion and standard controls.
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Hmm... Which CPU to choose? AMD Athlon II 240e or AMD Phenom II X4 910e? What about GPU? AMD Radeon HD 6450 or Radeon HD 5770? Which PSU should I go with? 300 watts? 500 watts? 700 watts? Well, that all depends in hte game's system requirements, right? Well, some games are CPU-bound and some games are GPU-bound and that can be a very tough choice for those who are new to playing CPU-/GPU-intensive games. What about those who don't want to deal with so many keyboard mappings for FPS? Console gaming is a very good alternative to PC gaming.

In fact, console gaming should not go extinct. Want to play a game that is compatible with XBOX 360? No problem, if you have XBOX 360. How about a game that is compatible with PlayStation 3? If you have a PlayStation 3, that's not a problem at all.

For me, I won't buy games that are only made for portable handhelds, like Final Fantasy IV DS for Nintendo DS, as even with DS XL, I'd rather have a device with a 10" screen if I play DS games at home, but then I don't care if the text are so blocky or not due to my visual impairment.
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I think that we need new word "********" gamer.
This one want be satisfied with less than mouse|pad. And no smartphone can deliver that. Nor can they power 22'tv nor 22' LCD. Nor they can sport 1900x1600 resolution (and want be able to for a long time).

But casual gaming? Those devices gives new meaning to it.

And casual gamers happend to be in majority over "********" gamers. And with iOS, Android you can reach (almost) all of them!

So yes gaming on mobile platform is future, but it not mean end of consoles (unless consoles merge into PC), nor it mean end of PC. The same as consoles did not ended PC gaming (and there are uses when mobile physically cant repalce them, as consoles cant replace PC in strategy games).
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Back in the 80's the draw was playing your favorite arcade games at home but gaming hit a wall where innovation stalled...

In the Mid to Late 80's Nintendo returned some of the innovation by separating it from the Arcade for the most part...

In the early 90's fighting games were making the second coming of the arcade to home movement with the latest 16 bit consoles...

By the Mid 90's everyone I knew had moved to the PC for serious gaming and even today the controls are much more accurate on a PC...

The consoles made a comeback thanks in Large part to the likes of Microsoft pushing people towards their consoles and Sony Hype as Well as Nintendo's revolutionary but flawed controller.

The way I see it, Consoles have pretty much run through all the me too games that are on the market and the Tablet with keyboard and joystick support as well as the HDMi connectors will be innovative enough to drive most gaming in that direction.

Another thing, we are due for another decline in the gaming industry and the Console Manufacturers failure to keep fresh new machines and games coming will be the cause. If you think about it, Sony and MS trying to keep their consoles relevant while prolonging their life will ultimately lead people to other forms of Entertainment.

So do I think they will be Extinct? No but I do think their draw will disappear for awhile and then we will have the 3rd coming of the console market.
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RE: Could games consoles become extinct?
aberkae Updated - 9th Jul
Ah yes this topic comes up a lot lately,
Yes and no, why? Just look @ nvidias 's tegra line up, tegra 4 will have 8 cpu cores and 64 cuda gpu cores (dx 11 support rumored) launching next year, and tegra 5, and 6 in pipeline to follow.
With windows 8 and android 4.0 launching soon mobile gaming platform is inevitable!
Tegra 4 seems even more powerful than the next wii U !


Tegra 3 is more powerful than psvita as well!

Mobile gaming console platform is comming but it will be just another platform. For developers.


As for controllers check out logitech for mouse keyboard, and gamepads.
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@aberkae

The playstation 3 is based on a design that was before GPUs started moving to unified shaders. So there's really no good way to compare.

That being said, yeah it appears the tegra 4 will be more powerful than current consoles, if your information is correct (I was not able to confirm it).

But that's not so much a reflection of mobile vs consoles as much as it is a reflection of how badly out of date consoles are getting. If you were to put current tech into consoles rather than letting them get out of date, they'd beat tegra hands down.

My PC has a GeForce GTS 250. It's nowhere near top of the line, but it's about average for a gamer I think. It has 128 CUDA cores, so yeah it'll beat the tegra hands down. And it'll run rings around any console today. Only when the Wii U comes out will a console be able to compete with it.

The top of the line video card from nVidia is the GTX 590, which is screaming with 1024 CUDA cores. Against the gamer with lots of money to burn, there is no comparison - it's nearly 10x my own card, and my own card already beats the tegra 4.

"Tegra 4 seems even more powerful than the next wii U !"

The Wii U has a modified Radeon RV770, which has 160 shader cores and 800 stream processing units. Sorry, no dice.

Yes, mobile is getting faster. But today's desktops and the Wii U are screaming power out their ears, and there's simply no comparison whatsoever.
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@CobraA1 Ah, but what if the Mobile had Docks that made them consoles and the Dock had some type of SLI that worked with the Tablets GPU.

Personally though, I would like to see a new Tablet with an AMD APU inside as that puppy would have some serious potential.
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RE: Could games consoles become extinct?
aberkae Updated - 10th Jul
@CobraA1
true but the gtx 590 is a PC component not a console! we are comparing consoles here, obviously PC is superior (FTW).


Yes you make a good point about the wii u, but how many years does a console life? 5-10 years?

if tegra 4 is > more powerful than current console, but less powerful gpu than the wii u coming out next year, then eventually tegra 5, or 6 will be more powerful out just after 1-2 years from wii u launch.

tegra 4 does have 8 cpu cores as well and dx 11 support rumored, and Nvidia has the hearts of some developers.
while it might have a less powerful gpu than wii u, it might have a more powerful cpu, dx11 support , dev. support , and compatible to win 8 os ,and android 4.0. `

http://btechnews.info/nvidia-tegra-4-with-8-core-processing-directx-11/
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"true but the gtx 590 is a PC component not a console!"

My point is basically that the "power" of consoles is overrated because the technology inside them is very much out of date.

If they had bothered to update the consoles with the latest tech, it would be no contest.

So being "more powerful than consoles" is like saying "their display is better than a black and white TV." It's making a comparison against outdated tech, which is frankly a rubbish comparison.

"but how many years does a console life? 5-10 years?"

Used to be they were upgraded a lot more often. They are trending to be longer between new consoles. I don't think it was anywhere near that long between previous generations of consoles.
I think that what become extinct will be physic format.As in music,in the future we all will have games in HDD's,pendrives or memory cards and a disc will be unnecessary.It is still too soon,as we can see with the fail of the PSP Go,but it is the future.
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RE: Could games consoles become extinct?
dave95. Updated - 9th Jul
The casual gaming market is rising fast thanks largely to popularity of smart phones like the iPhone and now tablets like the iPad. Games like the original Farmville kickstarted things and now Angry Birds and others are continuing to introduce more and more gen users into the world of gaming. Many of these casual users are not interested in gaming consoles but will happily pick up a smart phone and tablet to play a quick game here and there. Or quickly download a social game to play with friends. As the number of casual gamers continue to rise, and mobile devices become more and more popular and capable, traditional console developers will feel it obsoletely necessary a market to target.

These mobile devices are not replacement for gaming consoles, the same way an iPad is not a replacement for full blown pc's. They're in their own space with the potential to easily outgrow the traditional markets in coming years.
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No...because the people buying consoles are of the variety that they will always buy consoles. Something like the Wii, aimed at casual gamers, might take a hit, but even then it'll still probably exist because of the family-oriented games that exist. As for a serious Xbox/PS3 player, they're always going to get a console equivalent to those.

There's also the same problem the PC market has. If you buy a PS3 game, it's guaranteed to work on your PS3. If you grab an Android game, there's a decent chance it'll be unplayable, depending on the age of your device.

Also, I'm laughing at the "Create a dock and add controllers" argument...mainly because this turns the thing into a console.
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Oh yea I totally love my Xbox controllers.
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it would b crap if they stopped making games consoles its all about playstation but without a games console how can you stay up all night chillin with friends online if they wornt around. mobile phones are to small dont last long (battery and hardware) and would make gaming crap. if sony ever pull out of the gaming industry then thats when you know gaming is going to be over as microsoft (who make a crap console) would also pull out most probably leaving nintendo around for a little longer and they would also go as as long as games consoles stay i dont care. and sorry to xbox users about the hating.
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Pads are the new consoles
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OK, you tell me that Angry Birds equates to The Witcher 2 for imersion and excitement? Even a console can not run that game well. As far as consoles go, the present generation is about done, the hardware is ancient and coding a game for the present consoles seems to be dumbing down most new games just so they will work on the old console hardware.
Just like console games are in the process of ruining pc games right now.
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