ie8 fix
madison

Hardware 2.0

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Jobs: "There is no Antennagate"

By | July 16, 2010, 12:06pm PDT

So, after days of rumor and speculation, there was no recall, no offer to paint on lacquer onto the antenna, and no hand out of gift certificates to iPhone 4 owners.

According to Steve Jobs: “There is no Antennagate.”

That’s right. Bottom line, according to Apple, the whole issue with the iPhone 4 antenna has been “blown so far out of proportion.”

Watch the press conference here.

So, what’s the upshot?

  • Apple suggests all users install the new iOS 4.0.1 update, that is supposed to fix the signal strength bars.
  • Free bumpers and cases. Apple can’t make enough bumpers, so will give iPhone 4 owners the chance to pick a third-party case.
  • Refunds to all who bought bumpers.
  • A reminder that users have 30 days to return the iPhone if they are unhappy with it.

Note: Refunds and cases will be available on the Apple website early next week.

And that’s it.

Well, Steve Jobs did go on (and on, and on) pressing how this issue is not an iPhone issue, but one that affects all smartphones:

“We did our own testing. Let me show you an example of some other smartphones. First, Blackberry Bold 9700, perhaps the most popular business smartphone … [video shows it being held a certain way] … Pretty much identical to the videos on the web about the iPhone 4.”

There was more demos, but the upshot was simple:

“This is life in the smartphone world. Phones aren’t perfect.”

Jobs also threw around a lot of data:

  • Complaint rate on Applecare for antenna or reception issues: 0.55%
  • iPhone 4 has 1/3rd of the return rate of the iPhone 3GS
  • The revelation that while the iPhone 4 drops more calls the 3GS, this is less than 1 in 100 more.

He also went to great lengths to say how much he loved customers:

“We love our users. We try very hard to surprise and delight them. We work our asses off, and it’s great, and we have a blast doing it, and we make some pretty interesting products for them. Macs, iPhones, iPads, iPods, the Apple TV … we make some pretty great products.”

The love just keeps on coming:

“We love our users so much we’ve built 300 Apple retail stores for them, the best buying experience in the world,”

Jobs was also keen to dispel the “style over function” argument, with more love:

“We’re an engineering company. We think like engineers, and we think it’s the right way to solve real, hard problems. I don’t think the fact that we love our customers is going to change at all. I don’t think we could run any faster. We’ve had cots in the labs, cars in the parking lots all night. We’ve been living here.”

But it’s clear that this episode has left Apple feeling unloved. Jobs again:

“I guess it’s just human nature, when you see someone get successful you just want to tear it down. I see it happening with Google. Google is a great company. Look at everything they’ve created. Would you prefer if we were Korean companies? Do you not like the fact that we’re an American company leading the world right here? Of course we’re human, of course we’ll make mistakes. But sometimes I feel that in search of eyeballs for these web sites, people don’t care about what they leave in their wake.”

It also seems that, more than anything, it was the coverage in Consumer Reports that had the most effect:

“One thing is how much we love our customers and how we are going to take care of them. We were stunned and upset and embarrassed by the Consumer Reports stuff, and the reason we didn’t say more is because we didn’t know enough. If we’d have done this event a week and a half ago, we wouldn’t have had half the data we have today.”

So is this enough to put out the fire? I’m not sure. Bottom line though, there are two issues here:

  • Will consumers be happy with what’s on the table (free case, refund)?
  • How badly has this damaged Apple reputation?

I guess we’ll have to wait and see what happens …

Kick off your day with ZDNet's daily e-mail newsletter. It's the freshest tech news and opinion, served hot. Get it.

Topics

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology.

Disclosure

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

All opinions expressed on Hardware 2.0 are those of Adrian Kingsley-Hughes. Every effort is made to ensure that the information posted is accurate. If you have any comments, queries or corrections, please contact Adrian via the email link here. Any possible conflicts of interest will be posted below. [Updated: February 23, 2010] - Adrian Kingsley-Hughes has no business relationships, affiliations, investments, or other actual/potential conflicts of interest relating to the content posted so far on this blog.

Biography

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

Related Discussions on TechRepublic

Did you know you can take part in these discussions with your ZDNet membership?
85
Comments

Join the conversation!

Just In

What the hell do I want?
GeoffMichael 26th Jul 2010
@RationalGuy I have an iMac and a MacBook Pro in addition to my two Windows-based laptops and I'm pleased with the quality of all four items.

What do I want from Apple? Admit the "F" up, make it right, and move on.
0 Votes
+ -
So, iPhone 4 users are generally happy ...
RationalGuy 16th Jul 2010
... and people without an iPhone 4 are up in arms. Apple acknowledged the issue, explained the technical problem, offered a free fix for people who want a case and full returns for people who don't.

If this really were a recall-worthy event, don't you think returns would be incredibly high? Wouldn't complaints to AppleCare be incredibly high? What other facts do you need to acknowledge that this "issue" was an effect of the Internet Echo Chamber?

What the hell else do you want?
0 Votes
+ -
@RationalGuy Cutting the restocking fee is okay, if you ask me. People can give their faulty phones back.

Of course, most people won't. They'll blame the network, since they're used to AT&T dropping calls.

What's not okay is lying about the issue. They're pretending that it's not worse than other phones, which is an outright lie.

The difference is, when you hold other phone, you only shield the antenna, causing a slight drop in reception. When holding the iPhone 4, you actually bridge the antennas, which is an entire different thing and of course causes a much bigger drop in reception (twice as bad as e.g. the Nexus One, as Anandtech found out - meaning it's VERY unlikely that you drop a call with the Nexus One by holding it wrong, while with the iPhone 4, it's pretty easy, even in areas with relatively good coverage).
0 Votes
+ -
They're not lying ...
RationalGuy 16th Jul 2010
@drphysx

They're saying there is a problem, they are describing what the problem is, and telling you that if you have the problem, you can get a free case or get a full refund on the phone.
0 Votes
+ -
Can we say 'imploding'?
LBiege 16th Jul 2010
Betcha Ballmer and Schmidt are laughing at every ridiculous denial Apple throws out at the public. Jobs is firing bazooka after bazooka at his own foot while MSFT and GOOG are cheerleading for him.
0 Votes
+ -
@RationalGuy

I'm okay with them giving out free cases and cutting the restocking fee.

But they're definitely lying about the nature of the problem.

It's very different from other phones. They claim that you lose signal strength by shielding the antenna, but actually the issue is that you're bridging the antennas, which is not possible with other phones and of course causes a much bigger drop than just shielding it.

Their description of the problem is wrong and they know it. They're lying.
0 Votes
+ -
In other words, sounds like Windows!
NonZealot 16th Jul 2010
@RationalGuy
and people without an iPhone 4 are up in arms.

If I could have a dollar every time someone on ZDNet wrote:
Wow, Windows sucks because of this latest huge deal of an issue... sure glad I never use Windows!!!

I'd be a rich man!

Jobs nailed it when he said: I guess it?s just human nature, when you see someone get successful you just want to tear it down

The irony is that when MS was #1, you were right up there trying to tear down a successful company. You, Steve Jobs, are as pathetic as you are now accusing all those horrible anti-Apple establishments like Gizmodo and CR of being.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
msalzberg 17th Jul 2010
@NonZealot

You have a very valid point. People shouldn't comment on software they don't use.
0 Votes
+ -
@RationalGuy
What the hell else do you want?

People want Apple to fail just like you want MS to fail. It doesn't matter to you what MS does to fix any of the minor issues that crop up Windows, you will always hate Windows, Microsoft, and anyone who dares be happy with an MS product.

All you are experiencing now is your own venom being spit back in your face. There is nothing you can do to stop it. Nothing. Enjoy your karma! happy
0 Votes
+ -
NonZealot?
tom@... 21st Jul 2010
@NonZealot

Why would you take a nic that is the opposite of your own spew? It really removes any credibillity you might have had iin my own mind.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
crislevin Updated - 17th Jul 2010
@RationalGuy lol, people without an iPhone now are the one that have purchasing potential, right? the guys who already have it, do you really think anybody cares about those people now? Obviously apple doesn't.

Its stupid to claim everybody will call applecare when they have a problem, who give you that data?

Just because Steve Jobs selectively showed you some data, people supposed to stop using their own brain and thinking?

What facts do people need? how about a fair test carried out by consumer reports? are you standing here blatantly accuse everybody lying?

So, in defending your beloved apple, you wouldn't mind accuse the whole world? What a twisted mind, rational, LMAO.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
MichaelWells 19th Jul 2010
@RationalGuy I think you are using the .55 percent figure a little disingenuously. First of all, most recalls only involve a small percentage of the actual product that is in the market. I am a parts manager at a Nissan and Hyundai dealership, so I have experience with this subject. The iPhone4 sold 1.5 million units on the very first day, so I think it would be safe to assume that we are close to 3 million sold. Let us take Jobs' own figures and do the math; that comes out to 165,000 phones that are experiencing this problem. Now that number looks rather significant and insignificant at the same time. When you first look at the number, you think wow that is a lot of phones. Then when you look at in context, you think this is just another recall. The main problem was Apple's initial reaction to this problem. Telling it's customers to to hold the phone differently or "buy" a bumper was a bush league move and rather amateurish. That would be akin to a Corvette with a harsh shifting problem in 4th gear. Chevrolet tells it's customers to "buy" a shifter cushion that is sells or just shift directly from 3rd to 5th gear and skip 4th. With all that being said, none of this will stop me from buying an iPhone4 the day it comes out with a 64G model (similar to iPod Touch). I am a huge Mac enthusiast, but what really annoys and embarrasses me is the attitude of my fellow MacHeads. They tend to overall be arrogant and apologists for anything that Apple does. It seems like they base their entire self worth on their OS. Their failure to acknowledge that companies other than Apple makes good products is just pitiful. Do I wish that my work had an all Mac network; of course. But I am perfectly content and happy to be working in a Windows 7 environment.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
ssaha 19th Jul 2010
@MichaelWells Michael you may want to check your math. 0.55% of 3 million is 16,500, NOT 165,000. An order of magnitude LESS than what you are stating.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
MichaelWells 20th Jul 2010
@ssaha You are absolutely correct. Sorry about adding the extra zero. My point still stays the same, but my poor key punching needs corrected; thanks for the correction.
0 Votes
+ -
What the hell do I want?
GeoffMichael 26th Jul 2010
@RationalGuy I have an iMac and a MacBook Pro in addition to my two Windows-based laptops and I'm pleased with the quality of all four items.

What do I want from Apple? Admit the "F" up, make it right, and move on.
0 Votes
+ -
Adrian, were you able to see the demos?
Cylon Centurion 16th Jul 2010
Did they affect the signal strength too?
0 Votes
+ -
Antennagate is very real, actually.
drphysx Updated - 16th Jul 2010
The increase in dropped calls, that they reported at the press conference, is HUGE.

Why? Here's the maths:

1 more dropped call per 100. That means, if the drop rate was 2% before, it's now 3%. This is an increase of 50%. Yes, 50.

(btw. the 2% is an estimation I made based on claims from AT&T, who claim 1.44-1.7% and other tests that claim up to 4.5% - in any case, 1% more is HUGE)

Don't let their numbers fool you. If you think about it, it looks like 'Antennagate' is very real and might be even bigger than everyone thought.

It's definitely not overblown, that's for sure. Their numbers, if you think about them, tell a clear story.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
kenosha77a 16th Jul 2010
@drphysx

As Mark Twain once stated, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."

Please refrain from any more "math" to make a point.

If you really wish to impress someone, than figure out the probability of an iPhone 4 owner (currently estimated at 3 million persons worldwide) experiencing a dropped call using an iPhone 4 versus an iPhone 3GS.

Lets see. What are the variables? Are all iPhone 4 users on the AT&T network? Are all iPhone 4 users equally affected by the dropped call rate or does the local area where the phone call is made from affect the dropped call percentage?

And, I'm sure you can come up with ten or more factors that might influence whether iPhone 4 owner (a) has an equal probability of having the same or different rate of dropped calls over iPhone 4 owner (b).

All I know from the facts presented at this press conference is that 99.45 percent of all current iPhone 4 owners have not logged a formal reception complaint.

And from that, I can surmise that 99.45 percent of current owners of iPhone 4 handsets experience performance acceptable to their own personal expectations.
@kenosha7777

It's that simple: AT&T claims their dropped calls rate is 1.44%. Apple says the iPhone 4 drops one more call per 100, that means 2.44% dropped calls.

That's a huge increase and probably makes the iPhone 4 by far the worst phone on the market in terms of reception and dropped calls.

Statistics lie, that's why their claims about this not being an issue are wrong. I don't make the statistics, I'm justthinking about them and not letting them fool me.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
john@... 16th Jul 2010
@kenosha7777 you just don't get it. You're right, it's not a HUGE issue to drop a few calls, which is why there haven't been more returns. The real issue is that Jobs LIED about it. That's all. Stick to that fact, and now try to justify him.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
ryanstrassburg 19th Jul 2010
@drphysx

That is 1 in 100 more than 3GS phones which would make a significant difference of AT&T 1.44% of all customers vs. iPhone3 which is what the comparison was to. So basically double the number of iPhones and maintain the same or similar dropped call rate is what it looks like to me.

Seems the issue was blown out of proportion. Definately a step backwards no matter how small, but this is to be expected of innovation.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
CaptOska 21st Jul 2010
@kenosha7777
at his very best, Mr Twain was a lousy mathematician, and he certainly wasn't a statician.
0 Votes
+ -
@drphysx

... then you can get a free case, or return the phone for a full refund.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
Astranger 16th Jul 2010
@drphysx

It won't matter. They will still buy them, be happy with the bumper, case or whatever they offer to get around the problem. It would only be very small percentage of people that may take a little time before they buy another Apple product. Even then they are likely to end up buying them anyways.

I think more people who have issues with Apple have issues in terms of how they do business than the products, so they just can't wait to see Apple failing on something.

Well, I am waiting to see someone coming up with something definitely better that what Apple can.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
drphysx Updated - 16th Jul 2010
@Astranger "Well, I am waiting to see someone coming up with something definitely better that what Apple can."

Get yourself a Nexus One or Droid Incredible. Same hardware, but Android is better than iOS in every aspect.

And of course, those phones don't drop calls when you hold them. They don't even lose bars, even when you hold them with two hands. Not even one, no matter how you hold them.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
dave95. Updated - 16th Jul 2010
@drphysx

Nope. No other phone ever drop calls in the history of phones, the iPhone is the first phone to have ever drop calls or lose signals. s/

Everyone have some issues with drop calls. The Nexus one on T-Mobile (one of the phone you say don't drop calls) went through the same issue with dropping calls. When I was with T-Mobile, my phone would drop calls often and not work in certain building like large department stores, for the entirely of my contract. Bars would constantly drop down to zero.

Those that reviewed the iPhone 4 all seem to agree that the signal is much better than what they saw on the 3Gs.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
richdave 16th Jul 2010
@Astranger ...Well, I am waiting to see someone coming up with something definitely better that what Apple can...

Well gee, fella! That has been done many times in the past and there's stuff out there now that Apple can't touch. I could tell you all about them, but since your mind is made up, I don't want to confuse you with facts. Not that it matters at all anyway. Once you have found a comfort level, nothing else will do, right? Well, it is your comfort level, and I don't begrudge you that.
0 Votes
+ -
"1" is greater then "1"
Ken_z 17th Jul 2010
@drphysx

Wasn't the figure released by ATT "1"? That could be any number that was less than 1 per 100 calls.

And you still don't know the blend of reception strengths of those 100 calls. Were they in a distribution reflective of use patterns? All in a strong signal area? Your "HUGE" has a bit too much excitement for the numbers presented.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
msalzberg 17th Jul 2010
@drphysx

If you're going to pretend to use math, use the real numbers as given: "Less than 1 more dropped call per 100."
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
GDF 17th Jul 2010
@drphysx
Hate to say it, but our math-deficient friends here don't get it. In a world where perception is important, the perception (AND fact) of 50% more dropped calls is important. But then, the iPhone acolytes will apparently at this point put up with almost anything except rational criticism of the performance of the product.

Another great statistic to bring out - probably also to be ignored by the converts - is the percentage of iWhatevers that have been back for service, especially for things like bricking and blown displays. Personally I think it's huge and I didn't really begin to realize how much of a problem it is until my son's iPod Touch bricked itself and had to be returned. At that point I did some research and was dumbfounded at how large the numbers seem to be - as well as how easily they were being swept under the same "Apple is perfect, don't diss Jobs" rug.
0 Votes
+ -
This isn't about the iPhone4
trickytom2 Updated - 16th Jul 2010
Apple is a company that has sold many exaggerations, myth and mystique, and they've done it very well. Steve Jobs convinced millions of iPad users that they don't need Flash or USB. He convinced us that HTML5 is "right around the corner", and he convinced many people that already existing technology is "new", "magical", and "revolutionary".

But, a funny thing happend. The company that sold all of the that exaggeration is now being hoisted on its own petard. Steve Jobs has been outmarketed by the blogosphere. It had him for lunch on the iPhone4 issue.

The truth is, this issue isn't about a few dropped calls, or even a poorly-designed antenna. It's about sticking it to a guy who's been uber-arrogant and self-important for way too long. It's about leveling the playing-field a bit, but, what it's mostly about is sticking it up Steve's Ass and breaking it off.
0 Votes
+ -
I'm okay with that.
drphysx 16th Jul 2010
@trickytom2 I'm okay with that. Apple and Steve Jobs deserve it.

They've used the words "magical" and "revolutionary" far too often lately. And of course, it's hard to forget those deceptive Mac vs. PC ads. Now their arrogance backfires.

Nevertheless, I think it's about the phone as well. It seems like it's dropping considerably more calls than the previous generation or any other phone. Probably about 50% more dropped calls. That's huge.
0 Votes
+ -
So, you both admit ...
RationalGuy 16th Jul 2010
@trickytom2 & @drphysx

... that this "issue" is more about a petty personal vendetta against a guy just because he takes pride in what his company makes.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
dave95. Updated - 16th Jul 2010
Why do I get the feeling that trickytom2 is paid to stir the pot (troll). There is just no way a sane person can think this way, I won't believe it, nope. Or maybe he's just another of NZ many alter egos.
0 Votes
+ -
@dave95: yeah, I wonder about that stuff too
NonZealot Updated - 16th Jul 2010
Or maybe he's just another of NZ many alter egos.

I wonder if you, athynz, GoPower, People, frgough, Pagan Jim, RationalGuy, CowLauncher, etc. are actually the same person since you all share the same opinion about Apple.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
GoodThings2Life 16th Jul 2010
@trickytom2 ... yeah, I'm totally OK with sticking it to the man. This is the same SOB that has, for 25 years, claimed to be the one that "thinks different" and promotes creativity and uniqueness and yet he sells the most sterile, bland, uncreative, media consumption devices on the planet, and people gobble it up like candy... well here's the problem he failed to notice... the media tends, like candy, to cause a lot of damage when consumed in large quantities, and his devices have allowed a lot of excessive consumption. People are consuming the stories and complaints and so it's all coming back to haunt Steve now. And he's a greedy, lying sack of monkey droppings that deserves to be ridiculed about it!
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
trickytom2 16th Jul 2010
@RationalGuy

It's a defective phone, and Jobs is an arrogant prick...so, its really a "twofer"
0 Votes
+ -
[deleted]
RationalGuy Updated - 16th Jul 2010
[deleted]
0 Votes
+ -
So, the vast majority of people ...
RationalGuy 16th Jul 2010
@trickytom2

... who actually own and use the phone without issue don't factor into your opinion? It's just "defective" even though it's working fine for so many of the nearly two million people who own one?

Why is Jobs arrogant? Because he makes stylish products that are easy for people to use? Because his products are slightly more expensive? Because he controls his company's app store so that it isn't filled with malware like Android's? Because he is an excellent presenter and puts on events that people want to watch? Because he's proud of the products his company makes? Because his marketing team uses adjectives that paint the company in a favorable light?
0 Votes
+ -
Unbelievable
CowLauncher 16th Jul 2010
@trickytom2 and your sweetheart @GoodThings2Life What kind of lowlifes can't seem to stand someone who is passionate and excited about what they create? To the point they can't help but spew vitriol and call names? It's hatred that's all it is. You are so jealous and disrupted by Steve Jobs you can't wait to pick up a pitchfork and join the gang. Is this your big achievement in life? Part of a slobbering mob? A "me too"? Sickening is what it is.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
Pete "athynz" Athens 16th Jul 2010
@trickytom2 If the point is to stick it to a guy who is uber-arrogant, then you are next in line after Jobs...
0 Votes
+ -
Here here
use_what_works_4_U 16th Jul 2010
@athynz
Well said. I used to work for Apple. I've been their customer for well over 2 decades. Steve Jobs is arrogant. He absolutely is a jerk. He is also driven by those very traits to make the best products he can. So far that's worked out well for me. I wouldn't by the man a drink, and I wouldn't want to spend an hour with him. So what? I don't want a friend, I want products that fill my needs. Apple has given me that.
0 Votes
+ -
You're sad
trickytom2 16th Jul 2010
@athynz
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
8632paul 16th Jul 2010
@trickytom2

Keeping on talking trickytom2.

At least it seems like you actually believe what you're saying.

''myth and mystique". Yeah, right.
0 Votes
+ -
Myth and Mystique
trickytom2 16th Jul 2010
@8632paul

You know I'm right...deep down...you know it.
0 Votes
+ -
Oh, I believe it!
trickytom2 16th Jul 2010
@8632paul

The iPad is "magical"? Really? How many drugs do you have to do in order to believe that?

The antenna issue is due to "user error". Again, how high must you be to come with that patheic answer?

The guy is swingin' at air, and you all know it.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
jorjitop 19th Jul 2010
@trickytom2

Schmidt: And Google is a company that makes all its money by spying on its users and selling them ads. At least Apple creates innovative products that people want. Google goes behind the back of their users to spy on them and accumulate a database on them.

Anybody who values their privacy will never use Android. And anybody who does not value their privacy will live to regret it.
0 Votes
+ -
And the Crybaby of the Year Award goes to...
GoodThings2Life Updated - 16th Jul 2010
...Steve Jobs! Yes, it's true, any way you slice it this is his temper tantrum, and it goes a little something like this.

The People shout: "WTF?! Why is my signal so bad? Why am I dropping calls? Damn AT&T!"

Steve says: "Oh, oops, turns out we've been lying to you for 3 years about the strength of your signal! We're gonna fix that for you."

The People: "WTF?! You mean my signal is only 3 bars instead of 5, and 2 bars instead of 4?! Wait... WTF?! Why does it lose bars when I hold it?"

Steve reverts to two year old mode and cries: "Aww schucks, ya'll are just picking on us and blowing it out of proportion... see?! Everybody else is doing it?! Why can't you pick on them!? Why don't they love me any more?! All I've ever done is try to help those poor, helpless people get their music and apps! What did I do to deserve this?! waaaaaaaaaaah!"

Meanwhile, all the Apple-loving fanatics rush to comfort Steve's wallet and reassure him that they still love him, and "don't worry, it's ONLY a small number of people that hate you... and they don't even own your product!"
0 Votes
+ -
I totally agree
NonZealot 16th Jul 2010
@GoodThings2Life
I believe that Apple did the right thing by giving out bumpers and it is what I predicted they would do.

However, Steve Jobs has come out of this looking like a total baby. I personally don't think Apple has come out of this looking that badly but man oh man Steve Jobs sure has!
0 Votes
+ -
Jobs did a pretty good job
Ken_z 16th Jul 2010
@NonZealot

Remembering that Jobs had to talk to a lot of different groups, like bloggers to consumers, I think he did a pretty good job.

Not a lot of problems understanding what he was saying, recognizing the data he presented and feeling comfortable for the future of the iPhone4 sales.

It does, however, present new standards for reviewing smart phones. How does the reception vary in areas where there is a poor signal. If it's important for iPhones then it's important for all brands. We'll see if the "experts" remember that standard.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Jobs:
Loverock Davidson 16th Jul 2010
Apple still leaves the iPhone issue broke. The case is just going to mask the actual problem. Doesn't sound like much of a solution to me.

Join the conversation!

Formatting +
BB Codes - Note: HTML is not supported in forums
  • [b] Bold [/b]
  • [i] Italic [/i]
  • [u] Underline [/u]
  • [s] Strikethrough [/s]
  • [q] "Quote" [/q]
  • [ol][*] 1. Ordered List [/ol]
  • [ul][*] · Unordered List [/ul]
  • [pre] Preformat [/pre]
  • [quote] "Blockquote" [/quote]
ie8 fix
Click Here
ie8 fix

The best of ZDNet, delivered

ZDNet Newsletters

Get the best of ZDNet delivered straight to your inbox

Facebook Activity

White Papers, Webcasts, & Resources
ie8 fix
ie8 fix