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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

'Firefox with Bing' - You asked for it!

By | October 27, 2011, 4:44am PDT

Summary: Automatically set Bing as your search default AND homepage!

Was it YOU that asked for ‘Firefox with Bing’? I didn’t!

Yesterday Microsoft and Mozilla unveiled a joint plan to bring a new version of Firefox - Firefox with Bing.

Wait a minute … can’t you already choose Microsoft’s Bing as the default search engine in Firefox already? Yes, yes you can.

So what’s the deal here? Well, not only will Bing be your default search engine, but … wait for it … Bing will also be your homepage.

That’s it. That’s all that’s different. You can change both the homepage and the Bing search engine defaults … however … while I can seem to remove Bing from the search options, it reappears when I restart the browser. Worse than that, when I restart the browser a second time, Bing is back as the default. That seems naughty, even if people have downloaded ‘Firefox with Bing’.

Why come out with this? Well, according to Microsoft, you asked for it!

Last year, we worked with Mozilla to add Bing as a search option that ships with Firefox. Since that time, you have told us to make it even easier to use Bing in Firefox.

I didn’t ask for this, so I’m assuming it must have been you …

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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RE: 'Firefox with Bing' - You asked for it!
megamanx Updated - 2nd Dec
@GeiselS@... Sure, I agree. They are also doing it against Adobe with HTML5, so much for bundling their Flash program into Chrome just to work on something that competes, huh?

Also, yes, they have had failures, but Chrome is gaining ground, so its future is very bright. I'll have to admit it, even if I despise it.
I don't even use Firefox anymore.
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@esadajr

Nice to know.
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Go Microsoft!
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By making Bing search and homepage the defaults, and then making it impossible to make any change permanent, Firefox will start losing the market share that they picked up from IE. Firefox will no longer be the browser of choice for me, Chrome just went to the head of the class.
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@linux for me
This move is very suspicious folks.
No sane person would do something like that.
I suspect M$ placed sleeper agents at Mozilla to sabotage FOSS, just like they did with nokia:
http://techrights.org/2011/10/25/nokia-patent-aspects/
@The Linux Geek How do you get that tin-foil hat of yours through airport security?
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@The Linux Geek

Yep so much better to use the search engine from the advertising company - they're not evil, they said so wink
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Bing is awesome, sift through 30 pages of crap instead of just using Google and finding what you want on the first page...
@MacN.Neddy I can see you need to learn how to search if you have to look through 30 pages on bing to find what you need? When I search on bing it is in the top 5 results. This is a Firefox story and not so much a microsoft story. Go on Troll!
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RE: 'Firefox with Bing' - You asked for it!
Pete "athynz" Athens 27th Oct
@imsimsj You did of course read the headline, right? That Firefox is prebundled with Bing which is Microsoft's search engine... so yeah it is very much a Microsoft story as well. Go on Troll!!
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Or using Blekko
opcom 28th Oct
@MacN.Neddy Or using Blekko and avoiding the content farms and ads on that first page.
It's about time...I use both Firefox and IE and since Bing is my default on both its nice to see I don't have to keep getting rid of the Google crap. Besides Microsoft has always embraced partners unlike Google that used Firefox only to toss them to the curb and try to eliminate them with Chrome. At least with Microsoft Mozilla can have more of a future than what Google has to offer it.
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RE: 'Firefox with Bing' - You asked for it!
megamanx Updated - 2nd Dec
@GeiselS@... Sure, I agree. They are also doing it against Adobe with HTML5, so much for bundling their Flash program into Chrome just to work on something that competes, huh?

Also, yes, they have had failures, but Chrome is gaining ground, so its future is very bright. I'll have to admit it, even if I despise it.
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RE: 'Firefox with Bing' - You asked for it!
LoverockDavidson_-24231404894599612871915491754222 27th Oct
Was it YOU that asked for ???Firefox with Bing????
Yes it was. By having Microsoft Bing as the default search and homepage on Firefox that means I don't have to go to each machine with Firefox installed and change it manually. Microsoft is doing me a favor here. Not only that but Bing has the most relevant search results and I don't have to worry about companies trying to game the Bing system.
I am a bing user for 2 years and produces better results than google. I think the only disadvantage bing has is that it still doesn't have covererage in a lot of countries while google has more. But MS will be closing that gap pretty soon, once they roll out more data centres.
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I certainly did NOT ask for it. If this becomes some kind of "stealth" install via an update, Firefox is goes away. I've gotten sick and tire of Mozilla claiming "improvements" while degrading the product. I'll go back to IE9.0 and manually set "Google" as my default search engine and "blank" as my home page.
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Back in office land, MS had the research to say the vast majority of users never used any customization features, so it would make sense for them to court that same "Defaults fine" mindset that's so prevalent.
Looks like Mozilla is getting a bigger reward from Microsoft than Google
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Looks like it's Windows-only
none none 27th Oct
I get a "Sorry, this download is not supported by your system" message on the site no matter what browser I use.






happy
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Bing remains what it's always been: an inferior search engine.
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Re: Firefox with Bing - Who asked for it ?
Northeast & Atlantic RR 28th Oct
It sure wasn't me, either ! I'm hooked on Dogpile right now after giving up on my old favorite, Search.com.
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In the exec.
opcom 28th Oct
Maybe it is possible to go into the executable and break it. If there are links, they are often in plain text and that can be substituted if the length of the field is not changed.
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*I* didn't ask for it. I use Google when searching the web for my job. Bing simply doesn't bring up the same search results, and the top selections are NEVER what I am searching for.
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Some software installs...
Zorched 28th Oct
...the Bing Bar into Firefox and then it changes all that stuff on you, even if you didn't ask it to. This includes the default search engine for the URL bar. Have to go into About:config to change it back. Just uninstalling the Bing Bar doesn't fix it.

So, you don't have to download a special version, just add the bing bar.

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