Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

Summary: I think that keeping software updated is important if you want to keep the bad guys off your system. But I hate it when companies try to use this as a mechanism for pushing new (and possibly unwanted) software onto a system.

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I think that keeping software updated is important if you want to keep the bad guys off your system. But I hate it when companies try to use this as a mechanism for pushing new (and possibly unwanted) software onto a system.

Take Apple's iTunes. The latest update brings with it 57 bugfixes. That's the sort of thing that makes me sit up and pay attention, and then reach of the software updater. But look what I find when I run Apple's Software Updater:

Why is Apple trying to push Safari 5 onto my system? Why is it pre-checked? New software isn't what I call a software update.

Come on Apple, I know that times are tough and that Safari market share is pretty poor, but this is pretty low. People might start to think that you're taking advantage of your shoddy code to improve another product's market share!

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  • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

    uncheck it. done.

    i have not used iTunes in this century.
    tatiGmail
    • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

      @tatiGmail
      Good call!
      Droid101
    • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

      @tatiGmail <br>If their updater would just remember that I unchecked it last time it tried adding it to an update, it wouldn't be an issue. But, the updater seems to periodically "forget" what I've unchecked in the past (not on every update, but it does occasionally forget and require that I then notice so that it can be re-unchecked).

      Not a huge hassle to uncheck it again - but still an added annoyance.
      DBEvans
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @DBEvans
        Select unwanted updates in Apple Software Updater, from "Update" menu select "Ignore Update...".
        philip.robar@...
    • Edit/Update: people say Apple indeed autochecks &quot;new software&quot;

      @tatiGmail: Apple auto-checked "new software" only for short period of time when Safari was introduced <b>years</b> ago. Since then, there is no autochecking.
      DDERSSS
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @denisrs

        Fail.
        mrmaps7
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @denisrs

        Your are delusional, they autocheck all the time.
        Timba1336
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @denisrs
        Naw. Everytime I get an Apple update it wants to install Safari or some other program. MS isn't innocent on this. Since when is Live Essentials a critical update when you didn't already have it?
        boomchuck1
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @denisrs If by <b>years ago</b> you meant <b><u>three minutes ago</u></b>, you would still not be accurate. My wife uses iTunes and I had to uncheck two 'new' items during the update process.
        Letophoro
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @mrmaps7, Timba1336, boomchuck1, Letophoro:

        Really? If so, then Apple back-pedalled their change. There was small scandal back then with Safari being autochecked. Then Apple removed this. If they do it again, then it is news to me and it is plain wrong.
        DDERSSS
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @denisrs
        No, it is still this way.

        A uncomputer-savvy relative of mine recently installed iTunes. Apart from all the extra (potentially unneeded software) it installs by default during the installation (e.g. Bonjour...), he magically got Safari on his system aswell.
        That was last week.
        xnederlandx
      • That is wrong

        @xnederlandx: the only "excuse" Apple has is that Safari is not that horrible application comparing to stuff MS pushed all the years similar way. But, again, it is not really excuse since autochecking is wrong anyway.
        DDERSSS
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @denisrs Looking at mine right now it is auto-checked, sorry fella but Apple is always pushing new software.
        Vasiliw
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @denisrs
        >"@xnederlandx: the only "excuse" Apple has is that Safari is not that horrible application comparing to stuff MS pushed all the years similar way."
        Really? Why would anything that MS may have done be an excuse? And why is it that every time someone has a criticism of Apple, someone chimes in with, "Oh yeah? Well it's not as bad as Microsoft...."
        scrumptulensence
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @denisrs They still autocheck.

        And software UPDATE should be just that: UPDATE. Not "pick up all the new crap they put out."
        MikeR666
    • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

      @tatiGmail <br><br>I have Windows and a Windows Phone, no need for any Apple software, if you make sure you don't put buggy Quicktime on. As for iTunes and Safari, someone is joking surely.

      Of course the real problem is bundling Quicktime with iTunes for those Windows users uninformed enough to use Quicktime.
      tonymcs@...
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @tonymcs@...

        Or perhaps the real problem is those uninformed people who don't understand that Quicktime is both the audio and video playback system for iTunes, which is itself a media player.

        Can you tell me how to install Windows Media Player without having to install all of that .wmv playback stuff?
        msalzberg
      • RE: Hey, Apple! Stop pushing 'new' software via Software Update!

        @msalzberg It's called a shared object... Have you ever heard of it? On OSX and various unices the file extension is .so. In windows it's a .dll. All they should be doing is distributing the necessary shared objects or libraries to play their crap. It's part of designing things to be modular.
        snoop0x7b
    • Wow impressive

      How's that puke green zune working out for you?
      @tatiGmail
      GoPower
  • Apple needs Safari and Quicktime on computers

    because there are far less secuirty holes in Windows, so they have to do something to compromise Windows, make MS look bad somehow, so they'll do it through their own software.

    Otherwise, why would you buy a Mac
    Will Farrell