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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

It's time for Microsoft to come clean over the Metro UI

By | January 31, 2012, 5:24am PST

Summary: Microsoft has kept us in suspense for long enough and it’s now time for the Redmond behemoth to come clean as to what users can expect from the next-generation Windows.

We’ve had the developer preview of Windows 8 for a few months now, and there’s a constant drip-feed of information coming from Microsoft via way of the Building Windows 8 blog. But there’s one question that Microsoft is refusing to answer - whether there will be an easy way for users to disable the Metro UI start screen and get back to a classic desktop.

I think Microsoft has kept us in suspense for long enough and it’s now time for the Redmond behemoth to come clear as to what users can expect from the next-generation Windows.

Note: None of the following applies to ARM-powered Windows 8 systems, which I believe will have no classic desktop support.

I think that in many ways what Microsoft has done is very clever. The company unveiled the Developer Preview and thrust the tiled, touch-capable Metro UI down everyone’s throat. The classic desktop is there, but it’s at least a click away, and if you want it back permanently, you need to don surgical gloves and start butchering the OS with third-party tools. If you prefer the classic desktop over the Metro UI, or have no need for a touch interface on the hardware you’re running Windows 8 on, then this will put a crimp in your workflow.

There’s a certain logic to what Microsoft did with the Metro UI start screen in the Windows 8 developer preview. What better way to get people to use the new UI than to make it the default option, and what better way to take the temperature for how people feel about it than by making it mandatory. If the Metro UI had been optional and the people installing the preview had been faced with the classic Windows desktop then I think that only a small number of people (those with touch hardware, hardcore users, masochists …) would have taken the new UI for a spin, and that would have resulted in limited feedback as testers assumed that the classic desktop would remain the primary method of interacting with the operating system.

But has the metro UI really ousted the classic desktop? Well, Microsoft is being tight-lipped about the future of the classic desktop, but I’m hearing unconfirmed rumors that there are builds of Windows 8 at Microsoft that offer users an easy way to switch between Metro and classic, a move primarily driven by the negative reaction to the new UI (and associated costs, such as related to training) expressed by enterprise users, and apprehension from big name OEMs who fear that users will shun the new OS and land them with yet another Vista-esque debacle (given that PC sales are already precarious, OEMs don’t want to do anything that might push things over the edge).

As much as Microsoft might want to push a new user interface (and the associated app store, which could be a sweet little revenue generator) onto the masses, the company is also sensitive to the fact that another Vista-style foul-up could mean serious trouble for the company, if not the industry as a whole.

My betting is that Microsoft will play it safe with Windows 8 and give users the option of how they want to view their PC. It’s the only sensible thing to do.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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RE: It's time for Microsoft to come clean over the Metro UI
DarienHawk67 1st Feb
I agree with you Adrian. I belive that MSFT will offer a quick and easy method of allowing users to select METRO or Windows 7 style. As much as I like Windows 8 and looking foward to using it full time once the beta drips, I am not a big fan of METRO (in its current state).

However, once I see the modifications and updates to METRO, I may change my mind. Either way, I do believe there will be a choice. MSFT cannot afford another Vista experience--although I actually liked Vista.
Edit a single entry in the registry to turn off the Metro UI...
1. Open regedit by pressing the windows key and typing regedit.
2. Navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
3. Modify the RPEnabled key to a ???0??? instead of the default ???1???.
@acewingman@... I see what you did there.
@acewingman@...
Create User Accounts in Metro. Now apply this hack and find out that ONLY! the Admin Account reverts. The Metro Created User Accounts still show the Metro UI. Nice Hack but we need more since you cannot edit the Registry from a User Account.
@acewingman@...

Wow that is hard!! BUT!!!! To make things slightly easier, as a network admin of a large windows network, i can actually push it out through GP (believe it or not) meaning none of my users would ever see the metro screen if we didnt want them to!!!!!

Magic.
@acewingman@...
only expert users can do that! Linux offers a better and simpler UI interface.
@The Linux Geek
Apparently you haven't tried Gnome-3. Boy does that User Experience SUCK OUT LOUD! And like the classic desktop in Win-8 Preview, thoroughly devoid of customization. Just try to delete the extra tool-bar at the bottom and try to put the top tool-bar on the bottom as I prefer it. Only Mandriva Linux with the KDE Desktop has this type of functionality correct.
@The Linux Geek

I hope to God, you are not speaking of that abomination that Canonical has created for Ubuntu called Unity??? It may be fine for tablets, and similar devices, but for most common workplace desktop scenarios, it plain sucks.

Also, keeping in line with `@The Rifleman's` comments regarding Gnome 3, I think it is somewhere between Gnome 2.x (which I like, and customize like hell); and Unity (which I could not wait to scrape from my Oneiric and Precise installs).
@The Linux Geek
I'm actually interested in Cinnamon, the Linux Mint fork of Gnome 3 with the customizability and UI philosophy of Gnome 2.x. What concerns me the most is this new HUD Canonical is considering for Ubuntu. They intend for it to be a replacement for application menus. I think its going to be a disaster.
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Ah, yes----the registry.
Userama 31st Jan
@acewingman@...
Maybe they should have named Metro "Lipstick" instead.
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My Take......
carlsf@... 31st Jan
@acewingman@... Why have to revert to a registry HACK for a option that should be included and an option you can set on initial setup.

We are just starting to implement WIN7 configured to suit our users, others are still happy on XP and Vista, WIN 7 is not well liked, liked and we are just moving to Office 2007 from 2003, again Office 10 not well received.
We do NOT want to have to commit more money into Upgrades (O/S or Office), Training, we just want to run a productive company, where money is NO having to be spent to feed Microsoft.
@acewingman@...

it WONT work for beta... so stop dreaming there will be a "hack" to turn metro off...

Canouna has said there is no start manu anymore. so stay with Win7, xp or vista... or go win8. or some other OS.
@acewingman@...

Not a good option for the vast majority of non-tech users.
@acewingman@...
Yeah, I can just see my dad getting in the registry to edit things.......
@acewingman@...
Good. Worked like a charm. Changed the binary value--on a standard account w/out admin rights--logged off, logged back on and wooohooo. Classic (Windows 7 style) Start Menu.
Ever since my initial tests with Metro I have been telling everyone who asks about Windows 8 that Metro sucks.

Not everyone will use a touch screen device, the example I have used is call centre staff, if I ring up to query by electricity bill I do not want the drone on the other end having to check my consumption on a screen they are swiping with hands that not 2 seconds earlier were holding a peanut butter sandwich.

By the end of the work day the screens in these places are going to be harder to view than dimly lit greenscreens on hardware held together with goodwill and layers of the dust of time!
@tjc1974

Have you even tried Windows 8? your comments lead me to believe that the answer is no... As if anything its easier to use than windows 7 on a non touch screen.
@danjames2012

Maybe if you're blind or retarded it's easier. Add a lot of apps and watch that nasty tile list grow. Unless they fixed it along the way.
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@danjames2012

Maybe if you're blind or retarded it's easier. Add a lot of apps and watch that nasty tile list grow. Unless they fixed it along the way.
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@itguy10

Says the guy who can't remember if he scrolls up and down or left to right. I wouldn't comment on others intellect to be honest.
@danjames2012

Hmm, which part of "Ever since my initial tests with Metro" was oblique?

I've run windows 8 in a virtual machine for several months, it is anything but easier to use than Windows 7, I have found that Metro gets in the way of mouse/keyboard input.
@danjames2012
Id have to question if you have used windows 8 or windows 7 with those comments. Windows 8 as it sits in developers issue is really really bad. The metor ui is the biggest issue with it as it makes getting real work done so hard and slow. It really is not user friendly for full pc usage. It might have some place for touch devices or toys but even then a touch version of desktop would be much more user friendly and intuitive.
@danjames2012

How about a tile labeled publishing that contained all the applications you used to write, format, and distribute your work? One called accounting that contained your main accounting app and the applications used to report taxes, deposit payroll in workers accounts, etc?.
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mswift@... That sounds like nested folders on the desktop. How is a tile instead of a folder an advantage? I don't use Microsoft stuff but this sounds like a rather poor risk for them to take. Looks like MS may be failing faster than even I dreamed of!
@tjc1974
Thats why they offer either the touch interface or the classic desktop. Not sure how you missed that and from all the options in Windows from the past I will bet there will be a control panel option to select your default desktop version. So not sure why you think its strictly a touch OS, but hey I am sure you tested it out already and knew that!
@OhTheHumanity
In the Preview Edition, the Classic UI is so thoroughly stripped of functionality, it's not worth using yet. This article implies that this whole discussion may well be a moot point even as I write this.
@OhTheHumanity
The desktop option in the windows 8 developers copy is not very good at all. The use of th start button pretty much just yanks you back to metro which as said is ahuge problem. As it sits its just very anti mouse keyboard friendly and I have used it extensively since day one.They will have to offer a full on windows classic install with familiar UI desktop and start button without the bloat of the metro ui crap. The panels just are not very user friendly and as shown clearly by windows phone sales people just do not like the ui at all.
@tjc1974

I agree completely. The metro ui is just horrible. If Microsoft hopes to avoid the vista incident they must allow people to install a metro free windows with full desktop and start button. If either is optioned out then Microsfot is in big trouble. It has been shown people really do not like the metro ui by just looking at the WP& sales and then read blogs about windows 8. If they let you install metro free with a classic desktop and start button then windows 8 has a chance. They would also be in better condition if they allowed a classic desktop look for tablets and no netro. Just make the desktop like how android and apple do for putting touch icons for apps and programs but keep a similar start button to navigate the file system.With mandatory metro and no start button windows 8 is a pass for sure.
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Need to Kill it off
itguy10 31st Jan
It's FUGLY, inefficient, and a waste of real estate.
@itguy10 --- AMEN
@itguy10 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and how can you possibly know if it is inefficient? Until native WinRT apps are running on this thing we can't really tell because it is only then that the tiles will become alive and useful. Personally I'm looking forward to the beta and making my mind up then but I can already tell that lots of people who have already dismissed metro as a bad idea. People generally fall in to one of two camps - those that love advancements in technology and those who are afraid to take the next technological leap until they are forced to. I can remember standing in a queue when windows 95 was coming out and hearing some nerd saying he'll never move to 95 because he likes to tune his computer by setting config.sys himself! I wonder if he's still doing that now? Metro may turn out to be a pile of crap for desktop computing but I'm gonna give it a really good try and see if it has any advantages.
@alecfoundry How can you know? How about from use? People aren't going to just sit and wait with their brand new computer for everything to be "native WinRT apps." They're going to use older apps as well. They're going to use apps that aren't native and likely never will be (see 10 million WoW players, for one example.) They're going to have legacy apps they *can't* just rewrite.

I'm hoping it does change in the beta later this year, but as it sits in the dev. preview, it's horrible.
@itguy10 Thumbs up.
I understand that not everyone likes the Metro-style start screen; I find the full-screen and fragmented search experience disruptive myself, at least in this early and unfinished design. What I don't understand is when Microsoft is supposed to have been less than clear about Metro being non optional; as I read and hear them, the Windows team has said consistently that Metro is it and the only times they say you can change things is when talking about third-party options like Window blinds. What official statement makes people think there might be the option of disabling it?
@mary.branscombe
Well they will still be selling desktops to consumers and businesses and I am pretty sure they are going to give the option to set a default view for users. I would imagine a nice a little control panel setting will do the trick and Windows 8 was meant to be a hybrid system so not sure why everyone thinks they will make you stick to just Metro?
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He's not saying that
LiquidLearner 31st Jan
@OhTheHumanity

But they have been pretty clear that the metro screen replaces the start menu in Windows 8. The developer preview doesn't work very well with keyboard and mouse but they have (apparently) made numerous improvements to make it more usable with those. The old desktop is there for legacy support and applications that require a more advanced UI than Metro could provide.
@mary.branscombe
There's no "official statement", just the undisputable FACT that turning off the MetroUI is nothing more than a simple registry key change from 1 to 0. They don't need to make an "official statement" when I can see for myself that I was able to turn off MetroUI in a matter of seconds.
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Which also means
LiquidLearner 31st Jan
@swmace

Enterprises can push it to all desktops easily. It also means it will take them a few man hours to code a control panel option. And probably not much longer to give the option as part of setup.

That said I'd be surprised at a control panel option. I get that they'll need to keep enterprise happy but I think they'll make it your normal start menu on desktops. Everyone also leaves Kinect out of the equation. Metro seems made for Kinect. Reaching across your desk isn't very efficient but making slight gestures with your hand seems very natural. Combine that with the advances in voice control and an always listening device it could be pretty sweet. No need to click something to initial speech. I want to name my computer to b*!@# so I can just say "B*!@# open Excel".
@swmace
Yep, either Microsoft will add a nice little control panel change for this or someone will develop a very simple app that can turn it off. And also through group policy there will no doubt be the option there.
@swmace

yeah and you forgot its a developer preview... do you think there will be hack in consumer preview? the answer is NO. canouna said it and alot of said it... there is no more start menu in newer builds
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yeah and you forgot its a developer preview... do you think there will be hack in consumer preview? the answer is NO. canouna said it and alot of said it... there is no more start menu in newer builds

Until it's final release and it's actually released that way, then it's not set in stone. And if that's the case then I expect to see more registry hacks like this in the future.
It is such a pity that a Registry hack is necessary to turn off the Metro UI.
However, it is become much clearer that Windows-8 is oriented for tablets and smartphones, and not laptops or desktops. At the risk of sounding like a LP with a nick, what is there (if anything) in Windows-8 for the millions of computer users who need to rely on full-size keyboards and mice to perform their productivity tasks?
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@TsarNikky Christmas comes early ..thank you MS!
@TsarNikky

Ive been using a buggy unstable developer preview for all these months and it works fine for me... dont like it well thats you, but for alot of people its a good OS which has more than a UI.

and there is no start menu in newer build = no hack for consumer preview wink... and there wont be a hack in RTM, if start menu hasn't been there in alot of build its becasue MS dont want it there.
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You'd Think a Gradual Approach Would Be Best
CFWhitman Updated - 31st Jan
I think that Microsoft has a little bit of a dilemma here. The obvious thing to do with any possible changeover like this is to take the gradual approach. They would probably hope that it would work out something like this:

1. Metro is introduced in Windows 8, and is the default interface for Windows tablet computers.
2. Windows 8 tablets become quite popular in the market (who knows if that will happen; it doesn't look all that promising at the moment, but you never know).
3. As people become more accustomed to the Metro interface from using tablets, it becomes viable to make it the default for Windows 9 (or maybe 10).
4. Perhaps the Metro interface becomes acceptable enough that they can retire the classic interface by Windows 11.

The dilemma is whether this will work out or they will have to stick to a "no pressure" approach that allows the classic interface to be used for the foreseeable future. There are problems either way.

If they don't make Metro successful, and they have to keep the classic interface on their successful machines, how relevant to the future of personal computing devices will they remain if the desktop/laptop gradually becomes only 10% to 30% of a regular user's computing activity (and the technical people who can be depended on to spend more time at the desktop are already more flexible about their desktop operating system). If Microsoft can't migrate to other platforms from the desktop, does that mean that other operating systems providers can't migrate from other platforms to the desktop? They would have to hope it would mean that. (Personally, I think a different interface for the desktop and the handheld/touchscreen device makes sense, but that doesn't mean that everyone feels the same way.)

If they force users to Metro in an attempt to stay in the center of personal computing, will they push users to investigate other options on the desktop (or stay with Windows 7 for as long as possible)? That approach also leads to the possibility of losing their grip on the desktop market.

I think that for the moment Microsoft basically has to make a classic desktop interface available. I think they also are very concerned with making Metro a success, either now or with a future iteration.

Of course in any case Microsoft's grip on the market has to loosen eventually. Market domination like they have enjoyed in the past never lasts forever because markets inevitably change in some way. The fact that no market domination lasts forever doesn't mean that Microsoft won't remain a successful company.
"We???re had the developer preview of Windows 8 for a few months now"

Months? and you haven't seen the huge double sized square marked DESKTOP which urmm takes you to the classic desktop (which is currently a very simplified other than task manager and new look folders, seems MS is planning a new look change but are keeping it under wraps for now is all)?
@Nyadach
You might have noticed that he also said that the classic desktop was "at least a click away." He knows that you can switch to it on a per session basis. His question is, will they make it easy to switch to it as the default session?
For a desktop user Metro isn't going to matter. It's something there in the background like MCE is in Vista and 7. You want it, you have it.

But look at what MS has been doing of late going back to Quebec (if you ever tried installing it since it seems to be skipped over by the press also). It's a very interesting and shows a lot of where MS is going. Yes it's more modular and technical due to what it is, but the installer shows a lot of clues for 8. Firstly the choice of kernel for ARM or '86. Then we get the choice of GUI's...which for 8 this won't really apply for a desktop user, it makes perfect sense for tablets and phones. You only install Metro on those devices, no classic desktop for those devices.

So what about us classic desktop users? we get the lot! Just like we did with 7 and Vista. We just choose to use it or not. And worst off lets face it GPedit will be able to turn it off, as no way are MS going to not allow corporate users to choose thing exactly how they want.

Stories like these are nothing but scaremongering about 8. We haven't seen what the new desktop will look like yet is all as MS is too busy flaunting around Metro to keep the share value up due to the popularity of tablets. But we all know there is something new coming due to the few tweaks we've seen with task manager and the folder ribbon. Everything else seems to be very secretive which is unusual for MS, but you can't really fault them for it. Look at Vista and 7, before they came out folk had ripped off the GUI for themes for linux and XP. It makes sense to keep a few things secret for longer no?
Many workflows will require multiple apps open at the same time, and since some of those apps will be Metro, both MUST be available at the same time, unless Metro apps can exist on the old desktop.

The home sceen/single app paradigm works for phones, but tablets, laptops and desktops, with their greater pixel areas can provide enough space for multiple application windows, so that users are not doing a swap just to look at different information that is related.

Certainly, Win8 Metro app developers, usually with multiple monitors, will need to be able to see the full target Metro UI AND manipulate backend or associated apps.

How does Win8 handle these scenarios?
@Patanjali What I'm hoping is that we'll be able to set individual monitors as either Metro or classic mode.
You make it sound like Microsoft owes you an explanation for their product which has not be released yet. I want the Metro UI, its going to be a great change from the classic desktop. Metro will allow you to see more information at your fingertips. Its time to man up and accept the change.
I agree with you Adrian. I belive that MSFT will offer a quick and easy method of allowing users to select METRO or Windows 7 style. As much as I like Windows 8 and looking foward to using it full time once the beta drips, I am not a big fan of METRO (in its current state).

However, once I see the modifications and updates to METRO, I may change my mind. Either way, I do believe there will be a choice. MSFT cannot afford another Vista experience--although I actually liked Vista.

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