Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install (UPDATE)

Summary: The problem started a few weeks ago. I installed IE9 onto a system running Outlook 2007 and almost immediately noticed that Outlook started randomly crashing. I half-heartedly carried out some investigation and found that Outlook also crashed when I accessed Trust Center. This wasn't my main system and the crash was intermittent enough for me to decide to 'leave the problem for another day.'

As you can imagine, I run a lot of systems here at the PC Doc HQ, and these systems all have a slightly different hardware and software configuration, so when I get a crash on one system I don't expect to see it on all systems. Imagine my surprise when several systems start messing about in exactly the same way.

The problem started a few weeks ago. I installed IE9 onto a system running Outlook 2007 and almost immediately noticed that Outlook started randomly crashing. I half-heatedly carried out some investigation and found that Outlook also crashed when I accessed Trust Center. This wasn't my main system, the logs were of no immediate help and the crash was intermittent enough for me to decide to 'leave the problem for another day.'

Fast forward to today, and two other systems start displaying the problem. The common thread ... IE9 had just been installed.

OK, time to put my deerstalker on and do some sleuthing ...

... well, actually, no, the first thing I decided to do was be lazy. Since Outlook 2007 is now old, and I had enough spare licenses to upgrade to Outlook 2010, I might as well spare myself the headache and just upgrade. Surely that would fix things?

Nope. In fact, the problem seemed much worse, which Outlook crashing on startup.

Drat!

One benefit of upgrading Outlook to 2010 is that I could now access the COM add-ins without Trust Center crashing or having to dig in the registry and disable ... well, pretty much everything ...

... which didn't help ...

Hmmm, looks like I was going to have to do some sleuthing after all.

OK, so now I have one machine running Outlook 2010 and two other machines running Outlook 2007 where Outlook is crashing, all three after IE9 was installed. Even starting Outlook in safe mode (using the outlook /safe switch) didn't make Trust Center behave.

While all three machines are different, they also share a number of similarities in terms of antivirus, add-ins and applications. But the commonality in all three crashes was the installation of IE9 ... and that all three installs were Vista (two 32-bit, one 64-bit).

So to test I uninstalled IE9 off one system ... and Outlook 2010 starts behaving itself. The I did the same on another system ... and Outlook 2007 starts behaving itself.

Now, I'm not ready to call this an IE9 problem just yet as I have more investigating to do, but IE9 is certainly a trigger. A search of 'the Internet' for others with the problem turns up zilch (that's on any use anyway), so it's not a common problem. But then three systems affected by exactly the same problem certainly doesn't exactly scream rare occurrence either.

I'm not done with this problem yet, but for now my only salvation is to uninstall IE9 and see if I can replicate/duplicate the problem on another system.

Stay tuned!

[UPDATE: We're still working away on this issue along with some folks from Microsoft. One thing we've managed to rule out is the involvement of security software in the matter (which some people had suggested might have played a part in the problem.]

PS: Anyone else seen something similar? Let me know!

Topics: Collaboration, Browser, Enterprise Software, Hardware, Microsoft, Software

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  • RE: Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install

    Welcome back!
    BR999
    • Not seeing it myself.

      @BR999
      and I have installed it on Vista and Windows 7 machines, no problems like AKH mentioned at all.
      Will Farrell
      • Just got new laptop at work...

        @Will Farrell ... Win7, Outlook 2007. I upgraded to IE9. Never had Outlook crash, although IE9 seems kind of unstable sometimes. I get an IE9 crash about every day, but since I can just restart it (or run other browsers, which is what I normally do), it's not a big problem.
        HollywoodDog
      • Vista - There's your problem right there

        Sorry Adrian but when you use a junkware OS like that, you'll get junkware results.

        Try upgrading to Win7. ;)
        LTV10
      • RE: Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install

        Using Windows 7 x64 with Office 2007 32 bits and IE 9. No crash whatsoever until now.

        But isn't AHK supposed to be the "PC Doctor"? And he is so useless that he cannot fix this thing himself. Gee, so much usage of crApple products and so much crApple blogging is burning the few neurons he has.

        is this the new way to scare people away from IE9?
        nomorebs
  • RE: Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install

    yep - one of the fellas at work had the exact same problem - Vista 32bit, Outlook 2007, IE9. Only problem is that uninstalling IE9 didn't work. The system was no longer stable. Required a complete reinstall of Windows.

    Bah humbug with IE9 on Vista 32bit with Outlook.
    bump911
  • RE: Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install

    IE9 has a lot of problems besides crashing other programs
    i uninstalled IE9 it wiped out all instances of IE on 3 machines reported it to microsoft with all errors it reported they responded that they could not reproduce the problem so as far as they were concerned it wasn't a problem had to reinstall windows on all 3 machines have not put IE9 back on any of them yet.
    My experiences with IE9 while it was on my machines some sites to a long time to load then sometimes the pages popped up quickly sometimes it felt very sluggish and other times it was very snappy.They still have problems that need to be addressed
    larrymsn
  • RE: Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install

    I haven't experienced this with Outlook or anything of MS nature but did have issues with IE9 RC causing SAP 7.x to crash repeatedly which was fixed in the final release. I would also check to see what AV you are using and if any of them have addins to MS Office. We recently started using Symantec Outlook Vault which is utter trash and messes up searches among other things which I typically disable as it has thus far proven to be useless. I would not be surprised if it was an add in causing the issues and more than likely some AV addin that has not been updated by the manufacturer. I would try running IE9 with Office 2007 and or 2010 with all plugins disabled that are not MS and see if that resolves the issue. There also may be something being blocked during the install of IE9 calling on files it cannot find as the AV may have blocked writing to certain locations during its install so maybe disabling all AV during install may help as well. If it is Symantec or McCrappy then I would bet on that being the culprit.
    audidiablo
    • RE: Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install

      @audidiablo
      Same issue with 6 but only if running via SAP Portal......
      :(
      rhonin
  • RE: Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install

    No problems here, IE9 and Outlook have been tip top since it was installed. Must be obscure hardware or software on your PCs.
    Loverock Davidson
  • RE: Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install

    PC running Vista had an issue, virtual machine running Vista did not. PC running virtual machine dual boots XP Pro/ UBUNTU Linux and image version works both ways. Virtualbox machine had an MSI board the and the vista box that crashed was running an NVIDIA board. But don't know if that matters and don't care enough to troubleshoot it, I just loaded the Vista machine back with XP Pro and IE6. Only use it for Games anyway and I can always use the virtual machine if I need to Vista for compatability. Has anyone else tried loading it in a VM? Be interesting to see what happens, because if it works in VM it is probably a hardware compatibility issue.
    Socratesfoot
  • RE: Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install

    No problems here with a similar setup. Not a single Outlook crash since IE9 installation. (In fact, no Outlook crash since I installed Office 2010.)

    OS: Windows 7 64bit
    easson
    • RE: Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install

      @easson Me too!
      bvonr@...
  • Works fine with me

    I have IE9 installed on 3 machines:
    1) server 2008 R2
    2) Win 7 x64
    3) Again Win 7 x64

    Outlook works fine on all of them. No issues at all, though I have outlook 2010. Not sure about 2007.
    animageofmine1
    • I'm not sure which I'm more curious about...

      @animageofmine1

      A) why do you have Outlook installed on a server?

      B) why are you upgrading to IE9 on a server? Don't say because of security protocols; you're not supposed to be browsing on a server, period. And IE9 is not mainstream to be required by patch mgmt. compliance policies, yet (again, even if it was, it wouldn't matter because [i]you're not supposed to be browsing on a server[/i]) .
      UrNotPayingAttention
      • RE: Crash Sleuthing: Outlook crashes after IE9 install

        @chmod 777

        WoW. No-one told me I wasn't supposed to be browsing on my MS SBS - perhaps because, you DO need to browse on a server.
        tonymcs@...
  • Message has been deleted.

    theo_durcan
    • The problem with your solution is that it's even worse

      @theo_durcan
      since it's been proven so many times i don't even bother to count anymore that OS / browser ewmail client combos, like Ubuntu/Chrome-Firefox/Thunderbird or Mac OS X / Chrome/Safari/Thunderbird just don't work.
      I have seen people like you "claim" it does, but you can never reproduce your "shinning example" when asked. Ther's always some excuse why you can't (video card went bad, Ubuntu is crashing because of bad sector on hard drive, ect.)

      How's that?
      Will Farrell
      • "you can never reproduce your 'shinning [sic] example' when asked"

        @Will Farrell

        That's funny! Because I only use FF-Opera-Chrome as my browser whether it's on my Win 7 x64 Pro, XP x32 Pro, Mac OS-X 10.6.7, or ubuntu (FF only) laptops. Further, I use Thunderbird on all of the above as well. And yet I have had no problems. BTW DVDs play like a champ on my Mint ubuntu laptop.

        I do use Outlook 2010 or Outlook 2011 as well but only for my corporate messaging and that's simply because I have to.

        Is that shiny enough for you?
        jacarter3
  • Trying disabling hardware acceleration in IE9

    In "Internet Options", on Advanced tab select "Use software rendering instead of GPU rendering"

    The only problems I've had with IE9 was on one computer where it crashed constantly. I suspected it was the graphics card drivers fault so disabled hardware acceleration and it's been fine since. Could be the problem for you.
    cob1