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Mossberg, Baig and Levy pass judgment on the MacBook Air - Beautiful, but a compromise

By | January 24, 2008, 5:28am PST

Summary: Mossberg, Baig and Levy have passed judgment on Apple’s MacBook Air. The conclusion - Beautiful, but a compromise.

Mossberg, Baig and Levy have passed judgment on Apple’s MacBook Air.  The conclusion - Beautiful, but a compromise.

MacBook AirLet’s start by looking at what Walt Mossberg had to say:

Apple finally has entered the subnotebook market, introducing a lightweight laptop meant to please road warriors. But, typical of Apple, the company took a different approach from its competitors. The result is a beautiful, amazingly thin computer, but one whose unusual trade-offs may turn off some frequent travelers.

He’s clear on the trade-offs:

But then there are those trade-offs. The sealed-in battery means you can’t carry a spare in case you run out of juice, and you have to bring it to a dealer when you need a new one. There’s no built-in DVD drive. The thin case can’t accommodate a larger internal hard disk. And the machine omits many common ports and connectors.

Mossberg carries out his own battery tests:

In my standard battery test, where I disable all power-saving features, set the screen brightness at maximum, turn on the Wi-Fi and play an endless loop of music, the MacBook Air’s battery lasted 3 hours, 24 minutes. That means you could likely get 4.5 hours in a normal work pattern, almost the five hours Apple claims.

And finally, the conclusion:

If you value thinness, and a large screen and keyboard in a subnotebook, and don’t watch DVDs on planes or require spare batteries, the MacBook Air might be just the ticket. But if you rely on spare batteries, expect the usual array of ports, or like to play DVDs on planes, this isn’t the computer to buy.

Baig’s review is also mixed.  The positive:

The MacBook Air laptop that CEO Steve Jobs unveiled last week turns heads. And now that I’ve used this Twiggy-thin, 3-pound marvel for several days, I can also report that it’s a remarkably sturdy-feeling machine, especially given its size and weight.

And the negative:

But with too few ports, a sealed battery that you can’t replace on your own and no built-in CD/DVD drive, Air is not the ideal laptop for everyone. And while battery power is impressive, it pooped out in my tests well short of the best-case, five-hour scenario Apple has been touting.

Baig is nowhere near as impressed with the battery as Mossberg:

Air’s battery life is decent. I got about three hours and 40 minutes as I surfed the Web, used Remote Disc and wrote. The battery died an hour sooner when I watched The Cooler, but I made it through the movie. On a long flight, it would be nice to carry a spare, but unfortunately you can’t replace a battery yourself. Apple sells and installs batteries for $129.

Levy loves how skinny the MacBook Air is:

Certainly Apple has fulfilled its goals in terms of thinness. The Air is a lithe sheath of aluminum so slim that it can slide under my office door.  Packed inside the shell–which is three quarters of an inch at its thickest point, trailing off to a wispy 0.16 inches–is two gigabytes of memory, a bright 13.3-inch screen (lit by cutting-edge LED technology) and a full-size keyboard.

But even he gets back to the compromises:

But in service of slimness, something had to go, and depending on how you use computers, these compromises might either be negligible or deal killers. To maintain its Zen-like profile, the Air has a minimal selection of ports–one USB, one for video output to a bigger screen, and a single jack for earphones. That’s it.

Levy also thinks that the hard drive is too small:

More disturbingly to power users, the maximum built-in storage option–the only one–is an 80-gigabyte hard drive. Apple insists that if it used the 160-gig hard disk drive it offers in its high-end iPod classic, it would blow the profile of the MacBook Air. Eighty gigs isn’t much these days; you can get a bigger drive on even Apple’s low-end MacBook.

Levy draws a somewhat gloomy conclusion:

These omissions are troubling–especially to someone in a down-turning economy deciding whether to spend a premium sum for a computer with subpremium storage.

Thoughts: I’d expected the reviews by Mossberg, Baig and Levy to have focussed more on the positive aspects of the MacBook Air and less on the negatives, and after reading all three reviews I’m left with the feeling that while all three love the compact size and sexy aluminum chassis, the compromises present a problem.  The truth is that most ultraportables are a compromise, it’s just that the MacBook Air takes minimalism to a whole new level.  The way I see it, the macBook Air is caught in the crossfire between the small hard drive and only one USB port, limiting both storage and expension.  It all depends on what’s important to the buyer - small size or features.

One thing’s for sure - the MacBook Air is no iPhone.

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CanadianTrooper 22nd Feb 2008
'nough said. Add the fact that it's runs the Apple OS and no, we are not interested in Windows or Linux for home use. I work in Windows, not interested in Linux and play on Macs. Powerusers will always find something better so buy what winds your crank.
As to Walt being an Applefanboy, well you have to sling mud when you have nothing better to offer.
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If only
mtgarden 24th Jan 2008
they had left in an ethernet and granted a removable battery. Everything else would have been fine.

This is really to early for such a device. Wireless isn't yet prevelant enough to warrant the lack of ethernet.
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Women
Harry Bardal 24th Jan 2008
What human needs are being met with an extra battery and ethernet? They are
backups for this machines primary connectivity and power. This may not be the
computer for mission critical jobs, but it dares to cut the cord and gives you this
new option, when the old options are still available.

What about it's virtues? Good looks. Yes I guess so, but to dwell on it is to miss the
point. This computer is tailor made for a certain demographic that just happens to
represent half the population. Weight is critical, size is critical. As a bunch of dudes
weigh in on how this may not be powerful enough for them, women are seeing
their priorities addressed.

Well ha, just like Apple, that maker of fashion accessories to pander to the fairer
sex with a hobbled portable? That's their gig right? Pandering? Many would have
you believe it. That argument works until the 8 core towers that Apple also just
released are brought up.

A single computer is not going to be all things to all people. Neither is a single
platform. The floppy disc is gone, the hard drives get smaller monthly, the wireless
is faster and more ubiquitous. 8 months into the Air's life it could be iterated. 16
months in, it will be validated. It needn't be by you.
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Will Apple fire you
GuidingLight 24th Jan 2008
if one day you actually wrote the truth, instead of the press release Apple emails you for posting on these sites?

A valid question that will one day in itself be validated, though it needn't be by you wink
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Have you dropped on your head?
SMassop 25th Jan 2008
What kind of crazy thing are you raving about?!! Are you kidding me??!! Please don't blame half the population for your own ignorance. What priorites are women seeing addressed here? Not being able to watch a DVD without carrying around the external DVD attachement, not being able to connect to the internet unless they happen to also purchase the external ethernet port? Not being able to save much of anything becasue of the size of the hard-drive? Exactly which concerns were addressed?
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Exactly which concerns were addressed?

Did you forget? Apple isn't about function - it's ALL about form. To borrow from Billy Crystal's character Fernando from Saturday Night Live many moons ago: "It's better to look good than to feel good."

Tho, in this case, it would make more sense to say "It's better to look good than to be fully productive."

Face it. Women are more fashion concious than men.
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So you'll be purchasing one?
James Quinn 25th Jan 2008
Pagan jim
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Not me Jimbo...
Wolfie2K3 25th Jan 2008
I was just explaining ol' Harry's POV to the previous poster. I don't know everything about women, but I do know SOMEthing about 'em.

And if you doubt me - just count the number and type of shoes in your wife/girlfriend's closet. Most guy's have 2 maybe 3 pair. Most women (with the exception of Imelda Marcos) have several. Ones that are "sensible" and those that are not.
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Are you sure you know what women want?
CanadianTrooper 22nd Feb 2008
My daughter and a coworker who already has the large Macbook Pro have both said that this is what they want. My daughter is ordering one with her income tax refund.
Lightweight, good screen size and nothing they don't need. The external DVD drive will stay at home for my daughter. She uses one every few months. The external ethernet dongle is the same. As the owner of a 12" Powerbook (bought for size and weight), I understand the lure of the Air.
Think of it as the difference between a simple pocket knife and a Swiss Army knife. Not everyone needs to carry the swiss army knife all the time.
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...I can see where you think they gave a less than stellar review. However, if you would quote the full conclusions from all 3 reviewers, you'll get a better and more fully painted picture for the reviews:

Baig:
"Given the compromises, I don't expect anyone to use Air as their only computer. But it is a yummy machine for people who spend a lot of time traveling."

This is were I think a lot of people are missing the boat, it's for a traveler and someone who does it A LOT.

Levy:
"These omissions are troubling--especially to someone in a down-turning economy deciding whether to spend a premium sum for a computer with subpremium storage. Still, simply using the MacBook Air, as I'm doing right now in writing this review, is rather copasetic. Though I can quibble with a few of Apple's choices of what to take off, the product's dimensions and design make the case that the losses were not in vain. The things that Apple left on were the ingredients for a quality computer. And did I mention how thin it is?"

Mossberg (this is the conculsion that I think fits your mold AKH):
"If you value thinness, and a large screen and keyboard in a subnotebook, and don?t watch DVDs on planes or require spare batteries, the MacBook Air might be just the ticket. But if you rely on spare batteries, expect the usual array of ports, or like to play DVDs on planes, this isn?t the computer to buy."
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It should be obvious that the Air is NOT for everyone. In fact nor for MOST I'd dare
say. Its certainly NOT for me and my needs. However I would also say that ANYONE
who claims that it can not be a useful tool to some is a blank. (FIll in your own
negative phase)

Pagan jim
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No, you did well
rapson 24th Jan 2008
You made that point clear early on. There are those who don't like Apple or its products, and will complain about anything (just as there are those who will jump into any story about Microsoft with rants about monopolies). It's better to ignore those on both sides.

That said, however, Apple's status as a cutting-edge technology leader leaves it open to review and criticism, even by those who don't use the products. Just as Microsoft is a target by virtue of its market status. What Apple does affects the rest of the industry, same as Microsoft. It's all fair game.

Carl Rapson
in a blog specifically about the battery issue. Nobody disagreed with your repetitive rants about it not being for everyone.


They were just staying on topic is all.
And for that blog, the battery is hands down the notebook's weakest link thereby making a sealed battery a negative overall.

That was my final opinion.

yours was to waver between saying it's not for everyone, yet defending it by saying nobody needs anything more than exactly what comes on teh MBA. Quite a contrast of views and neither addressed the topic at hand. So therre you go.
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Not what I said....
James Quinn 24th Jan 2008
The none user replaceable battery is ONLY a problem if it is needed to say it is a
flaw or failure is to assume that it is indeed needed by those who choose to
purchase said knowing all along that this is part and parcel of it's design. To
complain that is a user replaceable batter "IS" needed is akin to saying that no one
could find the Air useful asa tool which was and is my point. It is foolish to
complain about a design before the public makes it's decision known. Before we
find out if a certain segment of the population purchases it and before we get
feedback for said.

It only seemed too me that you and others like you seemed to be stuck on the
concept that the replaceable batter was needed and not only for your needs but for
everyone's needs. I tend to doubt that but only time will tell......

As for the blogs comments about the battery being the Air's greatest problem or
flaw again how would the blogger know. The Air has not failed on the market it
hasn't had the change to prove itself one way or the other. What if the Air proves
to be a success will the none user replaceable battery be touted as one of it's
greatest features? That the segment of the population that purchased said did not
find it a negative and in fact liked having one less thing to deal with?

I remember this same thing being said about the iPod and later the iPhone yet it has
not proven to be a problem for either product. I know I know a laptop is different
but wasn't that the complaint about the iPhone that a phone was different than a
simple MP3 player and the need for a spare battery greater?

Pagan jim
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Hrmm...
ivanotter 25th Jan 2008
I think I figured out why you rankle me so much on your posts here.

you are REALLY smarmy. Very elitist "sounding" on your posts (or elitist appearing maybe since technically you are not "saying" anything).

You act like the stereotypical Apple Fanboy (TM).

We all know things are compromises to a point. Sometimes things compromise too much and fail. People see it from a mile away. I don't think the Air will fail becuase there is too much fanbase for "style" that way out trumps shortcomings. the iPhone is proof of that. It has way to many shortcomings in my PERSONAL OPINION, but MAN is it sexy.

Same with the Air. As someone who DOES use a laptop away from power a whole lot, a replaceable battery is something paramount for me. Heck, my HTC Mogul i am purchasing an extended battery for it, since I use it a bit


My roundabout point? Quit being so smarmy. So...I can't think of a better word...egotistical maybe? you act like Apple just Cannot Fail, and those that say this may not be that great of a laptop you go on an attack of things like:

"As for the blogs comments about the battery being the Air's greatest problem or flaw again how would the blogger know"

Let's see... LOTS of industry experience maybe? I don't know particularly which blogger you were talking about for that.

And to prove you wrong on one of your arguments (dealing with batteries):

"I remember this same thing being said about the iPod and later the iPhone yet it has not proven to be a problem for either product."

Thats funny:
http://www.macobserver.com/article/2004/02/10.6.shtml - Apple Sued Over iPod Battery Problems

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-5843768.html - Judge OKs settlement in iPod battery suit

http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

http://www.macintouch.com/reliability/ipodfailures.html Partially about the batteries

So no...There HAS been issues with the "non-replaceable" batteries in the past, including a lawsuit (the only reason MAC started offering the extended warranties for battery replacement).

So yes, for something as critical as a LAPTOP, I would not be comfortable with a NRP, and neither should most people.
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Apple did not hide the battery issue I found odd) but what I said or meant to say
was that a LOT of people have purchased the iPod and while not as many have
purchased the iPhone it is more expensive and fairly young compared to the iPod
so no the battery issue even in the more vital iPone (since it is a phone after all)
does not seem to be a problem.

As for my Elitist style..... I do have my fun. What can I say.

Sure for some even many the battery in the Air is an issue but only time and the
consumer will write the final chapter on this.

Pagan jim
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about the battery is this and again this strikes me as well plain too see. If you do
need spare batteries it should be obvious the Air is NOT for you. Same with the
iPod and iPhone (which still confuses me about the lawsuits) No one not even a
"fanboy" like myself makes the claim that every product Apple makes is for
everyone. We expect that different folk have different needs hence the whole
different models thing. Why do I even have to say this? It's weird that someone
who needs a Truck goes to an SUV show room and complains about the lack of
Truck like features on an SUV. It's just strange too me that if you really do need a
battery and Apples design of the Air is not for you that it concerns you to this
extent we all know it does no come with the ability to put in spare batteries and
granted that is a part of any decision weather or not to purchase one but your
needs nor mine are in fact UNIVERSAL and the Air could succeed despite your
needs of pardon my counter claim of arrogance on your end despite the assumtion
that the Air will only sell to the style crowd of which I the drive of a 1989 Honda
Civic Hatchback am not. That to is a rather elitist view don't you think?

Pagan jim
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Bloggers
brble 25th Jan 2008
People frequently like to read the opinions of others about products they're interested in, and get their take on it. Kind of like a movie review. While I certainly won't make up my mind about what movies I like based on what a reviewer says, I might put seeing a certain movie at the bottom of my list if the vast majority of reviewers don't like it.

Most of the bloggers making comments about the MBA are doing sort of a review of its features, and offering their opinions. It might even be possible that there are some inexperienced users who don't know what issues having a non-user-replaceable might create, and reading these opinions might educate them. Then they can decide for themselves whether or not it is right for them, but from a more informed position (the battery issue is much less obvious than the difference between a truck and an SUV, especially to the non-technical types - Apple's target market, for the most part).

So, as you say, the MBA is not for everyone, but where do you suggest people who are not familiar with its features/limitations go to learn enough to decide if it is right for them? An Apple store? Is there maybe some, more objective source for them?
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ivanotter 25th Jan 2008
I will say honestly, the Battery is the ONLY reason I dislike the Mac Air. I can live without the ethernet, never used the IE1394, the intel graphics i can even deal with (this is off the top of my head, pardon me if it does have a different graphics chipset).

I just know (as i said before in the battery thread, and posted links backing up my claims) those batteries have a very limited life, more limited than the time I use a laptop (going on...(looks) 3-4 years for my T42).

Built in DVD is nothing for me. Yeah it is a nice FEATURE, but honestly...I have ahd a laptop without, and I did not miss it too much as long as I had an external drive to use when needed.

Its just the battery.
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Not just the battery
rhomp2002@... 25th Jan 2008
I don't care how small the laptop is. If you are carrying around dongles and dvd external drives and maybe even USB multi-hub attachments so you can actually do something with your computer, then you are negating the whole light weight and thin case of the laptop. Where were you intending to get those other devices you need if you don't carry them with you and if you carry them with you why bother with the thin case at all. Then also just make sure you never get too far away from a wireless network you can get to and make sure you have someone else who will give up their use of the DVD on their computer to put yours on so you can use that.

This whole device smells like a badly designed boondoggle to play one-up on the other laptops. "I got a laptop thinner than you so nah nah nah." Of course you can't use it but that doesn't matter.
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cashaww 4th Feb 2008
What do you carry with you? If this does not suit your needs, DO NOT buy one. This
would actually suit my daughter in University, and my wife on the road. Both of them
could set up docking stations when they are at home base. This is what most people
do with laptops, correct?
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The point is that we Mac users have been waiting two years for a true ultraportable. Personally, I have resisted buying a Sony T series during that time, and I have lugged my MacBook around waiting to lose some weight.
This MBA is a huge disappointment, being too big, too heavy, and too restricted, and deserves to fail. Maybe that will teach Steve Jobs to listen to his customers a bit more, and less to his ego.
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Yes it is.....
James Quinn 24th Jan 2008
The Air was built for a specific client type. just because you are not it does not mean
it is a failure. The only way it can be a failure is if that particular client either does not
exist or exists and still does not purchase the Air. I don't know if you are the kind of
client the Air was designed for I suspect not.

Pagan jim
The air solves a problem that doesn't exist. Weight and size, but not thickness were the problems. While in operation (aka, open) it takes up the a rather large physical footprint, too large for many commuter flights.
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Tru Dat....
James Quinn 25th Jan 2008
It recently occurred to me that Apple has not called it a sub or ultra but rather a
notebook I think (correct me if I'm wrong) and there for it just might be the thinnest
notebook being that Apple claims it is in the notebook class. This might explain a lot
of confusion on a lot of people's parts.

Pagan jim
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problem is
ivanotter 25th Jan 2008
As it seems from most of the comments, it is designed for too small of a market. Nowadays, even my mom (who is not tech savvy) understands some basics, every time she buys a new computer, she makes sure she has a spare battery. She travels a lot, and likes a laptop that looks nice, and is not too heavy. She just bought (or should I say was issued through her school she works for) a new small Dell (the model escapes me off hand, I would have to go ask her again).

She would be exactly, I would imagine, someone who the Air is being "marketed" for. Stylish, slim.

But... no replaceable battery.
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At last Jim we agree on an Apple topic
Paul Fletcher 25th Jan 2008
as you say - for most people it is too much compromise - personally I stick by my original premise that it could have been an AMAZING product with a 270 degree hinge on the display and making it multi touch - heck if it did that and was even a couple of hundred bucks more I would buy one in a flash
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"Pushing" the future
j.m.galvin 24th Jan 2008
Ever since the original iMac, Apple has not been shy about ?pushing? the future. The iMac dropped serial ports for USB at a time when USB printers were non-existent. They also dumped the floppy drive. Apple dumped its normal SCSI port for firewire when no firewire devices existed. They?ve dropped modems from their machines. They have not been shy about this.

The original iBook was the first notebook with built in wireless. Apple banked on the fact that schools and some consumers would find it easier to set up a network with Airport, reducing the expense and problems caused by wires. Nobody had really pushed wireless networking before this.

When they introduced the iPod many asked what it was good for. How many people would actually ?buy? music over the web? Any number of people speculated that it was very handy as a portable backup device, making it easy to take large files home from the office, etc. Initial iPod sales were not exactly earth shattering.

Right now Apple is banking heavily on wireless. Both the iPhone and Ipod Touch evidence this. They are thinking that wireless connectivity will be virtually ubiquitous. They are banking on far more services being available over that wireless web. Yesterday?s AT&T announcement about giving free hotspot use to its broadband customers at 10,000 locations is an indication of that trend. You do not need huge amounts of storage if your documents are available online. Such storage is readily available today from outfits like Box.com or even .Mac.

Further, they have positioned the Air as a second machine for pure road work. The ONLY advantage it has over a Macbook is weight. To a certain segment of the population that weight is a big thing. To envision the half weight difference, just put 2 regular notebooks in a bag and pick it up. Then take one out and feel the difference when you pick up the bag again. Then realize that many women, with far less upper body strength, have to use notebook computers on business travel. The 3 pound difference is significant.

My guess is that only a tiny fraction of notebook users even buy an extra battery, never mind carry one. I?m sure that Apple?s market research has been quite thorough in analyzing this. My own company?s experience is that we have never bought, or had to replace, any notebook batteries before the notebooks became hopelessly outdated. The last batch we threw out were circa 2000 iBooks ? replaced this past summer. If second batteries were common, you?d find many makers of outboard battery charging products so you could keep 2 charged.

The Air is a specific product, directed at a specific market segment. Apple is banking on that segment growing, and is actively pushing it. Whether the machine is a little too far thinking will be seen in its sales.
it's another dongle, just the slim-line version.
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Pagan jim
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D T Schmitz Updated - 30th May 2008
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Holy crap that was hilarious
laura.b 25th Jan 2008
I nearly fell out of my desk chair when it was propped up over the toilet.

ROFL!

Great stuff.
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Life is like a box of dongles......
James Quinn 25th Jan 2008
Is it a parody of Oprah or the Air I can't tell which? Still it is funny. Almost as funny
as your dongle obsession, but you should learn from Oprah by now that obsession
even a dongle one is not a sign of a healthy id or ego. Seek help maybe you and
Oprah can do a show?

The Dongle Delusion......(Do you see Dongles everywhere you look?) You may
suffer too.

Pagan jim
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see what i mean?
ivanotter 25th Jan 2008
Egotistical Fan Boy (TM)
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Oh come on that's just funny......
James Quinn 25th Jan 2008
Besides he started it with the whole Dongle thing and he keeps on a doing it so fair
play is fair play and I do like too play.

Pagan jim
like it's a BAD thing.... silly Boy, if Apple released the Second Coming, the Windoze jihadists would STILL come out of the woodwork frothing, wouldn't they?

With that said, I don't think this-gen Macbook Air is for me, either. Let's see how it shakes down by third-gen, once Apple (and us) find out just how important the replaceable battery, built-in Ethernet port and optical drive are to most people - and once the prices start to come down to a more realistic level given the specs....
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Ultra-mobile always costs more...
nix_hed 1st Feb 2008
...or is god-awful slow. Either way, expect gen2 to have a Core2 45mm ULV processor that uses less power and has more performance, and possibly a new version of that 1.8 inch hard drive with more space (doubting the 160 GB drive, but probably a 120 GB).

BTW, my problem with this notebook isn't the slower processor or the small hard drive for the price, but the lack of firewire and ethernet. USB2 is limited, and Apple already had the 1 USB port notebook. (Remember the clamshell iBook? It looked like a colorful toilet seat and had 1 USB port too...) Also add a user-swappable battery the size of an iPod Nano, give it some case color choices (black aluminum would be sweet), and they might have something.

Heck, I'd even take having firewire, ethernet, and a real video port on a "dock" module if it came down to it.
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That's classic! NT
brble 25th Jan 2008
NT
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Looks are everything?
nextwave 24th Jan 2008
If "looks are everything", then why buy this, since it really doesn't have any "looks".

How could it possibly be any more plain?
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I agree (NT)
NonZealot 24th Jan 2008
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Thanks!
nextwave 24th Jan 2008
Finally!!! Another sane human being. Thank you.
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mies disagrees.
lostarchitect 24th Jan 2008
ludwig mies van der rohe (considered by many to be one of the greatest architects of the 20th century), famously said "less is more", and influenced generations of architects and designers after him.
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well that's too bad
nextwave 24th Jan 2008
Well, he was influential. But that's a bad thing. It's only recently that we've been recovering from this influence.
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that's funny.
lostarchitect 24th Jan 2008
no, really. that's funny.
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What's funny?
nextwave 24th Jan 2008
What's "funny"?
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What would you prefer?
Tigertank 24th Jan 2008
mere decoration meant to hide the objects form, or establishing a sublime in the form of the object. Mies Van Der Rohe, Le corbusier etc. are so influential because they understood this and overcame the insidiousness of historical style. Minimalism is probably the most intellectually pure mode of representation because dismisses the unnessasary.
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lostarchitect 24th Jan 2008
that you think Mies' influence was negative. Wow! That tells me what your opinions on design are worth.
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Mies, etc.
nextwave 26th Jan 2008
"It's funny that you think Mies' influence was negative. Wow! That tells me what your opinions on design are worth."

Personal insults - classy!

The best example I know, personally, of the pernicious influence of the International and Minimalist school of Architecture is along Lake Shore Drive in Chicago, just North of Grant Park.

Driving North, on the right is the Lake with an almost infinite, beautiful, sacred horizon.

On the left is the city, a mix of beautiful, classical old buildings and Internationalist Style glass and steel boxes.

The International Style buildings are uniformly banal, ugly, uninteresting, dull, cold, boring and insipid. They come pretty close to ruining one of the most beautiful urban drives in America.

The contrast is pretty striking - and it really highlights the visual bankruptcy of the International Style.

If you made a list of buildings that are most valued and loved, that people make pilgrimages to, that are the subjects of the most coffee-table books, that are the most well-known and most highly regarded and talked-about, that are iconic, I think you might include the Chrysler Building, the Sistine Chapel, Radio City Music Hall, Gehry's Bilbao museum, almost anything by Antoni Gaudi, the Vatican, Taj Mahal, the Sydney Opera House, the Empire State Building, Fallingwater and pretty much anything by Wright, and then of course much of the architecture from the ancient world too. I'm sure I'm leaving out many important examples.

Which International Style or Minimalist buildings would sit on that list? Few, or none.

And the International/Minimalist influence on furniture is another crime. Let's substitute black leather, chrome, and glass, for wood and warm, soft fabrics. Wonderful.

Pernicious is my favorite word for all this visual trash.

And as for Apple "design", even though there is a common thread of minimalist ugly, the frequency of their design changes speaks volumes as to the lasting value of Apple visual style.
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wow... just...wow...
ivanotter 25th Jan 2008
If you haven't noticed, cars are not as... extravagant looking as before, more minimalist in style.

Architecture is more minimalist, (for better and worse).

the iPhone is popular (and hey i admit looks SEXY) becuase it is minimalist looking.

I like my T42 becuase it is very minimalist. It doesnt ahve fancy chrome, shiny lights.

People laugh at "ricers" who over-adorn thier cars with pointless stickers, bad body kits, oversized wheels. They ruin the minimalism.


Minimalism is good to a large extent. Can there be too much of a good things? naturally yes. It is a balance.

The Air tips it too far, but only with just one item really. It is sleek, sexy...and the size of a notebook (as in the paper kind).

so no, minimalism ISN'T dead. And you sounded like a daft fool
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Sexy?
nextwave 26th Jan 2008
"And you sounded like a daft fool"

Personal insults? Lame.

So, it's not enough to abuse the word "beautiful".

Now we must abuse the word "sexy".

Marilyn Monroe was sexy. The iPhone and Air are not.
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Tigertank: minimalism
nextwave 24th Jan 2008
"mere decoration meant to hide the objects form, or establishing a sublime in the form of the object. Mies Van Der Rohe, Le corbusier etc. are so influential because they understood this and overcame the insidiousness of historical style. Minimalism is probably the most intellectually pure mode of representation because dismisses the unnessasary."

This is one of the most pernicious ideas I've ever heard.

You're scaring me.
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2 pounds!
CanadianTrooper 22nd Feb 2008
'nough said. Add the fact that it's runs the Apple OS and no, we are not interested in Windows or Linux for home use. I work in Windows, not interested in Linux and play on Macs. Powerusers will always find something better so buy what winds your crank.
As to Walt being an Applefanboy, well you have to sling mud when you have nothing better to offer.

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