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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Dell: The power of listening

By | May 27, 2011, 3:48am PDT

Summary: I think that it’s vital that big companies sit up, listen and take note of what consumers are saying. It seems that OEM giant Dell is doing just that.

I think that it’s vital that big companies sit up, listen and take note of what consumers are saying. It seems that OEM giant Dell is doing just that.

This from a piece on the Microsoft website:

Dell Innovation Driven By Customers

Last June, the company held its inaugural Customer Advisory Panel (CAP) Days event in Round Rock, Texas, inviting customers active in social media to work for two days side by side with company executives. Dell also recently launched a social media “command center,” where teams monitor and respond to conversations with people around the world.

“We use all this information not just from a marketing perspective, but to measure the performance of products and people,” Tatelman [Michael Tatelman, vice president and general manager, Consumer Sales and Marketing] says. “And it’s not just the ratings. We have people reading deep down into the posts and threads, looking for ways to improve our products and for new things we can do.”

Ratings and rankings are filtered by keyword and product, allowing engineers to translate the feedback and build the next generation of products.

Not only is it vital that the big guys listen, but that customers give honest feedback - both positive and negative. A company can’t respond if customers don’t say how they feel.

To be fair, while I’ve spilled a lot of negative virtual ink about Dell on this blog over the years, it is a company that listens and actively responds to criticism. Like every company, there are those who have their tales of woe, and sometimes you have to work at getting your point across, but on the whole Dell is doing a pretty good job. Good to see it taking things to the next level.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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RE: Dell: The power of listening
Cannabis Seed 31st Oct
@ploco@... Dell have always seemed to be more responsive to user feedback and criticism if mainly because of their largely corporate client??le. Its good to see that they are now looking like being more reactive to the everyday user as well.
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I just switched us from Dell to Lenovo. They have yet to fully listen on Latitude build quality and corporate model overlap period/deprecation policy. However they have significantly improved customer service. Alas it is too operationally impactful to have a dell tech visit one of our sites every day and have some of our users down for a day.
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@ploco@...

The Precision line is no better. I've got a M4500 that has the build quality of a Fisher Price toy. And it's a POS as well.
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RE: Dell: The power of listening
StupidTechZealots-23432415690276115908309621553360 27th May
@itguy08 I freaking love the Precision desktop workstations in the lab. We have three T7500. I don't have a single bad thing to say about any of them and would have no problem buying more from them again.
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@itguy08

You still think your opinion matters?
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And why should anyone believe you?
Will Pharaoh 27th May
@itguy08
No matter waht the article is about all we get from you is that:

All your Dell stuff has broken weeks months after you bought it.
All your MS stuff has broken weeks months after you bought it.

Do you really have a M4500?
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@Stocklone

Must be better than this M4500. This thing screams POS. The HP it replaced was built like a tank, as was the IBM before that.
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@ploco@...

I think the latitude E-Series are pretty solid laptops. The D and C series left a bit to be desired.

Their Optiplex line is OK except for the low end. The mid and higher end model numbers are built well.
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RE: Dell: The power of listening
alan_r_cam 27th May
@ploco@... Don't confuse "Listening" with "Hearing".
Dell set up a feedback site years ago: http://www.ideastorm.com/
They've been flooded with ideas over the years. How many have been implemented?

The Customer Round Rock Advisory Panel or C.R.A.P is another way of giving the illusion of listening, without actually doing anything...
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RE: Dell: The power of listening
Cannabis Seed 31st Oct
@ploco@... Dell have always seemed to be more responsive to user feedback and criticism if mainly because of their largely corporate client??le. Its good to see that they are now looking like being more reactive to the everyday user as well.
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They are cosing up shop?
itguy08 27th May
Or are they going to stop making garbage computers?

What?

Dell = POS, always has and always will be.
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If you were working in an IT datacenter with Dell, you wouldn't say that
Dietrich T. Schmitz, *~* Your Linux Advocate 27th May
@itguy08
We have Dell Platinum support--worth every penny spent.
Dell have their act together.
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz, *~* Your Linux Advocate
OK.. you must not be in IT... everyone that works with Hardware knows Dell is the worst, good luck talking to Indians with scripts when you need help..
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@Hasam1991

Actually this is one of the few occasions I will agree with DTM. My School District has been using dell for many years and aside from a few snafu's they have always given us exceptional pricing, sales service, and warranty/customer service.

Since I rarely have to call for support because I am a competent IT person they have always given us the parts we need very fast and the machines are reliable. Seeing as they get abused day in and day out from High School students shoving food, paper, and other childish things I think they hold up rather well. We had one bad line with a recalled motherboard and Dell extended the warranty on that board for an extra 3 years so we were able to catch most of them and have them replaced before we retired the line.
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StupidTechZealots-23432415690276115908309621553360 27th May
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, *~* Your Linux Advocate The government division of their support has been top notch. Definitely not just people with scripts.
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Is today April Fools?
ShazAmerica 27th May
Dell listens to customers? Better tell that to the University of Texas. When Dull knew thy had shipped millions of defective computers, and the university called to complain that their computers weren't working right, Dull told them they were trying to solve math problems that were too taxing on the computers! Math problems too taxing on a COMPUTER! LOL

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/technology/29dell.html?ref=technology

And let's not forget the thousands of posters to forums, still complaining about Dell's service, support, and the ever famous, elusive, 'sale' price honoring!

Let's be honest. Dell is a commodity manufacturer. The build a grey, non-descript box and put other people's parts and operating system inside of it. Then try to sell this box of parts at the most cutthroat price possible, because every other commodity maker makes the same product. So they have to use the cheapest possible parts inside, and hire the cheapest possible offshore support staff. They, and every other PC maker have to, it's the only way to compete when you make a commodity product.

Man, this made me laugh. Thank you, Adrian, for letting me start off my day smiling. I hope everyone has a great holiday weekend!
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SlithyTove 27th May
@ShazAmerica

The post was from around the 2003-2005 era when Dell pretty much hit rock bottom. Basically stopped doing support, cut every corner possible, and had zero design ethos. It's gotten quite a bit better since then.

The other thing is that all the big computer manufacturers now are using chinese contract manufacturing from multiple sources. So the build quality of individual machines from the same company can vary wildly depending on who built it, which line it was built on, etc.

The Dell of the last four years or so does actually make a strong effort to listen to customers and adapt to their needs. Listening doesn't always mean that they can summon magic pink ponies which give everyone everything they want with no cost. They still have to sell computers within a cut-throat commodity market. But it they can make tweaks to help customers that don't crush the ability to compete on price-points they try and do so.
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@SlithyTove
I wonder how many customers they lost for good during their rock bottom days, and how many of the same executives that created the coverup are still in management positions. Just like the predatory monopolists at Microsoft, just because unethical dirtbags are exposed, it doesn't mean they've changed their thought processes. They just learn to hide it better
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@ShazAmerica
you just exposed one here - yourself!

How "ethical" do you think you are? All you do is post hate and BS against MS and their users, even when the article isn't even about them.

I'd be ashamed to look at myself in the mirror if I were you.
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@SlithyTove
"The post was from around the 2003-2005 era when Dell pretty much hit rock bottom. Basically stopped doing support, cut every corner possible, and had zero design ethos. It's gotten quite a bit better since then."

Are you kidding? Our company switched to Dell about 3-4 years ago. D600's on the laptops and some junk on the desktop. The D600's pretty much fell apart after a year or so.

I've got a Precision M4500 and it's junk too. 0 design unless you count the fake alumunim plastic cover as design. You can see the wavy lines above the function keys where it screws together. The bottom is a cheap piece of tin that flexes when you pick it up. In short it screams cheap pos

Compare that to the HP/Compau nc series it replaced which still had 0 design but was built like a TANK. As was the IBM Thinkpad beofre that.
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@ShazAmerica

Uh.. This article is about Dell now... not 6 years ago. They had some bad moments back then. Companies do change you know. I mean Microsoft back in the 90's had some big issues and they too didn't listen too much. It took them many years but they have their act together now for the most part but somehow people still bring up mistakes of the past like they are still relevant today/
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@bobiroc
I believe for many the only thing they had going in their lives is that no matter how bad theirs was, there are others worse.

So as the others get better they either have to admit that and learn to move on and drop their hate, or do what many do - bring up the past because that is the only thing they have going for them today.
indicates they're listening. This is about as useful as one of Obama's "breakout" sessions where a bunch of eggheads or politicians sit in a room for three hours and return with the solution to the world's problems.
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All Dell's past work was not bad and people only remember the bad things and not the good. We seem to rotate here between Dell, IBM, and HP notebooks every few years. I will say the Dell latitude from 9 years ago still works properly and I now keep it in the workbench area for its convenient serial and parallel ports. Interestingly the battery still will last about an hour. It's good to have those hardware ports around for the odd job.

I would buy a Dell today.
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@opcom

Since my first "PC" was a Tandy and have purchased and worked on just about every brand since then I find that all of them have had their ups and downs. When it comes down to it if I had to choose an OEM to recommend to people Dell and HP still top my list. Some of their $399 or cheaper specials can skimp on a few parts and I find the part skimped on by most OEMs is the power supply.

I have had generally good luck with Dell and so has many of my family and friends but like any brand you are going to get the ones that love it or hate it. To me it is a Ford vs Chevy thing and I try to remain brand agnostic but I have opened up some really cheap computers. Right now Compaq and eMachine top my list and have been there for a long time. Opening most of those you can see the cheapest parts ever inside them but what do you expect for $300 - $400 a computer.

Overall I find all OEMs too limiting for my needs which is why I build my own with the exception of laptops of course. I have two laptops and 1 is a 5 year old Dell Inspiron 17" and a 13" MacBook that is a few months younger. Both have been good laptops but are getting old.
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Will pharaoh
ShazAmerica 27th May
As a true American that believes in a free capitalistic society, and that competition makes this country great, I have immense hatred and disrespect for Microsoft. And I have good reason and the facts, and their own damning testimony to back me up.

They sabotaged other companies work, extorted and strong-armed other good, law abiding citizens out of business.

If my rantings here make one person, just one person, curios about the antitrust trial and they read the transcripts and then if they start telling people about MS' transgressions, then even more people will hopefully avoid their products.

If you look in the mirror and are proud that you support companies like Microsoft, then I pity you, not me.
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@ShazAmerica
How can you claim to believe in a free capitalistic society in one paragraph, and reference the anti-trust trial in another?
Why does government interference in the free market make you proud?
The end result of capitalism: the company/person with the most money/power dominates those around it. Strangely, this isn't usually to the dominated's benefit...
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@Dalelaurd

I have read many of his posts and the so called evidence he provides is laced with bias and misinformed information. Don't get me wrong I am not saying Microsoft was a saint back when they were getting in trouble for some of the things they did and they are no saint now. I cannot think of any company or organization that is and that included religious organizations which are sometimes on the top of the list as the most corrupt.
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Daddy Tadpole 27th May
When I bought my fourth Dell about 4 years ago, I felt cheated by stuff that didn't work properly (DVD drive etc etc) and optional extras that turned out to be expensive crap.

At that time the newly-introduced Vista didn't help.

I won't buy another Dell until I see something that assures me that this time I'll get what I pay for.

The most expensive stumbling block to upgrading is still M$: should I buy W7 for a 4-year-old V*sta machine (I need pro to be able to run some xp stuff), knowing that the licence won't be transferable to a new machine?
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Who Listens At All??
MichaelWells 27th May
I wish OEMs would really listen, because it sees that they don't. I would believe that on the wish list of most computer buyers, Mac or PC; would be backlit keyboards and hybrid drives on all models except the super budget category. Also more customization options and include an option for discrete graphics on on most models as well. Just curious if anyone has any other wishes for their own wish lists.
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straycat5678 27th May
I have bought dell computers for years, and never had one fail me yet. mine just keep chugging along till they get to the point of being obsolete (give it away, get a new one) happy
life is good......
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Dell listen, my ass
N.H.N. 20th Jun
This is a complete joke of writeup, they havnt listened to me in 2-3 years of complainng about the total crap XPS 1340 systems, the worst possible laptop ever, cant even have BT enabled whilst wifi on, crashes wifi everytime you search or use BT, let alone many many other issues, replace parts with parts that also act the same, service staff are useless, CS is rock bottom, offshore idiots with a script, promise of new machines but dont honour squat

I wonder if zdnet just got a new sponsor!!!!!

How the hell can you possibly write this article without researching, please learn to journo properly!!!!!
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biancaann Updated - 5th Oct
I had the opportunity to work with Dell years ago before I moved to Amherst real estate for a few months. I don't like to sound bias here but Dell really has been doing a lot of things to improve their customer service. I am also a Dell user too and I am satisfied with the product/model that I'm using. I have a Desktop Dell and Laptop Dell in my apartment for rent but I'll get those once the moving truck rental is set to arrive. I think Dell has good computers and it's not too expensive too.
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