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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

iPad is a real "killer"

By | April 30, 2010, 6:25am PDT

Summary: Tech pundits throw around the word “killer” far too readily, but it seems that Apple’s iPad is really a “killer” tablet. So far, there have been two casualties …

Tech pundits throw around the word “killer” far too readily, but it seems that Apple’s iPad is really a “killer” tablet. So far, there have been two casualties …

What makes the iPad a “killer”? Well, it’s already killed some of its potential competition.

First to bite the dirt sandwich was Microsoft’s “Courier” tablet. A two-screen folding device that was never officially announced or acknowledged, and now never will be. It’s dead. Microsoft pulled the plug on the project yesterday. The reason? Well, that’s not really given. but it’s hard not to think that the success of the iPad, and how much momentum it’s achieved.

Then there’s HP’s Slate. This device first made an appearance at CES in January alongside Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer. Now it appears to be dead. The rumored reason is that HP isn’t happy with with Windows 7 as a touch OS. This was a concern of mine back in March. But it’s odd that the plug is pulled on the device so late in the day because of a weakness that should have been apparent early on in the project.

Two tablets bite the dust in the same week. Coincidence? Maybe, but it’s hard to shake off the feeling that neither Microsoft or HP want to go up against Apple’s iPad right now, and run the risk of Zune-ing out with whatever they come out with. More than anything, the iPad brings uncertainty to the tablet market, and it makes sense for competitors to see how things pan out before dipping a toe in the water. It may be that Windows 7 just isn’t up to the job (in which case, HP’s acquisition of Palm makes more sense … and we could see webOS based tablets soon), but it’s hard not to see these deaths as being linked to the iPad.

Looks like JooJoo might be the iPad’s only competition for a while.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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Killing what?
ITSamurai 13th May 2010
I agree with the article, it is hard not to see an association, and forgive me for this since I may be out of touch, but is it possibly because the tablet market isn't exactly huge?

I travel in a mostly gamer/poweruser circle so that could affect my industry views (ok it does) but I don't know anyone that even owns a tablet PC. I can't personally believe given the lack of tablets in the first place, there's much room in that market for competition - especially if it's (perhaps seemingly) dominated by a glorified iPhone.
be hard to turn around the negative feelings
about HP tablets. The question is how long it
will take HP to field an Arm / WebOS based
tablet. The clock is ticking . . . .
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nah
Jimster480 3rd May 2010
they dont need arm. it would be much easier to port WebOS to x86. And since all the apps use only web languages they would be instantly compatible.
The HP Slate is going to smoke the iPad!!! It's the next best thing since sliced bread!!! The Slate is going to be soooooo Kewl... Everyone will envy me when I have one!!! The iPad sucks compared to the HP Vapor Slate!!!

WHAT!!!

NO SLATE!!!

I'm telling mom!!!!

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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I am a bit confused as to what people are really doing with the iPad. Nobody is saying this device is a full fledged laptop replacement and really I have a great screened television/home theater/stereo in my living room already so I don't need a home use media player. My phone is a decent mobile media player.

I am not denying the sales numbers, I just don't personally "get" what this device would do for me.

Personally I have never liked being locked to iTunes but I fully understand most people really don't care one way or the other and there are probably work around for getting other kinds of media formats on the device.

So really, what market is this device killing in?
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>> As for being a Killer, what is it killing?

Did you not read the article ? The author says it killed Microsoft Courier and HP Slate.
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Sub-quality of the competition
wackoae Updated - 30th Apr 2010
I don't see how anybody can blame the demise of two very badly designed items on the iPad.

The reasons they were both canceled is because MS can't produce an OS that will work on them. In other words, WIN7 SUCKED on the devices. They could not develop a working product. How is that the fault of the iPad??

Based on the toilet logic, we should be blaming Bungie for 3D Realms failure to produce the eternal vaporware called "Duke Nuke'm Forever".
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lol dont believe everything you read.
rbslack@... 30th Apr 2010
I have it directly from HP that this article bears even less relation to fact than the fact that pigs can fly.
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Time.
Great Kahuna 30th Apr 2010
The iPad is the ultimate time killer.
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Good point...
Sleeper Service 1st May 2010
Maybe MS and HP looked at the sales numbers, subtracted the million or so fanboys and realised there's no market for this kind of product.
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None
mikezander 1st May 2010
Well I feel that this device accomplishes (and pretty well might I add) everyday
tasks that we do on our computers much easier and just as fast and arguably
faster. Internet browsing is pretty snappy on this thing and the whole flash thing
is really not a big deal unless u wanna watch porn or some new to be released
movie on their official site. The occasional video here and there is really not
that serious. Its a totally new category and its not needed but so is browsing
the internet on my cellular phone but that never stopped me from doing it. The
price is a bit high for what it is supposed to b able to do but such is the price of
Apple and convenience. To each his own. And writing this comment on it feels
as natural as if i were sitting by my desk on my laptop.
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You tech writers suck.
cool8man 30th Apr 2010
Did you ever think that not everyone wants an iPad or an iPad-like device. Some people want an actual Windows computer in a tiny 1.5lb tablet form factor. Some people want to get to try out the first Windows OS designed with multitouch in mind. Not everyone loves being imprisoned in the closed and limited Apple ecosystem. Some people want to finally get a Windows 7 slate and use the millions of Windows applications that don't run on a limited device like the iPad. There has never been a device like the HP Slate released. There has never been a 1.5lb capacitive multitouch tablet running Windows 7 for under $600. This is the device that I need and the iPad is no substitute. It's not one or the other. Either I get a Windows 7 slate under 2lbs or I don't get a tablet period. iPad doesn't even come into consideration because it doesn't do anything of use to me. For $500 an iPad doesn't even display the full internet.
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You said it man!
Loverock Davidson 30th Apr 2010
I agree with most of what you said, although I'm probably a little more forgiving of Apple than you. But I'd rather have a Slate with Windows 7 on it than the iPad, all depending on price of course.
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Well, then, be prepared to wait 2-3 more years. (NT)
The Danger is Microsoft 3rd May 2010
NT
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BINGO
trance2tec 30th Apr 2010
I want a tablet that I can run my SEO software on (NONE of which even works on a Mac), play Facebook games (FLASH), and have the ability to use all the software I'm already accustomed to on my Windows machine.

iPad does absolutely NOTHING of value to me. And as much as I love my Android phone, an Android tablet does nothing for me either other than Flash.

I want something that will run all my favorite tools and utilities that I use daily.

What a shame that we may not get a small Windows 7 Tablet.

Leave it to Apple to be the cancer that it is on progress while fooling so many people into thinking they are innovating.
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That's funny...
dclhacker 30th Apr 2010
Ha. I laugh in your general direction. Apple sets the bar high with a
great user interface, long battery life, fast processor, and tons of
apps, and you call them a "cancer".

HP desperately needed to go back to the drawing board with the Slate,
as it was heavier, slower, lower-res, and had worse battery life than
the iPad. If they'd come out with it as a final product, they'd be the
laughing stock of the industry. I applaud them for making the tough
decision to rethink their plans (just as Apple did with earlier iPad
iterations).

Microsoft never got theirs off the vaporware drawing board, so their
loss was not as big. Again, dropping it was the right thing for them to
do, if for no other reason than that the idea of a touch interface
requiring a stylus is so last century (shades of Palm and Newtons!)

I don't see Apple as a cancer -- I see them as a decent competitor.
I'm anxiously awaiting some serious competition to the iPad. It will
come, but coming out with something early just so you can be a "me
too" results in an inferior product with you being a "has been".
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You must be a real loser.
hill60 1st May 2010
I take it no-one ever sends you emails.

One thing the iPad can do for you, as opposed to the nothing you state it
can do for you.

There's more, such as all the socially interactive sites it accesses BUT as
you say it can do nothing for you, it leads me to the obvious conclusion
that you are a loser with no friends.
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While I agree with your ideas....
storm14k 30th Apr 2010
Its pretty much been shown that nobody wants
Windows in these form factors.
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I think you are wrong
trance2tec 30th Apr 2010
No one wanted the old Windows. New windows is glossy and has a lot of great touch features. I'd love one of these with a stylus.
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It is almost worthless.
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I think you used Outlook 2003.
Rama.NET 30th Apr 2010
n/t
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Nope. 2007 -nt-
Bruizer 2nd May 2010
Painful
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Stylus?
dclhacker 30th Apr 2010
Please. Stylus' are sooooo last century. Palm had 'em. Newtons had 'em.
Touch interfaces are about "touch".

Try to right-click with that stylus in your Windows interface. *fail*

Try multi-touch on an iPad. *works*
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You are what age?
rhonin Updated - 1st May 2010
Sorry, but with my big fingers there are plenty of times a stylus would come in very handy, especially when dealing with printed materials.

On my iPhone the one thing that really iritates me is having to "select" specific word or words to copy or delete.

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Not a problem for me and my big fingers.
The Danger is Microsoft 3rd May 2010
But then again, I can touch type. Maybe it's an experience thing.
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nt
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Windows 7 Home has never been used on a 1.5lb multitouch tablet for under $600. To say that nobody wants Windows in this form factor is false because Windows 7 has never even been in this form factor before. Only because Intel invented the Atom chip recently is this new form factor and price point even possible. Windows 7 was drastically overhauled from Vista to be multitouch capable in nearly every aspect of the UI. HP Slate would be the first of it's kind.
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HP Slate would be crap to consumers...
ConstableOdo 30th Apr 2010
No consumer in their right mind would want an HP Slate that runs
Windows 7 (any version). It would be crap because the older Atom
processors are crap. If you even asked an Intel employee, he would
tell you that much. What is it with this Atom processor love? Any
successful tablet will be running an ARM processor and a light mobile
OS, not some bloated desktop OS that barely runs decently on a dual-
core Intel chip.

What is the matter with geeks and their insistence on running a
desktop OS on a tablet? They hurt the common consumer with such
stupid demands. No company should ever listen to a geek unless they
want to go out of business. After a dozen failed attempts of
Microsoft trying to build a Windows desktop OS tablet/slate they
should realize it's not going to work. HP would be just throwing away
it's money on an instant failure regardless of what Steve Ballmer says.
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I call bull on that statement.

My laptop is a 1.6GHz dual-core AMD processor and can run Win7 just fine.
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heres an update for ya genius.
rbslack@... 30th Apr 2010
they new dual core atom processors which are goin into the slates is vestly superior to the original Atom processors which indeed where crap. Not only does the slate which I am testing for HP run significantly cooler but also my current average of battery life rounds down to aprox. 8 hours. and since i have both this and an ipad to try them side by side I have to say you dont have a clue what youre talkin about.
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WHAT?
Cylon Centurion 30th Apr 2010
So you're saying they're still on target for being delivered?

I really want a Win7 powered tablet. I'd be in Heaven.
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Windows is Windows....get real...
storm14k 30th Apr 2010
Windows 7 is Windows with different UI controls
and Windows borders. We are talking the
difference between a desktop OS and a mobile OS.
People want the mobile OS on these devices.
Thats why you don't see full blown OSX on the
iPad. Thats why you see the drastic change in
the way BlackBerry's OS 6 looks. Thats why you
don't see the Linux crowd trying to stick full
blown versions on tablets vs something like
Moblin/Meego etc. Windows just doesn't work as a
touch only OS.
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on a fad, I mean pad, is b/c the underline processor is too crappy to handle any decent platform, and that's all there is to it.
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NT
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Really?
Cylon Centurion 30th Apr 2010
Go look on their YouTube page, and then once you get back, we'll talk.

Since being unveil in January, the Slate has had considerable demand and press.
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Vaporware is not a product
wackoae 30th Apr 2010
You must be a really stupid person if you think that a highly edited video with fake funcionality is a product.

People may like the idea of the FAKE functionality, but that does not mean that they want to buy the product that is delivered in the end.

A lot of people wanted Vista because of the WinFS ..... where the hell is WinFS now???
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Hardly vapourware
Cylon Centurion 30th Apr 2010
They had working models.
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BS. A fake model it still vaporware
wackoae 30th Apr 2010
Models are just that model. They are fake products to that simulate what they want sell, but not necessarily what is shipped in the end.

Also, vaporware is anything that is not in production state or at least beta testing.
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Where are these fake models?
Cylon Centurion 30th Apr 2010
Hp has demoed working models on a few occasions now. How is that being fake?
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Vapor = not in production.
Bruizer 30th Apr 2010
Having an engineering sample (cost $35,000) is one thing.

Having a production device (cost $500) is a different thing.
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Youre an idiot...
rbslack@... 30th Apr 2010
I do infact posess a Demo model of the slate with the latest harware updates. in fact it is the prepoduction model( which for the intelectually challenged means this is whats gonna ship) and it runs amazingly well and the touch interface works every bit as well as my ipad. So please shut up if you don't know what you're talkin about.
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@rbslack: Whaaa????
Cylon Centurion 30th Apr 2010
Is it going to ship or no?
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Yes really....
storm14k 30th Apr 2010
Thats why the dropped the thing. You don't think
they did some trials with it? People are excited
because its an alternative to the limited iPad and
rightfully so. But they knew full blown Windows
was not going to work. Why don't you all take off
your MS blinders for a second and see that. MS
would be better off trying to use WinPhone 7 in
this arena just as everyone else has gone for
mobile OS's.
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LOL where you been livin
rbslack@... 30th Apr 2010
Certainly not the real world. In fact it been proven that an overwhelming majority would welcome a Windows PC in this form factor. Know your facts or keep quiet.
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The tablet form factor has been done over and over
and has FAILED. Or did you forget that and thought
the iPad was the first of its kind? If there was a
demand by the overwhelming majority for a Windows
tablet then the iPad would not be such big news
because it would be a late comer to the party.
Maybe you should know your history and keep quiet
yourself.
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If you were paying . . .
JLHenry 1st May 2010
Attention instead of spouting your fool mouth off, you would have read where he has said (TWICE) that he is curretnly testing a pre-production model of the slate right now, and that he also owns an iPad.

Either he's lying, or you're an idiot (probably both, knowing the group that hangs around THESE blogs . . .)
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Right on
Cylon Centurion 30th Apr 2010
I really, REALLY wanted to try out Win 7 touch.

This device would have worked PERFECT for my needs, and the geek factor would have been off the scale..... A full featured OS running on a tablet device. Something that I could feel free using and not limited to a watered down, cruddy, made for running your phone OS
You've had full blown Windows running on a tablet
form factor for YEARS. Now all of a sudden since
Apple releases something the same tablet you have
had for years and didn't want all of a sudden
becomes attractive. As far as functionality goes
any old Windows tablet beats an iPad. So why
didn't you use one?
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Problems with what you want
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 30th Apr 2010
First of Windows 7 was never written for low power CPU's. To run on an ARM device that can use low power the ability to run on ARM is a must.

And second being that Windows 7 or any other Desktop OS for that matter because they only run on full fledged processors, batter life in a 1.5 lb device would be like 15 minutes. you will need 2-3lbs of batter just to power it for 2 maybe 3 hours. Don't go to far from an outlet.

The point being is that a slate will never likely be a full on productivity device, it can have some of those capabilities like the iPad or WiMo has on its mobile platform for phones.

Touch slates and tablets will only be successful on low power hardware, giving them 10+ hours of life, have an OS that is designed to run a top of said hardware, and optimized for touch being the primary means of input.

MSFT and hardware OEM's will only ever be able to break into this market with an OS designed for such devices. WiMO 7 could easily be modified and fitted appropriately for such a device, as Android is being done now with the release of Dell's little tablet devices.
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wrong again
rbslack@... 30th Apr 2010
while the slate is maybe 1/4lb heavier than my ipad it runs just as well and the model i am testing is showing about an 8 hour battery life. It was only the original concept design which was limited to 5 hours. With the latest generation Atom processor and the other hardware revisions they have made in getting it ready for release it is very comparable and more functionally useful than my ipad.
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When you might only sell 1000 copies.

Running a crippled touch based OS on a tablet is a major FAIL right
out of the gate. Have you used Outlook on a touch based computer.
It is horrid. Word? Horrid. Excel? Horrid. How the heck do you right
double click? Mouse over?

All of those million of applications are almost worthless and a RPITA to
use and are crippled as features are difficult (or sometimes impossible) to access.

You hate Apple. Fine. But except the fact that Windows 7 on a touch
based device is a seriously crippled device. Look at Dell. They have it
figured out and have Android based touch devices coming.
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Killing what?
ITSamurai 13th May 2010
I agree with the article, it is hard not to see an association, and forgive me for this since I may be out of touch, but is it possibly because the tablet market isn't exactly huge?

I travel in a mostly gamer/poweruser circle so that could affect my industry views (ok it does) but I don't know anyone that even owns a tablet PC. I can't personally believe given the lack of tablets in the first place, there's much room in that market for competition - especially if it's (perhaps seemingly) dominated by a glorified iPhone.

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