iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

Summary: Fix the problem with a piece of tape.

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Some iPhone 4S owners are reporting problems with their new handsets where the 'No SIM card installed' is being displayed. This is not a new problem.

Here's typically how the problem manifests itself:

Got the new 32GB iPhone 4S today from AT&T, activated the phone was working all morning, I started experimenting with Siri and a couple minutes later the phone was hotter than usual and I get Sim Card failure, and Bad SIM messages. The phone now only says No Sim. I get home take out the SIM card and put it in my previous iPhone 4 and it works just fine. I then put in a blank micro SIM into the new iPhone 4S, but it still says NO SIM. Thinking the SIM reader got fried some how already.

Annoying, but this isn't an iPhone 4S specific issue - it also affected the iPhone 4, and apparently it's down to a design flaw (or perhaps manufacturing imperfections) with the SIM card tray eject mechanism causing a short circuit with the SIM card contacts.

The folks over on the Woo Blog came up with a nifty fix for this problem back in 2010 - all you need is a little tape. I know that this simple fix has worked for quite a few people. Otherwise, take the problem up with Apple.

Topics: iPhone, Hardware, Mobility, Smartphones

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  • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

    [i]Fix the problem with a piece of tape.[/i]

    Wow. 'Magical' and 'revolutionary', indeed.
    UrNotPayingAttention
    • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

      @UrNotPayingAttention

      It just works
      sackbut
      • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

        @sackbut: As long as you aren't holding it wrong.
        Natanael_L
      • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

        @sackbut works to screw it up
        augustus_rome
  • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

    [i]all you need is a little tape.[/i]

    Impossible... they must be lying!

    I'm told that Apple makes the BMW of tech devices, and everyone else makes the Yugo. This "fix" implies just the opposite. This is M$'s fault! I don't know how, but it is.
    Badgered
    • Glad I got the HTC Trophy

      @Badgered
      I haven't had any problems with my phone at all.

      Luckily, my wife's iPhone is on Verizon, so no SIM card needed. Once less issue she has to deal with.
      William Farrell
    • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

      @Badgered yeah ms is to blame for all apple's faults.
      augustus_rome
  • RE: Fix the problem with a piece of tape.

    That is NOT a FIX. That is temporary work around. Does Apple admit that this is a problem even?
    bobiroc
    • All iPhone 4S are currently under warranty.

      You make an appointment at a genius bar, present your phone, they see the problem, they give you a new phone, you are out in less than thirty minutes.

      So, what, precisely, was your point again?
      baggins_z
      • The point is a piece of tape isn't a fix.

        @baggins_z: This needed to be explained to you? Really?
        ye
      • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

        @baggins_z [i]So, what, precisely, was your point again?[/i]

        What it says to me is, that from what I've read repeatedly on ZDNet's talk back section about Apple's strict manufacturing tolerances, this seems very 1.0.
        Badgered
      • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

        @baggins_z

        baggins, seeing as the flaw is with the [i]phone[/i] (first with the 4, now with the 4S)... someone could very well be back at the genuis bar the next day with the same problem with their new replacement phone.

        the point is: Apple, fix the problem :|
        UrNotPayingAttention
      • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

        @ye [b]The point is a piece of tape isn't a fix. This needed to be explained to you? Really?[/b]

        Why no, a piece of tape is NOT a fix. The point baggins_z was making is that the fact that Apple is replacing the affected devices makes this less of an issue than AKH and you iHaters want to make it out to be.

        @badgered [b]What it says to me is, that from what I've read repeatedly on ZDNet's talk back section about Apple's strict manufacturing tolerances, this seems very 1.0.[/b]

        So there can be NO defective devices because this is Apple but it's okay for other smartphone manufacturers to have issues? Really? And I have not seen too many comments about Apple's strict manufacturing tolerances here... perhaps I wasn't that close attention to the rabid frothing at the mouth fanbois.

        @UrNotpayingAttention [b]baggins, seeing as the flaw is with the phone (first with the 4, now with the 4S)... someone could very well be back at the genuis bar the next day with the same problem with their new replacement phone.[/b]

        That is always a possibility and if that's the case then there is more of an issue than I'm thinking and Apple needs to do some serious scrutiny on the manufacturing process.[b]

        the point is: Apple, fix the problem[/b]

        I have a feeling - much like "antennagate", "batterygate", "whateverotheroverblowniPhoneissuethetechmediapushesnextweekgate", etc. - that this is entirely overblown and Apple's proper response would be to replace the device and chalk it up to a limited manufacturing defect. If this winds up affecting more than a few users (say around 1-12% as opposed to 2-3% with 'antennagate') then Apple needs to step up their scrutiny and make this right with either full refunds on the devices and any money spent on apps or a recertified replacement and a gift card to the iTunes store.
        athynz
      • No iHater here.

        @baggins_z: [i]Why no, a piece of tape is NOT a fix. The point baggins_z was making is that the fact that Apple is replacing the affected devices makes this less of an issue than AKH and you iHaters want to make it out to be.[/i]

        I own an iPhone. I'm just naive enough to believe it's flawless...like the fanboys are.
        ye
      • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

        @baggins_z

        Precisely, Apple's quality control problem that would waste customer's time.

        Precisely.
        Samic
      • A warranty means nothing

        @baggins_z ...when the hardware its covering is a POS. All that says to me is Apple are admitting they screwed up. Again.
        I mean, a generation 5 device that has problems with its basic hardware and not with a new feature they're trying to implement? It shows how much of a cobble each generation actually is.

        I dont think the 4 or 4S iPhones are any better than the 3. I've hovered over getting an iPhone since the first one, but every device that Apple issue has one problem or another and needs a major fix or workaround to make it work flawlessly (Or rather, to design spec, which isnt the same).

        This is why I have been a fan of Nokia for years. Nokia build unbreakable hardware that works out of the box - when do you ever hear of a significant amount of their new phones not working properly or having major design faults that need a user patch of some sort? Thats right, never.
        In fact, I'd be hard pushed to find one single phone manufacturer other than Apple that has had these kind of problems.

        Until Apple stop using their customers to test their rubbish on, I wont be buying... Thats what other companies have in-house testers for. They need them to make sure that the device works as expected before they go into full production because it costs less than recovering the bad ones from the public, and prototypes from random cocktail bars.

        It also prevents them from looking like amateurs in the design field. I used to be in R&D, and a golden rule with design is make it work first, paint it afterward. Thats something Apple dont understand, because most of their IP is paint.

        Poor show, Apple. I'll wait for them to realise that pretty is not for hiding the **** underneath before I buy any of their hardware.
        SiO2
      • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

        @SiO2 Like any of this affects your decision regarding buying an iPhone. Everyone can see through your lies, you would never consider an iPhone so don't even bother trying to convince us that these overblown issues are what has prevented you from doing so at this point. You talk about how Nokia hasn't had any issues that affected a significant amount of their new phones as if you are comparing them to Apple. If you are, please point out the issues that affected a significant amount of iPhones. I will give you the battery issue with iOS5 but considering it still got better battery life than the competition and was fixed with a software update fairly quickly I think you are pretty desperate if you use it. Go ahead, lets see the list that has affected more than a couple of percent of devices and you have to back up the list with facts. You can't just post links to any and every "whatevergate" article that tries to make something out of nothing because it's great link bait.
        non-biased
  • It "just works"

    nt
    ye
  • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

    Lol - all I get from Apple fan-boys is: "It just works", "Apple is perfect", "blah, blah, blah".
    Bagginz: seeing that you have to send your iPhone away to the manufacturer for a new battery, new 'buffer', and just before you switch it on and switch it off every day; then yes - why didn't we assume that you'd have to get it replaced for this?
    'Genius'? Yep - pure genius conning Apple fan-boys into buying their junk.

    Red ;-)
    RedSlayer
    • RE: iPhone 4S 'No SIM card installed' is not a new problem

      @RedSlayer :<br><br> . . . and your point is . . . what? Do you have an iPhone? Probably not. Do you have one of the other things? Most likely. Congratulations, this conversation does not apply to you, UrNotPayingAttention, Badgered, bobiroc, or sackbut, et al. Why don't you persistant whiney boyz go up on a post that deals with the other phone, or some Windoze PC's and promote your mutual admiration society. Why be a hater? We buy what we buy because something about it appeals to us. There's a certain level of snob in all of us; some people just enjoy the feel and operation of a quality built product. Not all Apples are born perfect; I had a half terabyte drive die in my iMac when it was a few months old. Is that Apples fault? No. Did they stand behind it? Immediately. I work in the industry and must deal with bad components daily. You have a problem, you isolate the problem, you repair or replace the problem. As it turns out we don't support any Apple products in our test lab, so it is a matter of patching software, replacing memory, HDD's, Power Supplies, and Backplane and Daughter boards on Windows/Linux servers nearly daily on the 100+ servers in my lab. Crappy components is not an Apple, or IBM, or Hitachi, or HP specific problem. Stuff breaks and ya FIX it, or apparently you yo-yo's like to line up like the faceless haters that you are and bust on somebody because THEIR device just $hit the Bed. Nice. I bet you guys are all tons o' fun at a car accident scene.
      ExEC135CrewDog