My MacBook Pro Experience - A few days left!

My MacBook Pro Experience - A few days left!

Summary: The MacBook Pro is in my possession for a few more days - what would you like to see covered?

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The MacBook Pro is in my possession for a few more days (until the end of the week I think) - what would you like to see covered? 

I'm going to have a play with CrossOver tonight and I've a post planned on my thoughts on some of the software that comes pre-installed on the Mac. 

Some have suggested that I test how resilient the Mac is against viruses and such.  The thing is that I've had to be careful what I do with this machine since I don't want to trash the OS at all - Apple didn't send me a copy of the OS!

So. fire away.  Let me know what you'd like to see and I'll see what I can do.

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  • Virus Testing

    I think you would be hard pressed to find a virus that would effect OSX. So even if you did have an install disc, I doubt you could damage the OS via virii.

    I would be interested on your take of comparing iMovie/iDVD to MS's version of Windows movie maker. Assuming you do video editing.
    Stuka
    • Garageband is worth a look too

      Good point on the virus testing--how would you actually test?

      I'd also recommend playing some with GarageBand, even if you're not a musician. You can take a song file from iTunes and edit it up to get a sense of the program, or just record some spoken text.
      tic swayback
      • I think that's . . .

        the appealing thing about the Mac. There's a bunch of GOOD software that comes with it, that you have to pay GOOD money for on the Windows side of the equation . . .
        jlhenry62
  • iLife

    One of the primary things that has worked for my family is iLife, in particular iPhoto and Appleworks. As one who uses MS Office daily (work required), I know that shifting between the two types of packages is a bit difficult but "do" able. As my handle indicates, I may not be normal or unbiased, so I look forward to your take on what this package of apps may offer a MS Office user - if they were considering the switch. Additionally Apple has touted, and I agree to some level, that additional packages are not necessary to purchase (thus buying a bare PC with Win on it is just the floor for most folks) and so add-on software costs should be factored in for the comparision between Windows and Mac. I am curious to see if non-Mac folks would consider iLife a non-starter and so throw out that "advantage".
    Thanks for your informative reports on your dance with the "dark side". ; - )
    Jim888
  • Mac disadvantages

    I love my iMac, but I found the following disadvantages:

    A) Safari doesn't work with Google Docs. However, there is a version of Firefox that does work with Gdocs.

    B) Mac Open/Save dialog boxes don't behave the same way as their Windows counterparts. A user can't delete or move files during an Open operation on a Mac. This is by design, but not as useful as Windows.

    C) Microsoft Office for Mac doesn't have the same look and feel of MS Office for Windows. Things seem to work. I can use my Mac .doc and .xls files at work and vice-versa. However, I like the way Office for Windows looks.
    mcritz
    • Office

      Office for Mac is designed by a whole different group of people. Personally I prefer the mac version, as I find a cleaner layout. But everybody has their own personal choice.
      Stuka
      • Two words

        Formatting palette. It saves me so much time when working in Word I can't stand to
        be on the Windows version anymore.
        frgough
    • Try Open Office (www.openoffice.org)

      as for "c"
      I have tried OpenOffice (unfortunately runs under X11 for now on the Mac - they are developing a native app conversion now) and it seems to behave well. You may want to try that for free and see what you think for appearance sake. I did install it on my parent's Windows PC to get rid of answering WordPerfect questions over the phone with them (runs native in Windows). It converted Wordperfect and the few Word docs /Excel sheets they had with no problem. I will mention that my wife hates it as she is used to the Appleworks in iLife and does not see a need to change. She was a former Word user.
      Good Luck.
      Jim888
  • Break from Windows

    Don't waste any more time running Windows. This is supposed to be about the
    divergent experience. Install some shareware and demos, try a Mac game, set up
    some automated tasks in automator. Strive to duplicate functions that you're used
    to and depend on with the PC using Mac equivalents. Put function before brand.
    Consider measuring your productivity in 1/4 second intervals and value your time
    highly. Read Winn Schwartu's (a security expert) account of switching. Understand
    TCO has more to do with your time than the cost of hardware.

    http://securityawareness.blogspot.com/2005/09/mad-as-hell-switching-to-
    mac-1-16.html

    There has to be a understanding that 0's and 1's don't have allegiance to any one
    vendor. The allegiance of the user on the other hand is based exclusively on which
    vendor gets their money. It's that simple. The "I have a dream of computing
    equality" speech doesn't register. It never will. In the end, we all have to put our
    money where our mouth is.

    Finally, there may have been past complaints with Microsoft. You may have had
    concerns about your treatment as a customer, or you might have reasons to
    believe you will have issues in future. IMHO writing them cheques is not the way
    to issue complaints. IMHO blogging complaints is ineffectual without playing a
    role in altering the market dynamic. Windows users who care about the future of
    the platform should send a message. The only kind that gets heard. I firmly
    believe that the best possible way to improve the Windows platform, is to buy a
    Mac. Isn't the influence already obvious?

    Either way, the decision will come from an informed place. It will be the right
    decision for you, and more power to you for making this effort. Remember also
    that you act as an advocate, and that others will stand to benefit from your
    informed conclusions.
    Harry Bardal
    • Re: Break from Windows

      Would it be a shattering experience? *groan*

      [i]Originally posted by: Harry Bardal

      This is supposed to be about the divergent experience. Install some shareware and demos, [b]try a Mac game[/b], set up some automated tasks in automator.[/i]

      Give the guy a break, he hasn't got time to spend hours/days/months/years trying to find a Mac game!

      [i]Originally posted by: Harry Bardal

      Consider measuring your productivity in 1/4 second intervals.[/i]

      Does the interval that you are measuring in somehow improve the results? If so, surely nanoseconds would be the order of the day ;-)

      Maybe you should read [url=http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/06/02/when-the-bough-breaks]When the bough breaks[/url] and read why an avid age-old Mac user decided enough was enough with Apple and moved BACK to PC hardware.

      BTW: Did you know that Apple and Evil are the same word in Latin [i]malum[/i].
      Scrat
      • Now you've done it!!!

        Now we'll get a 270,000 word diatribe from Harry on the inherent evils of anything that isn't from Apple . . .Shame on you for making us suffer through that! <snicker>
        jlhenry62
  • It really doesn't look like you've done much

    Your posts indicate that you just sort
    of fiddled with the thing and never
    attempted to put it through its paces
    or run any of the myriad things that
    come with it.

    If you look in the applications folder,
    including utilities, you'd find all sorts
    of stuff to play around with.

    Your last post was about the box the
    thing comes in. Nobody cares about
    the box.
    j.m.galvin
  • Preferred for media?

    I suppose I could research this elsewhere, but hey, you are in the middle of it. Good or bad, as a PC user, I've enjoyed reading your take.

    With the ability to run Vista AND the Mac OS, (even with a few 'gotchas' like the corrupting system restore thing), I am seriously considering taking the leap to Apple since, if true, I would not have to give-up my PC software collection and Photoshop might run faster.

    I still wonder how much better my true passion, Photoshop (and it's related tasks) actually runs on a MacBook Pro.

    As a professional photographer (and other media person) disguised as a chiropractor, I feel like I could almost say I am a (potential) Mac user disguised as a(n actual) PC user. (Does that make any sense?)

    Thanks again,

    drcarl
    drcarl
    • It would run lousy

      If you mean the Mac version of Photoshop, it's
      not been updated for intel macs yet and won't
      be available until spring. Many people running
      present version of Adobe software on intel
      macs are having lots of problems.

      If you're talking about running windows
      photoshop on a mac, you won't have the
      superb color controls availabe on the mac
      version. Also the windows version of photo is
      fussy about memory as opposed to the mac
      version where memory problems are rare. Toss
      that in with running in a windows emulator on
      a mac and you could experience some naties.

      You'd be best off waiting until after Adobe
      releases intel mac compatible versions of its
      software and use that native version.
      j.m.galvin
  • Backlit Keyboard Utility

    An important feature that led me to buy a 17"
    MBP was the backlit keyboard. The automatic
    backlighting didn't suit my needs, but this free
    utility lets the user adjust the backlighting as he
    sees fit. Worth a test in your remaining few days
    of MBP use.
    http://labtick.proculo.de/
    Bill_in_Germany
  • Thanks for the series, it was great

    And proved to me what I suspected all along. The Mac, while a nice system when compared to absolute dirt cheap Walmart PCs, simply doesn't offer anything to compensate the user for the hundreds of $$$ he will have to overpay just to get the Apple logo.

    1. The Mac [b]doesn't[/b] just work. You will struggle with WiFi and constant crashing.
    2. While the Mac names things differently or uses different key combinations, there is nothing it can do that Windows can't.
    3. If you want to do any [b]real[/b] work, you will need to install bootcamp or Parallels and run Windows. Why not save yourself time and money and just buy a [b]nice[/b] Windows computer for hundreds less? Or, if you are all set to spend $2,999 on a computer, buy yourself a [b]much[/b] nicer Windows computer.

    Thanks again, I enjoyed every article.
    NonZealot
    • Blah blah blah

      I never struggled with Wi-Fi and the reason Adrian struggled with Wi-Fi is because
      he brought Windows assumptions to the connection. That doesn't work - Mac
      does the work for you, you have to tell Windows what to do.

      What real f**king work are you talking about, anyway? I have made nearly $1
      million on the work I've done on my Macs in the last few years. Are you doing
      better than that because you are using Windows?

      When I work right next to people using ThinkPads with XP, I am up and running
      faster, on a new Wi-Fi network faster and don't have to wait 2 minutes while my
      laptop shuts down to be on the move. I just close the damned lid and I'm off.
      Then when I get to a new Wi-Fi network, I open my MacBook Pro and connect to it
      instantly while my ThinkPad friends either have to find and delete caches or, if
      they used "hibernate" or "whatever", they have to reboot to connect to a new Wi-Fi
      network.

      XP SUCKS, regardless of the price of the PC it is on.

      Can't wait to find out what you think real work is!!!!
      mlindl
      • The irony is delicious!!

        [i]What real f**king work are you talking about, anyway?[/i]

        I don't know, you tell me. Why does Apple sell Bootcamp if OSX can do everything you need it to do? Are you saying that Apple is charging $30 for a product that has absolutely no value and is therefore ripping of its customers? If so, I have to ask: why do you hate Apple so much?


        Anyway, here is the delicious irony:
        [i]I never struggled with Wi-Fi and the reason Adrian struggled with Wi-Fi is because he brought Windows assumptions to the connection.[/i]

        Okay, so Adrian is wrong because you don't have problems with WiFi. Fair enough.

        [i]don't have to wait 2 minutes while my laptop shuts down to be on the move. I just close the damned lid and I'm off.[/i]

        Um, as do I. I guess there really isn't a problem then!

        [i]have to find and delete caches or, if they used "hibernate" or "whatever", they have to reboot to connect to a new Wi-Fi network.[/i]

        While I've never experienced that one myself (although, to be fair, I never "hibernate" my laptop), at least you only have to reboot. Seems that you have to reinstall OSX in order to change the computer name!
        http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12554-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=29135&messageID=543047&start=-1
        NonZealot
  • Makes me think about a friend just released from prison

    Adrian

    Interesting experience. I'm a 10 year Mac user. I've also used DOS, Win3.1 & 95 in
    the workplace, those ridiculous, painful Windows experiences sent me to a more
    sane, reasonable place, the Mac.

    A friend of my recently got out of prison after 10 years (dont drink & drive). For
    the first several years he was in a maximum-security prison, in a cell with one
    other inmate. He was then transferred to a much "nicer" low security prison where
    multiple inmates sleep marine barrack style. At first he hated it, and wanted to
    back to the "security of his cage" at the maximum-security prison. Eventually he
    got used to it. When he was released from prison, for the first few weeks, again, it
    was such a change from what he was used to, he actually wanted to go back to
    prison. Now he is starting to enjoy his time on the outside again.

    You seem to be very open minded in your experience, which is nice, but after
    being used to something for so long, I think it's hard to really look at something
    different objectively, even if you are trying to.

    Peter
    PDGjr
  • More MacBook?

    Oh, No Thank you!
    D T Schmitz