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IE9 beta can't halt Internet Explorer share slide

By | October 4, 2010, 6:44am PDT

Summary: Data released by NetMarketShare for September shows that the usage share for Internet Explorer continues to slide, dropping to its lowest level this year.

Data released by NetMarketShare for September shows that the usage share for Internet Explorer continues to slide, dropping to its lowest level this year.

Internet Explorer’s usage share how 59.65%, beating this year’s previous low of 59.75% set in May. Microsoft might have been pleased with the 6 million downloads of the IE9 beta, but this only translates into a 0.34% usage share. While IE8 enjoyed an increase in usage share, the browser is being dragged down by users migrating from older versions.

Firefox, Safari and Opera all held their ground well, while Google Chrome jumped up nearly half a percentage point to 7.98%.

I look foor trends rather than data points in these numbers, and it’s clear that IE is trending downwards!

NetMarketShare uses data captured from the 160 million unique visitors browsing some 40,000 Web sites it monitors for clients.

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RE: IE9 beta can't halt Internet Explorer share slide
ryanstrassburg 5th Oct 2010
@Naryan
You know, it is rude to criticize without notes for improvement...
Firefox, Opera, Safari, Chrome.
@DonnieBoy
Seriously Donnie - you don't use Windows. So how would you be using IE 6? They didn't make a Linux version. Nor an OSX version. So what ARE you blathering about?
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Gee, maybe because, I don't know, its beta!!! You do know what beta is right? Somehow I don't think you do. The same was true for any browser in beta status, you aren't going to find a real uptake in it until it hits release. This is a stupid article only here to get page hits because AKH needs Christmas shopping money.
@Loverock Davidson

Actually I think he does know what a beta is: all of his articles read like a beta. Spelling mistakes, grammar etc.

I honestly don't know why I continue to read them. I used to really enjoy them for the most part. Lately, I feel that I can scan his headline and then skip the single paragraph of 'analysis'.
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Masochism, perhaps
OS Reload Updated - 4th Oct 2010
I suppose Masochism explains why you honestly don't know why you continue to read AKH's articles.

More, Masochism and Masochism alone also explains why you persist on using windoze despite the pain it is inflicting on you and the overwhelming evidence that it will always remain that way.
@OS Reload

Sorry OS Reload. I haven't heard of this 'windoze' that you speak of. Perhaps you can find it in the same store packed with 12 yr olds that sells iTurds and Linsux machines.

As for reading AKH, at one point I did enjoy learning about new things that I hadn't heard about and reading his opinions on tech issues.
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Now you did it, mep01378
John Zern 4th Oct 2010
OD Reloads probally throwing chairs around screaming "How dare they call it Linsux!!"
wink
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What a stupid response
OS Reload 4th Oct 2010
Just how will the migration from the PC to smartphones help IE, could you tell us?

IE is a non-presence on smartphones so I'm wondering just what you think MS will do to change the situation once IE comes out of beta.

Your stupidity knows no bounds.
@OS Reload You are TRULY clueless. I re-read and re-read Davidson's post for some reference to Windows Phone 7, and there isn't one. IE9 is not a phone thing, (IE 7 will actually be the closest thing to what runs on Windows Phone 7) so your last comment is right on, but pointing at you.
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Your OS Reload knows no bounds

Just curious.
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it may be lower
d.marcu 4th Oct 2010
i don't trust the netapplications statistics. Why? They measure how many websites are visited. A virus opens 20 webpages, you are counted as 20 users. Another example: Everyone knows that symbian has the majority smartphome market but iOS has the bigger cut in their statistics.
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I didn't know that Symbian made...
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 4th Oct 2010
@d.marcu... Smart Foam. wink wink
@d.marcu

And how many of the Symbian based Nokia phones supply a browsing experience that would tempt anyone to use their phone to browse the web more than one time?
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WTF... This article has nothing to do with phones...
ryanstrassburg Updated - 5th Oct 2010
@DNSB
@d.marcu What is the point of having a device if it isn't used as much? Linux could have a huge market share of PCs, but who cares if they don't indicate revenue.
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Let it slide
OS Reload 4th Oct 2010
Watching it slide is lots of fun. I'm loving it!!!
@OS Reload : You'll have a very long long wait watching IE "slide". Meanwhile Firefox has slid over the year and the remaining browsers haven't done much either. Safari has gained only because of the iPad. Other than that Safari is a buggy piece of smelly crap.
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Who really cares?
trickytom3 4th Oct 2010
I couldn't care less who provides my browser, as long as its free and stable. Otherwise, it's like worrying about what shoelace manufacturer has more market share.
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I guess that rules IE out
OS Reload 4th Oct 2010
as IE is not free.
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@OS Reload, IE is free for Windows back down from Windows 3.1 to current versions of Windows Vista and 7.

Do you have to download to use IE in Windows 95b, 95c, 98, 98SE, Me, NT 4, NT 5 (Windows 2000, XP), and NT 6 (Windows Vista, 7)? NO!

You need to study the history of Windows before you make such statements. happy
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Actually
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 4th Oct 2010
@Grayson Peddie... IE9 will require that Windows Users upgrade to Windows Vista SP2, minimum. So if you have a Windows XP Machine, IE9 will cost you...
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@OS Reload : I guess yuour allegiance is with some Linux OS [combined OS marketshare flatlined at around 1.15%. Yes you picked a winner! Free doesn't always mean perfect. Otherwise Linux would be doing better. Or maybe you are just anti-Microsoft in anything?

@JM1981: You got it wrong. IE9 won't be available for Windows XP. XP is in extended support - which means it generally only gets security updates. Last I heard you need either Win 7 RTM or Vista SP1 or SP2. These are the currently fully supported desktops.

Oh a reminder. Microsoft supports an OS for [at least] 10 years. Apple doesn't. No Linux distros either [maybe unless you have enterprise support].
@OS Reload
Correct. IE is part of the purchase price of Windows and is not free. Also included in Windows (and not free) are Notepad, Calculator, Solitaire, Messenger, Movie Maker, etc. Just because something is bundled into a product doesn't mean it is free, it still has a cost.

I really wanted to reply to Grayson Peddie's post below but this silly board does not have a reply button under his post.
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Flatlined...?
Wolfie2K3 5th Oct 2010
@Gis Bun
Last I heard, Linux as a desktop OS actually DROPPED back down to 0.9%. Whee.. They've got a slide too!

@mystic100
What you say is technically true, however, they do not charge for new versions of IE that are compatible with the currently installed version of Windows. In other words, XP came with IE 6, but the upgrade to IE 7 and IE 8 were FREE of charge.

Vista came with IE 7 and the upgrade to IE 8 was free. When IE 9 is released, three guesses how much it will cost - and the first two don't count. That's right. It'll be FREE...
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Anyone can use IE on the desktop
nucrash 5th Oct 2010
@OS Reload WINE can run IE on Linux, IE once ran on Mac, and technically, anyone who runs those two platforms didn't pay Microsoft. So, that would make IE free to them.
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You should care
SpikeyMike 4th Oct 2010
@trickytom3 ....
As a history example - remember when Microsoft was dominant? Say 'Good-Bye!' to open standards. Bye to competition. So-called 'innovation' grinds to a halt once the competition has been eliminated.

It's VERY important who provides your browser.
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Very much agreed.
nucrash 5th Oct 2010
@SpikeyMike Agreed, much like who provides your search results and your online purchases. As Microsoft lost control over the browser market, they also lost control over the online development market which then further lost control over the mobile device market and further lost control over the social networking market which further lost control over various other flavors of vendor lock-in which is causing them more and more headache.
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http://gs.statcounter.com/
Chrome is growing, rest is staying flat
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Isn't the answer obvious
pauliw25 4th Oct 2010
Well let's see. One - IE9 is a beta - and Two - 85% of the Windows market can't use it because it won't run on XP - unlike like Foxfire 6 beta. Gee - what does Foxfire know that MS hasn't figured out?

Duh!
@pauliw25 Mozilla knows how to live hand-to-mouth and Microsoft doesn't. MS doesn't make money on browser share, only Google does that, since they sell your personal information. MS makes money by getting folks to upgrade. So not offering the latest on XP makes sense, doesn't it?
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Good luck finding people to drop $100 ...
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 4th Oct 2010
@PMC-CON... Just to get IE9, never mind the organizations that still run IE6!
@JM1981
... on borrowed time. And soon, it's rotten, bloated corpse will be buried forever.

ANY company that hasn't gotten off it's collective duff to do something about their IE 6 app dependencies by this point in time DESERVES whatever they get.

Being stubborn and telling yourself and the world that your web apps only run in IE 6 is like burying your head in the sand to avoid the inevitable. Singing "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA" at the top of your lungs isn't going to change the fact that technology is marching forward. Corporate inertia will only make things harder later on.

Hiring someone to tackle the problem and making the web apps either compatible with newer versions of IE or maybe even browser independent and making it happen IS the smart thing to do.
@pauliw25 : Unsure where your stats that say 85% of the Windows OS share is Windows XP. If you go by the netmarket share. Windows controls 90% of the OS market. Inside that, XP has 60%. Therefore, XP market share is 66%.

Microsoft probably has goofed by not supporting XP for IE9 - but they do have to ween people off the OS anyways. What people do could benefit Apple [unlikely Linux!] as well as other browsers.
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RE: IE9 beta can't halt Internet Explorer share slide
mswift@... Updated - 4th Oct 2010
IE9, made to match Win7. Usage will go up as Win7 usage grows. IMO it is more about providing a good reason to speed Win7 updates than to win the browser wars. It will be in the top browsers for a long time to come.
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I?m disappointed:
Vine34 4th Oct 2010
Normally I would not post on this sort of thing, but over the past few months, the issues that are present in AKH?s postings have not diminished, and so I feel compelled to comment. This post in particular bothered me for both its grammatical errors and tone problems. I don?t think that expecting a certain level of professionalism is too much to ask.

We start with the headline: ?IE9 beta can't halt Internet Explorer share slide?

I think that this headline is quitter pejorative and implies that AKH can see in to the future and knows that IE9 will not change the browser share trends. Also, who exactly was expecting the beta version of IE9 to change these trends? A better (more accurate) headline would be ?IE9 beta doesn?t halt Internet Explorer share slide.? This is factual and a reasonable summary of the article to follow.

The first paragraph: ?Data released by NetMarketShare for September shows that the usage share for Internet Explorer continues to slide, dropping to its lowest level this year.?

This is a factual and concise summary of the news content in this post.

The second paragraph: ?Internet Explorer?s usage share how 59.65%, beating this year?s previous low of 59.75% set in May. Microsoft might have been pleased with the 6 million downloads of the IE9 beta, but this only translates into a 0.34% usage share. While IE8 enjoyed an increase in usage share, the browser is being dragged down by users migrating from older versions.?

First, I assume that AKH meant ?now is? instead of ?how? in the first sentence. The last sentence is ambiguous, but I assume that he means to say that users of IE6/7 are migrating to Firefox, Chrome, et al.

The third paragraph: ?Firefox, Safari and Opera all held their ground well, while Google Chrome jumped up nearly half a percentage point to 7.98%.?

This is an accurate summary of the other browsers with some nice verbal flair.

The fourth paragraph: ?I look foor trends rather than data points in these numbers, and it?s clear that IE is trending downwards!?

This is the problem section. First, I assume, ?foor? should be ?for?. I am unfortunately not surprised by the number of spelling and grammatical errors in this short post. This is merely the latest example of a trend that has been evident for some time. I expect professional bloggers/journalists who are writing for the consumption of other professionals, to at least use basic spellcheck and to correct these errors before they are posted.

The other issue with this sentence is the exclamation point at the end. This implies excitement about the content of the sentence; I might go so far as glee. While I don?t expect AKH to be a dispassionate automaton, I also don?t want to see him be a cheering section for or against any particular company or service. I?m disappointed that he felt it necessary to turn a frankly boring statistical data point into what appears to be a post cheering a simple trend.
Funny how they talk about how much better the others are. but Ie is still over 50%
@rparker009
Would it be anywhere near 50% if it weren't preinstalled on every Windows machine? Many people just use what is on the machine and either don't know about the alternatives or won't go through the effort of downloading and installing another browser.
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@mystic100
Your point is irrelevant... They us it, it is counted.
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IE is Number One
ParrotHead_FL 4th Oct 2010
In an increasingly fragmented market, IE continues to be the most widely-used browser--and by far.

Anyhow, competition is a good thing. Let all the companies continue to innovate; we consumers win in the end.
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Hello Folks,
If you have the IE9 Beta and have not been to BeautyoftheWeb .com yet I recommend it. There are quite a few HTML5 websites listed where you can see the full power of IE9 in action. Although IE9 is still in Beta, you could run it as a primary browser at this point. Its pretty stable, and runs remarkably fast. We invite you the HTML5 pages in IE9 and other browsers and compare them side by side yourself.

Cheers
Rick
IE Outreach Team
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Right...
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 4th Oct 2010
@Rick IE Team... "you could run it as a primary browser at this point"

And the dozen or so websites, including a Sharepoint 2010 site doesn't render properly. And since I refuse to use IE6/7/8, as they are slow and crummy, I will stick to using Chrome and FF. Perhaps when I see a finished product, I will try it out, but I am really liking Chrome.
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@JM1981
Guess what? There's a compatibility view button.
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@JM1981
They run slow and crummy because your system is slow and crummy... I have used all and all are blazingly fast, or have you not joined the 64-bit evolution yet?
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Hello Folks,
My name is Rick and I work with the IE Outreach Team. I see that there is a robust discussion about browsers going on. For those of you interested there is a new IE9 beta that has been released. It is much faster, cleaner looking and is compatible with HTML5 web standards. You can visit the BeautyofTheWeb.com and read about it. I invite you to download the beta and test it. (for free). Compare the HTML5 websites featured on BOW in IE9 and other browsers to see which one performs better. You might be surprised.

Cheers,
Rick
IE Outreach Team
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It is slow, painfully slow. I know it's a beta, but it's really slow. I now use firefox, not because it's "the best" or any nonsense like that. It's fast, lots faster than IE8, and many times faster IE9 beta. Personally, since IE8 didn't work well at MSN, "which I never understood how one part of your company will not interact with a different part." They must have pulled that from the Apple playbook. I am starting to believe that Microsoft is putting things into beta way to early, and the people who are using them, don't have the capacity to explain any problems to MS tech support.
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I think the capacity problem is reversed.
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 4th Oct 2010
@trust2112@... I am into my third day with Xbox Live Support, and I have explained the problem 3 times, to probably the third person, and I keep getting the canned response. Perhaps if they stopped hiring H1B workers, and hired someone who understands Americanized English, and that has the ability to look at the accounts, and say, Oh here is the problem, let me fix it for you, they would have better customer satisfaction.
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@trust2112@...
Well Firefox 4 keep freezing on me so I have to move to IE9. The other alternative is Chrome, but I don't want spyware on my computer.
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Fix Spelling Mistakes
Naryan 4th Oct 2010
Two mistakes in just five short paragraphs.
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@Naryan
You know, it is rude to criticize without notes for improvement...
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Hmmm...
ryanstrassburg 5th Oct 2010
That sample seems rather small given the vastness of the web. I'd take it with a grain of salt... But is funnny how defensive some get over such trivial numbers.

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