Only Microsoft stands between me and 64-bit bliss

Only Microsoft stands between me and 64-bit bliss

Summary: Back in November of last year I switched one of the systems that I use regularly over from Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit to 64-bit. I had expected that the switch would be a painful one, but as it turned out, things went quite smoothly - so much so that now only Microsoft stands between me and 64-bit bliss.

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Back in November of last year I switched one of the systems that I use regularly over from Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit to 64-bit. I had expected that the switch would be a painful one, but as it turned out, things went quite smoothly - so much so that now only Microsoft stands between me and 64-bit bliss.

Only Microsoft stands between me and 64-bit blissWhen I decided to make the switch, I did it on a whim. If things worked out, I got full use of my 4GB or RAM (a move which would pave the way to 8GB of RAM), bit if things got a bit too hairy and I couldn't get the system running right, I'd abandon the experiment and go back to 32-bit and announce to the world that 64-bit is still not ready. Problem is, things went well. Too well. Everything just worked and I was lulled into thinking that 64-bit headaches were a thing of the past. Sure, the drivers I needed for a particular piece of hardware might not be on the CD supplied, but I'd be able to find them on the web when I needed them.

Then I got a Microsoft Fingerprint Reader for Christmas. This was a replacement for one that I'd had for a few years that had died back in June of July of last year. This is a fantastically useful bit of kit that means that I don't need to remember (or go look for) my passwords. It's also a lifesaver for anyone with a complex online lifestyle because it can also be used to store website usernames and passwords. Sure, I also keep them safe elsewhere, but the Microsoft Fingerprint Reader meant that all I needed to access programs and websites was my fingers, and I'm usually not without them. After my old one died I was lost for a few days but went back to using PasswordSafe.

Anyway, back to the Microsoft Fingerprint Reader sitting in its box on my desk. A quick read of the box - "Microsoft Fingerprint Reader ... blah, blah, blah ... easy password replacement ... blah, blah, blah ... makes Windows Vista more convenient ..." - made no mention of this device not being 64-bit compatible. The only promise that the box made was that it was "also compatible with Windows Vista."

Now you probably already know where I'm headed with this, so to cut a long story short, the Microsoft Fingerprint Reader isn't compatible with Vista 64-bit. So here I am, having made the switch to 64-bit on a pretty complex system, and the only real obstacle in my way is Microsoft's lack of support for what they claim is the future of operating systems (heck, the next version of Windows might only come in 64-bit flavors). Everything else works. Every other company has embraced 64-bit and made their stuff future-proof. Once again, Microsoft takes aim and shoots themselves squarely in the foot.

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Topics: Processors, Hardware, Microsoft, Networking

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  • Why can't Microsoft get their act together?

    While the requirements clearly state it's compatible with Vista 32 bit (implying it's not compatible with Vista 64 bit) it doesn't make sense for them not to support 64 bit. Seems their in violation of their own certification requirements.
    ye
    • Please..

      Wait, this guy is complaining about the lack driver support on the most heavily supported OS in the Universe?

      Ok, it's not all there, but there is more support in 64-bit Vista then there is 32-bit Linux or any bit or flavor of BSD/AIX/SOLARIS.

      Dare I suggest using all this great virtualization software to ease the transition????
      crypt2121
  • Old News!

    ed beat you to this one!

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=344
    ShadeTree
    • Hey ... Shadey ...

      Why should it even be NEWS ... AT [b]ALL[/b]??

      Like Mikey Cox, every time I talk to MY Microsoft Rep, he is pushing 64-bit, 64-bit, 64-bit. Then we discover that the right hand at MS doesn't know what the left hand is doing and we wind up investing in hardware and software we can't really deploy YET because here a YEAR later it still ain't ready for prime time!
      OButterball
      • Not a problem for corporations.

        The fingerprint reader doesn't work in ADS logins anyway. If that is the only device holding you back then you are lucky!
        ShadeTree
        • <Giggle> So, Shadey says its okay to tell my clients:

          "The ONLY hardware device that DOESN'T work with 64-bit Vista is the fingerprint reader, yer 5 by 5 with ALL other hardware."

          I ... think ... [b][i]NOT[/i][/b]!
          OButterball
          • Don't misquote!

            I said if that is all that is holding you back you are lucky!
            ShadeTree
          • Now, reread my first post, Shademan, ...

            ...and it will become abundantly clear, from the GIT GO, that that AIN'T [b]ALL[/b] that is holding me back from using the 64-bit Vista bloatware! <chuckle> :)
            OButterball
        • Corporate fingerprint sensor

          Microsoft has licensed the consumer version of the DigitalPersona fingerprint sensor. The corporate ADS integrated version is called DigitalPersona Pro.

          More info here http://www.digitalpersona.com/products/business.php
          daren.mehl
        • Run as service.

          I don't know about the latest versions, but I know that at least two versions were capable of being used in an AD domain. You had to jump the hoops necessary to run it as a service, but once you got that working, it kicked into operation and worked for logging in to the AD domain.

          And, IIRC, the lit said it was "not recommended" for use on a domain, not that it didn't work. Big difference.
          Dr. John
      • You could always try out OS X...

        You could always try out OS X which generally doesn't suffer from having to
        differentiate between 32-bit and 64-bit when it comes to device drivers and software.
        olePigeon
        • Only because the kernal and all the drivers ...

          ... for OSX are 32 bit. There is no real 64 bit support for devices. Sorry to tell you however that even in 32 bit OSX does not support this device.
          ShadeTree
          • says here...

            http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/64bit.html
            Robert Kohlenberger
      • Prime Time?

        Do you really think fingerprint readers quallify as prime time? Would this really prevent you from using 64 bit?
        I doubt it. On the other hand it doesn't seem that it would be that hard to create. Ask your rep if there is a beta version around.
        Techref6060
  • Generally speaking....

    When a vendor or OS is not listed specifically as being compatible, one can safely gather that this means that it is NOT compatible. Unlike most 5-year olds, the author of this article has yet to figure this out for himself. Let me save you the trouble right now - although Ford does not make any claims (one way or the other) about Chevy compatibility with their spare parts, I can assure you that they are not compatible. They may list several compatible Ford models on the outside of the box, and (thankfully) do not do NOT list the other 40,000 incompatible vehicles and model years. To list incompatible vehicles would have required a larger box. :P
    rock06r
    • In practice I agree with this. This device appears to pre-date Vista.

      I've seen reviews of this device dated late 2004. But Microsoft did update the supported operating systems to include Vista. Since Microsoft requires any vendor who wants to obtain Vista certification to also provide 64 bit drivers it's odd they would not provide Vista 64 bit drivers for one of their devices. It would be one thing if they didn't specifically call out Vista. But since they have one has to wonder why they didn't provide 64 bit drivers as well.
      ye
    • Not quite the same

      A better analogy would be a ford sanction XM radio certified to work in a Mercury Montana, only to find out the wood trim and navigation system make it incompatible with the Mercury Montana Limited. The box did say it works on the Mercury Montana, but didn't explicitly say yeah or nay on the Limited.

      I'm with Ye on this one, MS should make what they sell completely Vista capable.

      TripleII
      TripleII-21189418044173169409978279405827
    • Re-read the article.....

      Quote from article:
      <i>"The only promise that the box made was that it was ?also compatible with Windows Vista.?</i><br><br>So the packaging <b>did</b> say it was compatible. Your argument is not applicable.
      devlin_X
  • Maybe you should try another 64bit OS...

    NT
    mrOSX
    • Why? It still would not work

      So trade in a system where 1 thing doesn't work for another where lots of things currently owned would?

      Real smart
      mdemuth