Do you want Windows XP on that Mac?

Do you want Windows XP on that Mac?

Summary: MacMall is offering all its customers the chance to own an Apple Mac that has both Mac OS and Windows XP installed on it.

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MacMall is offering all its customers the chance to own an Apple Mac that has both Mac OS and Windows XP installed on it.

“We are the #1 U.S. direct marketing reseller of Apple computers because we are willing to go the extra mile for our customers, and offer extensive solutions for their needs,” said Frank Khulusi, Chairman and CEO of PC Mall, Inc. “MacMall is the only large Mac direct marketing reseller we’re aware of marketing bundles of Apple’s new systems which come with pre-loaded software to work in both the Windows and Macintosh worlds as soon as they unpack their system.”

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It offers Apple customers what some seem to want - a choice of operating systemsMacMall is offering Windows XP Home or Pro on all MacBooks, MacBook Pros, iMacs, Mac Pros and Mac minis and customers can choose between using Nova Development’s Parallels Desktop for Mac or Apple’s Boot Camp Public Beta to handle the dual booting arrangement.  They're not the first retailer to offer this service, but they are by far the biggest and will give the dual-booting technology a huge amount of exposure.

I think it's interesting how utilities like Parallels and BootCamp are changing the Mac landscape (especially BootCamp, since it's free).  It offers Apple customers what some seem to want - a choice of operating systems.  It also gives those who like Apple hardware but who aren't too sure about making the switch to Mac OS an easy and safe way to experiment.

What are your feelings about dual boot on a Mac?  Does it make you more likely to buy Mac?  What are your experiences with dual boot Macs?

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  • Why, Apple performance is questionable at best...

    Check out the comparative speed test results over at [url=http://www.spec.org/cpu2006/results/cpu2006.html]The Standard Performance Evaluation Corporation (SPEC) website[/url]. Check out the CPU2006 results and see where Apple's dual core entry is.

    Note: SPEC is a non-profit corporation, and Apple supplied the data and performed the tests themselves.
    Scrat
    • I don't think that the average Apple buyer ...

      ... buys based on performance. But you make a valid point.
      Adrian Kingsley-Hughes
    • Misnaming the horse

      Since Apple was the only Core Duo machine on the list, what is
      actually being tested is the Core Duo CPU performance vs. other
      chip architectures. Now, if in a comparison of Core Duo machines,
      Apple was near the back of the pack, you might have an argument.
      frgough
    • SPEC performance is a small part of usable performance

      Unless you plan to use the machine as part of a render farm or a server, most users will only utilize the SPEC capabilities of a machine for a fraction of the time that they are sitting in front of it.


      I have worked on XP and Mac and I feel 100x more productive on a Mac. There is a minimum of cognitive friction and I spend a lot more time 'in the zone' and concentrating on the task at hand instead of wrestling with the software. I could probably measure a 25% increase in productivity. I attribute it to the design of the software and the capabilities of the hardware to recover quickly.

      I have used computers since the early 1980's. I bring my personal macbook pro to work so that I can work faster and in a preferred environment. I have 2GB of RAM in my macbook pro laptop. I run mac OS almost exclusively.

      The macbook wakes from sleep instantaneously. Open the lid, enter your password and you are back to where you left off. I use my machine for 8 - 10 hours per day and reboot it twice a month at the most - mostly for software installs.

      I hot-plug monitors and peripherals. Plug in a printer and print. Plug in a monitor and select a resolution - extend or mirror your desktop, analog or digital display. Put in a DVD and it plays. Attach a disk and read it. Plug in a network cable and use the network. Very little configuration. Very few lockouts for not having the proper driver.

      I have rendered a DVD, transferred files from a flash drive, used web browsers and FTP and listened to mp3s simultaneously without using more that 75 - 90% of the CPU. Nothing slows down. (As a caveat - there was to rush for the DVD). There is also plenty of leftover Ram. I am astounded by what this laptop can do.

      There are at least 2 ways to accomplish just about every computing task. Switching between programs is extremely fast. With one key press, you have an overview of open windows for a program or all programs - click and you are instantly working in that window.

      I can cut and paste and drag and drop from any application to any other application with few exceptions. DVD support out of the box.

      Lots of unix/linux based software that is available for low cost/free (legally!) that works extremely fast - gimpshop substitute for photoshop is a good example. Lots of 'fun' software.

      I have used the parallels software which lets you run multiple operating systems simultaneously. The intel architecture lets you share the actual processor - this is not a software emulation. You can also run Linux and I installed Solaris once as well.

      I use this feature less often now that there is a port of Open Office for mac.


      Chris Adams
      chrisAdams
  • Is this supposed to be Special?

    Setting up a VMWare instance of XP on Linux with VMWare Server is a 'piece of cake'.

    You can spin it up 'on demand' in 10 secs or less from suspended mode.

    I am not intereseted in XP on a Mac.

    But thank you anyhow.
    D T Schmitz
    • Very true

      ... from suspended mode on a reasonably fast system VMware is nice and fast.
      Adrian Kingsley-Hughes
  • Support hairball

    Selling XP on a Mac is one thing, supporting it is another. Is MacMall going to be doing support on these machines as well? That's really the reason Apple only offers BootCamp and doesn't sell computers with XP installed, it'd cost a fortune to do customer support for them.
    tic swayback
    • I'd offer

      A thin-client session to a back-end virtual server, e.g., Novell/SUSE running XenEnterprise 3.1, in a business setting, which would afford more control.

      Hard enough to do PC tech support on one Desktop O/S.
      D T Schmitz
  • YES!

    This was actually the main reason why I decided to switch to Mac! Studying for the Cisco Certifications is a hassle with a Mac - I can't run my Boson software, can't access the Network Academy website, and so much more! With Bootcamp, I can enjoy the benefits of having a Mac (read:a spyware and virus-free online life) and still continue studying for my certications :)
    rtcquibral@...
  • Windows on Mac

    I want to switch to Mac after years of using Windows and this seems like the easiest way to transfer my data and continue using programs I'm familiar with while I'm learning all that Mac has to offer. I will say that I've had some experience with Virtual PC on an older Mac and had trouble opening many data files but I'm not sure who was more at fault, the program or my limited computer skills.
    ricia
  • XP on Mac Pro

    I was in the process of buying a MacPro with dual boot, when I noticed that the MacPro cant run dual graphic cards like the the Nvida 7900 or the new GTX 8800 in sli like you can with an XP machine, so dual boot is useless to me.
    paulp.bassman@...
    • Every Mac Pro graphics card supports dual displays

      From the Apple website:
      "Every Mac Pro graphics card supports dual displays and at least one 30-inch display. For added graphics performance, you can choose upgraded, workstation-class graphics cards that can power two 30-inch Apple Cinema HD displays."
      chrisAdams
      • Not the same thing

        Dual display is 2 monitors on 1 graphics card. What the poster is talking about is using 2 graphics cards with [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Link_Interface] sli [/url] to improve 3D performance, typically only on 1 monitor (does it even work on 2 monitors?). These are 2 totally different things.
        NonZealot
  • Let's clear some things.....

    Mac's have been the standard in the graphics and design industry for years.
    A graphics designer myself, I was not really happy when I switched to Windows, back in 1996, due to the pricing policy of Apple.
    Since then I worked mostly on Windows.
    The Mac lost the speed train meanwhile.
    I could build a Windows PC with half the money and twice the speed.
    That time has gone now, Apple made a move to Intel (I would prefer AMD, but..).
    The speed went up, the price went down, but still I would not consider going back to Mac Os X ( a se-X-y OS, just to look at), because after all those years I got accustomed to Windows, and though XP has problems yet, I managed to tame them.
    With all these applications available for Windows, commercial and free, I'd like to but I could not switch back.
    And then Windows can be run on a Mac.WOW

    That made me see things from another perspective.

    I now cannot wait 'till next week for my Mac Pro to arrive.

    Cause no matter what people say or think, business is business.
    I will use the far more stable Mac Os X for all my graphics and design and use Windows for the rest of my stuff(games, etc).And there is a lot of stuff I believe Windows do better.

    As for support...

    Apple is not known for the best support, and seems like they are not the kindest to call for help,( it's a thing from the past they think they are better and above all problems, so it must be the user, not them).

    Windows... I am happy they wont support.

    Microsoft does.

    I do not know of anyone having software problems to call Dell, HP, or their local PC builder.
    They call the software vendor (Microsoft, Symantec, Adobe or whatever.

    So I see no big deal here.

    Now if Microsoft will not support Windows on a Mac, it should be a legal problem for them.
    They have to support any Wintel platform and Mac is one now.

    Thanks for your patience

    PS: Sorry for any mistakes, but English is not my native language.
    akaralia
  • Windows on a Mac Pro rocks

    I'm one of those lucky people who have access to what ever technology resources that they want.

    I have access to new windows laptops every 6 months but after buying a macbook for my daughter for university, I'm hooked on Mac.

    My work laptop is a lowly macbook and I find i spend a lot more time working, than fiddling with windows however, we live in a windows world so you can't be a zealot and pretend that mac can live on it's own.

    I still use OneNote (which I think is one of the best business software products ... ever-and nothing on the mac comes close). I do some programming on the mac but still need to do final testing so the rest of the windows words works. From that experience, I see that the mac world handles compute tasks smarter than the windows world.

    So, my mac's run parallels for 90% of the business processing and it works flawlessly. My Mac Pro runs windows under boot camp, and the few games that I play run faster than my last generation PC (8 months old).

    So at the end of the day, I am more than happy with increased productivity and fewer hassles. Sure it costs a little more, buying parallels and standalone windows licenses, but for a few hundred bucks, my life is made better, and the feeling lasts all year long.

    Windows on Intel Macs is good. It may not be as pure as what the Mac zealots desire, but the combination will do more for mac than any other factor.
    mmay
  • Windows XP on a Mac

    For 12 years I've worked as a graphic designer on a Mac. In the
    last 5 years, I've left the design work behind, well almost, and
    worked with a Windows XP laptop. Just recently, I purchased a
    17" iMac and have fallen in love all over again. The Mac OS is
    just the very best operating system available and brings back the
    joy of computing. Since I have the last 5 years invested in a
    Windows PC with a large variety of extras, getting this Mac with
    Parallels software and the free VirtueDesktops (http://
    virtuedesktops.info/), I can work full screen in Mac and Windows
    XP at the same time as well as have other virtual desktops
    available for special projects. What more can anyone want.

    The Mac iMac is a scream! Now the idea of working only in
    Windows XP no longer presents itself as a nondescript bore.
    Working with the iMac is inspiring me towards the creative once
    again. Computing can indeed be FUN!

    Jerry Sundberg
    jsundberg@...