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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Has Moore's Law caught up with the entire PC industry?

By | February 20, 2009, 8:21am PST

Summary: Cheap, low-powered PCs seem to be the consumer’s choice during these hard economic times. Problem for the OEMs is that the margins on these low-spec systems are razor thin. Has Moore’s Law caught up with the entire PC industry?

Cheap, low-powered PCs seem to be the consumer’s choice during these hard economic times. Problem for the OEMs is that the margins on these low-spec systems are razor thin. Has Moore’s Law caught up with the entire PC industry?

Go back five years and the laptop and desktop computer market was split into three distinct sub markets - budget, mainstream and high-end. While high-end had the highest margins, OEMs made most of their money from mainstream models. The margins for budget systems were low but since most of these were little more than junk, that seemed appropriate.

Fast forward to today and things are different. High-end still offers OEMs the largest margins, low-end the smallest margins, and OEMs still hope that mainstream sales will dominate sales of low-end systems. Problem is, Moore’s Law has driven the computing power of low-end budget systems to a point where they are more and adequate for the needs of the average user. In fact, thanks to Moore’s Law it’s getting to the point where low-end is the new mainstream, and since margins are razor thin for these types of systems, This is good news for consumers, but bad news for OEM’s bottom lines. And to make matters worse, even games aren’t driving the high end like they used to, which could well be down to the fact that many PC games are actually ports of console games, and all the major consoles are now getting a bit old and in need of a refresh.

It seems that this shift to lower-powered, lower cost systems could hurt Apple, especially if NPD data for January is accurate. For January the data showed that while for Windows-based systems the revenue unchanged compared to January ‘08, while for the Macs revenues dropped by a massive 10.4%. Another takeaway from the NPD data is that over the same period Mac revenues fell by almost twice as much as unit shipments, showing that people are now going for lower-priced units.

I have to be honest and say that I only see things getting worse for OEMs. Take netbooks. Even a humble system such as Samsung’s NC10, with its 1.6GHz Intel Atom CPU and 1GB of RAM, is more than capable of running Windows 7, along with a raft of the most popular desktop application. This is a system that costs around $450. Throw in a keyboard, mouse, external CD/DVD drive and a flat panel screen and you have system that’s an acceptable desktop substitute for many people. A year from now these systems will more powerful and likely cheaper than the current raft of netbooks. Before long you’re got a system that’s up to the demands of casual gaming, and then the budget and mainstream sub-markets will have merged. Again, good news for consumers (assuming that enough OEMs survive the bloodbath to allow for competition), but bad for the OEMs.

The sales pendulum is continually swinging, but right now it’s heading in the direction of cheaper systems. OEMs are going to have to have to get used to thinner margins and scrabbling for market share.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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Brilliantly designed and marketed crap.
fletchoid 8th Mar 2009
I work in a lab that was set up by a member of the Mac Cult. Over the past 7 years I have used a number of different generations of Mac computers and have come to the following conclusions: 1. The style and design of the computers are very snazzy and trendy, and the marketing is brilliant. Everyone that buys a Mac thinks they have bought the absolute best possible computer, and they feel sorry for the rest of us plebes that are unfortunate enough to have foolishly wasted our money on the vastly inferior PC. 2. The computer itself, the OS, and the software included in the OS are crap. I constantly hear about the fabulous quality and stability of the Macs, and yet, we are constantly plagued with crashes, networking problems, and random sensless spinning wheel of death. And to make it worse, the I.T. department of my workplace does not support Macs, so when a big problem we can't handle internally crops up, we have to resort to the rare and expensive outside contractor to "fix" our problem. True, the computers look cool. Their designers know how to put together a slick, chic package. But I constantly feel that at home, I get to use a state of the art, lightning fast, stable computer, while at work, I am using something 5 years behind the times. The main reason that Macs have gained popularity in the past couple of years, is due the the appauling travesty of Vista. It is such crap that die hard PC fans grumble about switching to a Mac, because they believe the marketing BS about stability and quality. Congratulations Micro$loth, you have boosted the sales of your main competitor. Personally, I will stick to home made computers, and whatever OS gives me what I want. For now, that is Ubuntu for most of my computing needs, and WinXP for the games.
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And to think...
gregory.dworak@... 20th Feb 2009
All of the idiots who poo poo'ed Apple for not making low-end budget computers. Once again, Steve Jobs proves he's ahead of the curve. Dell, Gateway and their ilk are doomed. Michael Dell should sell his company now and give the money to the stock holders.
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Re: And to think...
Cyrorm 20th Feb 2009
I don't even know where to begin.... Did you even read the article?
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Contributr
Can you point me to these low-cost Apple sytems ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes 20th Feb 2009
I'd really like to buy one.
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google mac mini
shis-ka-bob 20th Feb 2009
they are an adequate machine for many users
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A Mac Mini
soonerproud 20th Feb 2009
is hardly a budget computer especially when you can get a monitor and speakers included on a low end pc for less than $500. A Mac Mini is still going to cost around $1000 if you want to buy a new monitor, keyboard, speakers and mouse. That is hardly low cost.
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But wait
frgough 20th Feb 2009
I thought everyone said that Apple's big problem is that they wouldn't let
you keep your monitor, which lasts way longer than your computer.

So, which is it? You have to be able to keep your monitor, or the
computer has to be cheaper because everyone replaces their monitor.
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What does this
soonerproud 20th Feb 2009
have to do with the Mac Mini being a low end, budget computer? Do you have anything relevant to the conversation to actually comment about?
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The fact that
frgough 20th Feb 2009
one of your arguments was how expensive the mini became when you
had to buy a monitor, mouse and keyboard for it.

But, you already knew that.
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so what?
shis-ka-bob 20th Feb 2009
I have a perfectly good monitor and several old keyboards. I would like a new mouse. I have a mac from the 80s that still runs. My PCs from the early 2000's are in worse shape than the old Mac SE. Even if macs cost a bit more, they are built better.
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I repair an build systems
mjolnar@... 23rd Feb 2009
as a hobby. I rebuild older computers with the spare parts from upgraded machines. The PCs are not in bad shape mostly, just don't have fast enough components, kind of like the new Macs. When I get a rebuilt older computer put together, I give it to a charity group. I offer to keep it running for a year, but have had very few brought back to fix. The main reason they come in with them is, they want them faster.

Why would you keep a 80s Mac, you don't use it. My brother still has a Zenith TV from 74, it still works, every Christmas he takes me out to his workshop, pulls it out of a container in the corner, plugs it in, hooks up the antenna, it works. He only turns it on that one time a year, I'm thinking your Mac and that TV will fail sometime after I'm dead, but my brother and I will never know.
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Right off the Apple Canada website:

1.83GHz :
Combo Drive
1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB memory
80GB hard drive1
Ships: Within 24hrs
Free Shipping
$649.00

2GHz : SuperDrive
2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB memory
120GB hard drive1
Ships: Within 24hrs
Free Shipping
$849.00

Those prices are so incredibly just plain rotten I don't even have to go into how much cheaper you could have a much better Windows based tower built for you. If you need proof a much much better Windows tower could be built cheaper then you have instantly lost all credibility as anyone who has even a little tiny clue about hardware price/performance. The Mac Mini prices are just that horribly out of whack with reality.

To go for a computer with those overpriced "junk stats" you either have to be in love with the Mac Mini's weird little white brick looks or you just plain love Apple computers to the exclusion of all others so much so that your willing to shell out for over priced crap hardware if thats the cheapest they have and its all you can afford.

I can understand getting an Apple if its what you really want, or for some reason need, but the Mac Mini is a real powerhouse example of the premium overprice one pays to get into the Mac market.

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what about the graphics
atari8bit@... 23rd Feb 2009
You can run stuff just fine on a Intel or AMD duelie but if you get Intel 3100 graphics or a dumbed down Nvidia 9600 with 16 shaders or a ATI X3300 you're going backwards not forwards. All it would be good for is Hi def movies.
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www.baucomcomputers.com
frgough 20th Feb 2009
Or the Apple refurb store.

Savvy consumers buy used quality, rather than cheap new. Buy a
Mercedes, but buy it used. Buy an Apple, but buy it used.
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Buy Used
mjolnar@... 23rd Feb 2009
I understand that mentality. I sold used cars for 20 years. I would buy a 1 year old used car over the same thing new. The price makes it the only way to go. That is, unless you want new technology.

The car industry doesn't change that quick. Usually if you buy the same model 2 years apart, there will be a few options different and maybe paint, but not much else. That is an industry that runs on a 5 year cycle.

We are talking Computers now, that industry is on less then a 6 month cycle. The old saying "You buy a state of the arts Computer and obsolete before you get it home" is very true.

If you want to buy a Mercedes at a reasonable price, go to Europe, they cost about half over there.

People don't get rid of a 1 year old Mac just because they buy a new one every year. They get rid of a Mac because it is a problem child, or it no longer can keep up with their work. Either way, you are getting something unwanted for some what less then retail new price.
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over here, Adrian :o)
deaf_e_kate 23rd Feb 2009
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the Apple is Rotten
Mectron 20th Feb 2009
and as NEVER offered any value of any kind to anyone. Doing a budget system is impoosible for Apple, it goes agains Apple's prime directive: Everything we sell must be OVERPRICED.
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Not quite...
gregory.dworak@... 20th Feb 2009
Everything Apple sells is of the highest quality. That fact has been proven with steady market share and the highest customer satisfaction over any other brand. The facts are out there to prove my point. The fact that Apple was the only company showing huge growth and profits in 2008 says a lot. If people want cheap, low margin computers, they'll go with a bargain OEM system or if they have the know how, they'll build one themselves. If they want a fantastic out of the box experience and demand quality, Apple wins every time. Also like the one poster stated, there are some really great deals on open box and refurbished Mac's which can still be covered by AppleCare. I've saved my clients thousands of dollars, and they are happier with Macintosh than they ever would be with buggy, crapware front loaded, Vista installed OEM PC's. Don?t take my word for it, check for yourself: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?mco=MTE3NjY

Apple is all about quality and shipping machines with their very useful and elegant software. OEM's sell machines with a mishmash of crappy software and frustrating user experiences. Apple's market share increases can't be denied nor ignored. You have to ask yourself, how is Apple growing in a down economy, gaining market share while all others are in economic turmoil? My answer to that question is: Mac are of the highest quality, OS X is a very mature elegant UNIX based operating system, and Mac's come pre-loaded with some very cool and useful software. Plus, regardless what the pundits say, Mac users don't experience virus's, malware attacks, trojans, worms and other kinds of nasties you hear about from the Windows using community.

And my final point will be: Intel based Mac systems are the only computers that can natively run Mac OS X, Windows XP and Vista, and Linux. So to all you naysayer?s, buy what you want, I will always go with Apple.
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Smart comment, but only by half
Cayble Updated - 21st Feb 2009
Sure, Apples are quality built I will agree. I see absolutly nothing wrong with the quality of the workmanship that goes into any Apple products that I am aware of. The problem with your argument is that your secondary implications that low end computers by other manufacturers or home or custom built computers are of less quality then a Mac. You couldn't be any more wrong if you even tried.

It's one of the standard fall back Apple apologist defenses. Apple makes quality, and that is some how a free bonus for buying Apple because...? Why? The only explanation would have to be because anything else does not have that quality. And that is what is horribly wrong with your argument.

I would agree that there have been horror stories from any of the major manufacturer, they all have had some lemon boxes roll off the assembly line and that includes Apple. The proof of that is well known and wide spread and is easy as Googleing Mac problems. The fact is the best quality workmanship in a build you will ever get is a custom built Windows or Linux based tower put together by an experienced and reliable custom builder who guarantees their work. It beats the hell out of Apple workmanship every single time.
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Not quite...
bwchato 23rd Feb 2009
you can keep apple at any price,because they are all too high.i built my own pc that is the equivalent of a mac g5 but for half the price.i have never had any problems with it running Windows XP Home with sp3.no blue screens or other problems
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I work in a lab that was set up by a member of the Mac Cult. Over the past 7 years I have used a number of different generations of Mac computers and have come to the following conclusions: 1. The style and design of the computers are very snazzy and trendy, and the marketing is brilliant. Everyone that buys a Mac thinks they have bought the absolute best possible computer, and they feel sorry for the rest of us plebes that are unfortunate enough to have foolishly wasted our money on the vastly inferior PC. 2. The computer itself, the OS, and the software included in the OS are crap. I constantly hear about the fabulous quality and stability of the Macs, and yet, we are constantly plagued with crashes, networking problems, and random sensless spinning wheel of death. And to make it worse, the I.T. department of my workplace does not support Macs, so when a big problem we can't handle internally crops up, we have to resort to the rare and expensive outside contractor to "fix" our problem. True, the computers look cool. Their designers know how to put together a slick, chic package. But I constantly feel that at home, I get to use a state of the art, lightning fast, stable computer, while at work, I am using something 5 years behind the times. The main reason that Macs have gained popularity in the past couple of years, is due the the appauling travesty of Vista. It is such crap that die hard PC fans grumble about switching to a Mac, because they believe the marketing BS about stability and quality. Congratulations Micro$loth, you have boosted the sales of your main competitor. Personally, I will stick to home made computers, and whatever OS gives me what I want. For now, that is Ubuntu for most of my computing needs, and WinXP for the games.
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A few thoughts
itpro_z 20th Feb 2009
While I agree with what you are saying Adrian, this is certainly not a new trend. Systems have been getting cheaper for years. I remember when even a basic desktop would cost several thousand, and markups ran around %30. Over time, as systems became more powerful and cheaper, OEMs had to rely on volume for their profit. Today, any $500 dollar computer is probably more than sufficient for most people's needs.

That being said, most of us still pay more for our systems. Why is that? Well, quality for one. While a bargain basement computer may be powerful enough, spending more gets us a machine with better components, one more likely to run reliably for years. Especially at work, where we expect our machines to work hard for many years, better quality components mean less down time and less support. Performance is also better on higher end machines, also contributing to the machine being viable for a longer time.

With current economic conditions causing sales to decline, I would expect to see further consolidation in the hardware industry. We have already seen some second tier companies like Gateway fall by the wayside, while component manufacturers are also maneuvering for market share, as we just saw with Toshiba purchasing Fujitsu's storage division. Over the next year or two, we will see more companies either fail altogether or be absorbed by larger players.
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I agree about the trend
davebarnes 20th Feb 2009
In 1997 I purchased my first Windows computer for my home-based business. It cost $5347 including a 21-inch CRT. It came my local store, Computer Shack, and I am sure they made some good money. But, it had a Pentium 200MHz processor.

Over the years, I bought a new machine every 18 months and usually doubled everything and paid less.

Until 2005 when I switched back to the Mac and paid more again.

In 2008 I purchased a new 3GHz iMac with a 24-inch monitor for $2470 including a 3-year warranty.

Allowing for inflation over the years, my $7200 computer now costs just 1/3 of that. Only is 15x faster, the disk drive is 100x larger, the monitor is 60% larger and the warranty is 3x longer.

In short, Moore's Law is brutal for the manufacturers and retailers.
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Just had one built
mjolnar@... 23rd Feb 2009
Full tower, AM3 790 Motherboard that can take 32MB, Phenom II 940 Black Edition, 8MB OCZ PC3 12800, 2 Seagate 1TB Hard drives with 32MB catch, LG DVD Burner with lightscribe, Microsoft 4000 wireless keyboard and mouse, Acer 24" Widescreen monitor. I also got a card reader and a few other accessories, including Vista Ultimate, even though I will probably use Linux most of the time.

Your system cost $2470 with a 3 year warranty. Mine cost $2400 with a 3 year warranty.

Want to race?
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Except...
914four 25th Feb 2009
...his came with OSX 10.5 and yours came with Vista. I think he got the better deal.
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Apple is dooooooomed
frgough 20th Feb 2009
There. I said it for you.
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Better hope not because
GoPower 20th Feb 2009
Microsloth will have no business plan nor product ideas. Doh!

People have been making your claim for 20 years, and it's not happening anytime soon.
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Actually...
flatliner 20th Feb 2009
I can't tell if you're being serious or mocking...the wonder of postings.

Apple's current business model may indeed have a tough go of it. People AREN'T opening up their wallets. Banks aren't easing up their current tightfisted loan policies. Just about everything (aside from the foreclosure industry) is in contraction mode. I don't believe that there's any question that Apple's braintrust will have to rethink their marketing strategies for ALL of their brand lines from here on until the economy finally rebounds.

Of course it would help if we could first figure out roughly when this monster will hit bottom. I've gone through enough of these down cycles to believe that this one is going to be a rocky and painfully slow climb back up.
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Don't worry about it
frgough 20th Feb 2009
I'm sure the PC industry will quickly realize they can lobby
congress for a bailout, at which point the feds will determine
a fair price for a PC and ensure that every home has one.
Right next to the chicken in their brand new pot.
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Re: Don't worry about it
Cyrorm 20th Feb 2009
There is a huge difference between profits dropping in amount or arriving from an unintended source and complete failure of a company. Not everyone on the downslide is looking for handouts, nor is the government CURRENTLY trying to bail out evey bussiness that has dropping profits. Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one, no one's is the best by everyone's standards.
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Wells-Fargo
frgough 20th Feb 2009
wasn't failing either, and didn't want TARP, yet they were forced to take
it.

Some opinions are based on fact and observation. And those are the best
ones by any standard.
Relative Gobbledygook.

And your wrong about:

"Some opinions are based on fact and observation. And those are the best ones by any standard"

The fact is that the vast majority of opinions, however biased or crappy they are, are based on fact and observation. Most things that are said that are not based on fact and observation are either suppositions, fairy tales or lies.

Opinions that are not colored by personal bias, misinformation, lack of information, poor observation, misunderstanding, wishful thinking or stupidity are the most valuable opinions, and thats just my opinion.

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Too funny
LiquidLearner 20th Feb 2009
Sadly you're probably right. Once the government begins to fund free market the cycle is going to be almost impossible to break. I mean, if the government is going to pay for converter boxes to make sure everyone still has TV I don't see it long before it decides everyone needs mediocre internet access and a crappy PC. I guess I missed Television being in the list of inalienable rights.
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From Stodgy To Quick Sales
jabailo1 Updated - 20th Feb 2009
That's half the trend, yes, indeed, the decline of Microsoft is the death of Moore's Law. Their profits were always tied to building an OS for ever more powerful desktops. The netbook trend you describe implodes their business model.

However, cheaper means that consumers are more likely to buy -- and also to replace! Instead of making one big purchase of a $2000 desktop that becomes obsolete in 3 years, you may now go to Wal*Mart once or twice a year and pickup the trendiest Freescale netbook with the jazziest Linux distro and apps.

The other cool thing is that the web, web services, blogging sites, phpbb sites and other content providers will get a bigger and bigger audience as the linux netbook becomes the "third arm" of almost everyone.
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Bad grammar and repetitive phrases.
grammerpolice 20th Feb 2009
Re-read then press submit! come on!
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RE:Bad grammar and repetitive phrases
Daiv_Skinner 23rd Feb 2009
I'm certain you haven't a clue, but commenting on grammer is really trollish behavior. If you understand what a person means make the interpretation in your own head and move on, rather than bother the rest of the readers.

Everyone knows the rest of us would rather listen to a bunch of fan-boys bicker about who is best; Windows, Linux, or Apple. . .
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I just bought an Eee PC 1000H this past week and put Windows 7 Beta Build 7022, $330 for the unit and another $40 for 2GB of RAM. Very useable for surfing the web, Office 2007 runs well on it and Aero even. Hooked a monitor and keyboard up to and well the experience takes a bit of dive. These things have tough time driving 24" displays natively. But for what they are, lower end machines that are cheap and portable, they are great. They can work as primary system for people who use their systems for small stuff but they are going to work for everyone by a long shot.

When I see stories it reminds me of that famous remark that Bill Gates may or may have not made but I think we have to recognize that computer power is far more easily absorbed than we think. Remember, the cheapest netbooks now have almost 1000 more RAM than we'll ever need.
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Applications
bryantrv Updated - 21st Feb 2009
Despite the best efforts (see Vista) to require faster hardware, there really isn't a need (other than "eye candy") for more power.
3D desktops a la Aero, Compiz, Beryl, etc. are nice and look good, but they really don't boost productivity.
IMHO, a next (probably inconceivable now) generation of applications might require the power, but what will that be?
Other than games, multimedia applications might do it, or more advanced things like a true 3D display, voice recognition, or......

On edit- FWIW, I paid right at $5,000 for my first computer with add ons- an Apple II+ with 2 floopy drives, printer, monochrome monitor and an Aplha Syntauri/Mountain music synthesizer.

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3D can help productivity.
TripleII-21189418044173169409978279405827 21st Feb 2009
While I agree that most of the effects (wobbly windows, etc) are pure eye candy, two effects have helped. The first is the cube desktop switch. It has finally put to an easy to understand visualization behind virtual desktops. I have always told my users the imagine flipping between monitors, you can only see one. A friend saw me switch desktops the other day (KWin) and they said "That's what you meant!" They then played for 10 minutes opening apps and spinning the cube. grin

The other one is mouse upper left hand corner, all open apps displayed on the screen in thumbnals, pick the one you want.

TripleII
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OK...
bryantrv 22nd Feb 2009
I can see that it might help in visualization, but simply having an extended desktop is pretty good- and far less resource intensive. With good hardware I could imagine it helping, but I would always want that second chopped off of application loading time first happy.
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Memory
mjolnar@... 23rd Feb 2009
in Linux is all used all the time. I have 8MB with a Phenom II 940, 3D doesn't slow it down at all. With a Mac, because they use outdated CPUs and limited memory, I can understand they wouldn't want the nice stuff because it would slow them down. You just can't get the kind of power in a Mac that a true hot rod wants.

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I don't consider them eye-candy, except for Flip 3D. Flip 3D slows down my productivity just a tiny bit... If only the animation is a bit faster.

I use Alt+Tab instead. I can switch from app to app much faster.
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But..
bryantrv 22nd Feb 2009
Maybe I'm missing something, but Alt+Tab switches between applications for me, using no 3D effects. I also have snapshots of applications in the taskbar, (just snapshots though- not live pictures) with no added load.

Don't get me wrong- I like 3D stuff, visual effects and all, though it's probably that I'm an old fud (and set in my ways).
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If there's no money to be made in low-cost PCs, then nobody will make them. If there enough money, but only for 2 competitors, then it will come down to 2 companies and everybody else will drop out. Seen any new IBM PCs for sale?

I expect all of the US PC makers to get completely out of the business in the next 3-5 years. They may sell "branded" models, but they will all be made by the same 2 or 3 companies in Taiwan and China. If "cheap" is all the customer will buy, then "cheap" is what they will get, no frills, no quality, just volume.
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Netbooks killed Moore's Law
greg.lambert@... 23rd Feb 2009
I was wondering when this was going to happen. At some
point, fast was going to be "fast enough". You have a
system that did not constantly make you yearn for more
speed, more RAM, more something ... as long as the
system responded reasonably and that dreaded hourglass
disappeared. It could be the Netbook "thing" where
"casual computing" replaces "personal computing".
Maybe enough is enough?
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You keep writing about how games
mtgarden 23rd Feb 2009
no longer drive sales like this is a bad thing.... happy Since I am just getting my system upgraded from a 6 year old system to a mid-range box with a 9800GT, I am excited to be able to finally play the modern games and excited to know that I will be able to play the games of the next year or two at least.

So for some of us, this just allows us to catch up to the gaming market without spending bucketloads of cash.
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The commoditization of the PC ...
mwagner@... 23rd Feb 2009
This isn't about Moore's law. This is about the fact that software always lags hardware.

Windows XP was on the market for so long that even low-end systems would run Windows XP (and most of its applications) exceptionally well.

Expectations were set too high for Vista and MS screwed up calling 800MHz, 512MB systems "Vista Capable". Dumb, dumb, dumb! (Sure my 2000 model Dell Dimension 4100 ran Vista but boy was it ugly!)

Now, Windows 7 will be released before the end of 2009 and literally every desktop/laptop/notebook/netbook sold today will run it WELL (and so will my oldest system (a somewhat lame 2005 Dell laptop).

Microsoft is in a bind because, in order to differentiate between an entry-level system (under $500) and a high-end system (over $1000), some great advances in software will need to take place to take advantage of all that dual-core hardware. Unfortuntely, neither ISVs nor MS are very interested in ignoring the huge number of Windows XP systems still in service.

In other words, to get people to buy those high-margin systems these days, someone is going to have to sell some software that requires that kind of horsepower to run well.

And, as happens every decade or so, a bunch of hardware vendors are probably going out of business (or they will be bought up).
Having been a computer instructor for the past 20+ years, I would be a rich man if I had a dollar for every time a student and/or parent asked me for buying advice. I have ALWAYS given them the same advice, even way back in the 80's: (1)figure out what you want the machine to do for you, and then go buy the cheapest thing that does it well. (notice, this may not necessarily be the overall cheapest product, because you want it to be done WELL) (2) As long as it still does what you want it to do, it is not obsolete. (3)Once you decide that your computer is not capable of doing something that you need it to do, go back to buying tip #1.

Regarding all of the talk about Apple, why are so many people so insecure about what OTHER people buy? If people want to spend their money with Apple, or not, what business is that of anyone else's? If I want to spend my money on an Audi, I don't need to hear from someone else that I could have bought something else that would have done the same thing, but cheaper. YOU go buy that and let the others enjoy what they decided to spend their OWN hard earned money on.
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nobby57 23rd Feb 2009
As the owner of a Dell Mini 9, I can say that Adrian has it right. Before I got the Mini (running Ubuntu) I thought it would be a travel machine only. I knew a bit about Linux but figured I had to keep my Windows machine for heavy lifting. This little beast has indeed been great for travel/coffee shop use, but I've discovered that it has the speed and capability to handle any office work I've thrown at it. I've considered dual-booting an nlighted XP but frankly haven't needed it yet.

The only knocks on netbooks are the screen size and keyboard issues. I hooked this thing up to a keyboard and LCD at home and, voila, office machine. Perfectly capable. I can do the same thing at work if I want. On the road I have to compromise with the screen and keyboard, as mentioned, but am more than repaid by the extreme portability and ruggedness (no moving parts).

To me this is the "very good", if not the "best", of both worlds. This sub-$500 machine is all I need. Ubuntu is doing fine. The money I saved is going to a USB 3G so I'm not dependent on WiFi. If a must-have refinement comes out next year, I can take afford to take advantage and buy a new one.

Two points, Adrian!
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Narg 23rd Feb 2009
First, a new computer segment does not negate Moore's law. That's some pretty thin headed thinking.

Second, XP, Vista and W7 all run just fine on the Atom processor based machines. So well, that using any OS of any size or power works with no problems at all. Linux was only used on machines with dinky SSD drives, so a larger more robust OS was not doable. SSD drives are now very large, and can handle Windows loaded with Office and a slew of other applications, and still have room to work and store many documents and other files. Some nebooks are even shipping now with platter based hard drives of up to 160 gig. So where's the space problem? There's obviously no power problem. So falling onto a toy OS like Linux serves nothing here.

Considering the size of the Atom chip, I'd say it falls into line with Moore's law very nicely. The power equates to the size of the processor in a way that meets Moore's law just fine.

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