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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Microsoft extends Xbox 360 "Red Ring of Death" warranty to cover E74 error

By | April 14, 2009, 12:27pm PDT

Summary: Microsoft has extended the three year “Red Ring of Death” warranty cover it offered to Xbox 360 owners to cover a new fault - the E74 fault.

Microsoft has extended the three year “Red Ring of Death” warranty cover it offered to Xbox 360 owners to cover a new fault - the E74 fault.

Here’s Microsoft knowledge base entry on the change to the warranty:

While the majority of Xbox 360 owners continue to have a great experience with their console, we are aware that a very small percentage of our customers have reported receiving an error that displays “E74” on their screen. After investigating the issue, we have determined that the E74 error message can indicate the general hardware failure that is associated with three flashing red lights error on the console. As a result, we have decided to cover repairs related to the E74 error message under our three-year warranty program for certain general hardware failures that was announced in July 2007. We have already made improvements to the console that will reduce the likelihood of an occurrence of this issue. Detailed information related to the Xbox 360 warranty and resources for those who require repair can be found at www.xbox.com/support (www.xbox.com/support) .

Microsoft will refund to customers the amount paid for an out of warranty repair due to a general hardware failure associated with the e74 error message. Those customers should automatically receive the refund within 4-12 weeks, and no additional action by customers should be necessary. However, if a customer has not received a refund by July 1, 2009, the customer should visit www.xbox.com/support before November 1, 2009 for information on how to place a claim. All refund claims must be received on or before November 1, 2009.

Reports of this problem started appearing around mid-2008 and have been increasing in frequency. Prior to this warranty extension the fault was only covered if it occurred during the first year. Now all customers who paid for repairs should see a refund.

This warranty cover was previously reserved for consoles suffering from the “Red Ring of Death” which appeared to be a CPU/GPU issue. The E74 error seems to be down to the ANA/HANA scaling chip working its way loose.

I know a number of people who have been affected by this issue. I also know quite a few who have bought new consoles because they didn’t want to pay for a repair. This change to the warranty is too late to help them out, which sucks. I also know quite a few people who have been through several consoles, which isn’t a reassuring trend.

On a personal level I’ve wanted an Xbox 360 for some time but have always chickened out of pulling the trigger on a purchase at the last minute several times because I come across a higher than average failure rate for these consoles. This new change to the warranty might change that, but I can’t help but feel that another problem is lurking just around the corner. I think I’d feel better if Microsoft just extended the Xbox 360 warranty to a full three years for all faults.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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RE: Microsoft extends Xbox 360
nicoledoher 12th Jul
Really a very nice topic for me because I'm new just here and I was not aware of it before. Keep up the good posts!
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Anyone here been hit by the ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes 14th Apr 2009
... RRoD or E74 problem?
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RROD last October.
ashdude 14th Apr 2009
It was down for almost 2 weeks due to an address mixup in Microsoft's database. Thank God I still had my PS2.

It started freezing occasionally again last month. Once I get enough money saved up for a PS3, I'll probably trade in the 360.
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This doesn't sound like a new problem
NonZealot 14th Apr 2009
After investigating the issue, we have determined that the E74 error message can indicate the general hardware failure that is associated with three flashing red lights error on the console.

If I understand the statement correctly, this isn't a new problem that is popping up, it is simply that the type of failure that was common in the 1st gen manifests itself as either a RROD or an E74 error. MS is simply saying they will now cover both error messages. I've yet to personally experience or hear of a single problem with the 2nd gen XBox 360 which has been out for quite some time now.

We have already made improvements to the console that will reduce the likelihood of an occurrence of this issue.

This lends credence to my understanding that this is really only hitting gen 1 consoles.
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RE: Microsoft extends Xbox 360
FJRC 14th Apr 2009
I have owned a 360 for about 18 months. I am not a hard core gamer and my kids spend more time on it than I do, but I am using it 2-3 days a week for a couple of hours. Other than one game that stopped working for some reason, I have had no issues. I keep it on top of my entertainment center and not near any other components to avoid heat related problems. If I had to guess, these issues do sound heat related more than anything.
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RE: Microsoft extends Xbox 360
Badgered 14th Apr 2009
My son has a 360 that he's had for about 18 months now. On his the GPU died about 2 months ago, and a screw came loose on the DVD reader that caused some read errors.

No red ring or E74 errors though.
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I had the RRoD.
lostarchitect 14th Apr 2009
I had just bought GTA4, and I was rabid for it.. I actually went straight out and bought another console. I sent my old one in for repairs, and then sold it to a friend when it came back.
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Not surprised...
xXSpeedzXx Updated - 14th Apr 2009
They will likely be supporting this issue till they drop this console for a newer console, like they did with Xbox original.

On another note, and buyer beware, Xbox 360 and the wireless adapter are not compatable with WPA2. Found this out recently when I tried upgrading my network, due to the hacks available for WEP and WPA1. When I asked MS about this, the confirmed it was an issue, but left me with the indication that they were not going to do a thing about it.

Needless to say I am going to buy a 3rd party Wireless N Gaming adapter from Linksys, which supports WPA2, and bypass the Chincy MS adapter. Then I am going to send my MS wireless adapter back to MS C.O.D.
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Very helpful info, thanks!
NonZealot 14th Apr 2009
I am moving and will soon have to go wireless for my media PC and XBox but neither currently have wireless capability. Never thought about using a wireless bridge but that is a fantastic idea! I also didn't realize the XBox adapter didn't support WPA2 so you really saved me a ton of time. Thanks again!
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Seriously. Why do people put up with Microsoft? I still have a working NES, SNES, and a Playstation. Any hope of finding a working 360 ten years from now is pretty much zilch.
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You seem to know what a console should be. Maybe you can get some VC and produce one.
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Apple has the monopoly on that one
NonZealot 14th Apr 2009
Only M$ can turn crap into a best seller.

Um, no, Apple does this time and time again. Apple have yet to release anything that isn't crap.
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Why aren't I surprised
Kaiwai 15th Apr 2009
NonZealot giving his views and yet providing no evidence - anyone
surprised? not me, Same crap, different day.
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ZDNet can't prevent you from clicking on posts by people you don't like. That one's up to you. happy
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so what?
dougie81 15th Apr 2009
I have a working P1 133 in my basement still and a load of dead athlon xp's and p3/p4's

would you like to tell me how awesome the pentium 1 is?

higher rate of failure is the price of higher performance in smaller packages!
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Two problems with that...
ashdude 15th Apr 2009
"I have a working P1 133 in my basement still and a load of dead athlon xp's and p3/p4's

would you like to tell me how awesome the pentium 1 is?

higher rate of failure is the price of higher performance in smaller packages!"


1st problem. Who made your P1 133? I bet it wasn't Microsoft.

2nd problem. The PS3 has the same if not better performance as the 360. But the PS3 doesn't have the high failure rate.
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Badgered 15th Apr 2009
I still have a working NES, SNES, and a Playstation.

And you still play them?
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I do
dragosani 15th Apr 2009
My daughter loves playing Mario on the SNES.

Those old games are still just as much fun to play as they were when new.

The rest of the time I kick back and play on today's superior gaming platform, the PC.

happy
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yep.
lostarchitect 15th Apr 2009
i have a nes, a snes, and a colecovision! they all still work and i pull them out now and again.
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Yes.
ashdude 15th Apr 2009
It's called "classic gaming" and used game stores are rather common. I just bought Descent Maximum for my Playstation today for $10.
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RE: Microsoft extends Xbox 360
plonk@... 15th Apr 2009
They are heat related. I'm on my 3rd console (Best Buy's extended warranty has made it relatively painless...take it in, they give you a new one and *they* deal with MS for return).

First console died 1 month short of 2 years old...just before my extended warranty ran out. It was a RROD problem, which is known to be heat-related (heat warps a circuit board over time, and it shorts out against another.) 2nd console (the replacement) died just short of a year later. That time it was 3 sections red, not all of them. It started locking up more frequently, until eventually it was locking up within a minute of powering up...seems very heat-related to me.

The 3rd console is only a month old, and so far so good. I've added an external fan to it, which I'm hoping will extend the life. MS went with appearance over function in their case design (I'm not surprised...they do that with all their stuff), and that's where the heat problems come from.
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RE: Microsoft extends Xbox 360
plonk@... 15th Apr 2009
I looked at the price for the "wireless gaming adapter", noted that it was 3-4 times what a WAP costs, and that the console has an ethernet adapter built-in. Easy calculation let to just plugging the console into a WAP for about $30. Works fine, and as far as the console is concerned, it's on an ethernet, not wireless. The WAP takes care of all the wireless stuff.
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timmypol 10th Jul 2009
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Really a very nice topic for me because I'm new just here and I was not aware of it before. Keep up the good posts!

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