PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

Summary: PandaLabs wants Microsoft to offer a Windows antivirus software ballot to customers along the lines of the browser ballot currently being offered in Europe.

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PandaLabs wants Microsoft to offer a Windows antivirus software ballot to customers along the lines of the browser ballot currently being offered in Europe.

In an exclusive interview with PC Pro, PandaLabs technical director Luis Corrons had this to say:

"We think this is not fair," said Corrons, referring to the inclusion of Microsoft Security Essentials in Windows Update. "It is trying, somehow, to bundle the software it develops and take out competitors.

Corrons seems mistaken as to how Windows Update works. Windows users will only see the option to download Microsoft Security Essentials in Windows Update is they open up Windows Update application and choose to install optional updates.

Corrors goes on:

"A single solution is a security nightmare," he continued. "If all of us have the same security software, that makes it easier for the bad guys."

Corrons claimed a ballot similar to the browser choice screen would be a fairer solution. "There should be a list of a number of security software packages out there - including Microsoft, of course - and then let the user make the choice," he said.

Maybe Corrons hasn't been keeping up with things, but as Ed Bott points out, Microsoft already has a link that customers can use taking them to a page highlighting 25 programs, mostly paid for applications, including PandaLabs products. Much like the browser ballot, this listing is randomized.

Perhaps Microsoft should display the cost per year of these product alongside the links?

Topics: Browser, Microsoft, Operating Systems, Security, Software, Windows

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  • And it begins..

    Security Essentials Shows up as an [b]OPTIONAL[/b] to machines that have no antivirus protection and now the paid for solutions are starting to cry foul.

    When the little action center flag comes up and if the user actually clicks on it for more information and they have no AntiVirus software installed I am pretty sure it takes you to the page displayed above with many choices to choose from. Does it not? So there is no problem but Panda wants to make a big deal out of nothing.
    bobiroc
    • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

      @bobiroc - it does take you there.
      ItsTheBottomLine
    • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

      @bobiroc

      If I have to choose between the company that makes my OS and provides free software and a Panda, then I think I'll take MS.

      How does the Panda use a keyboard anyhow? - or do they have Kinects?
      tonymcs@...
      • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

        @tonymcs@...

        It uses Bamboo Gloves
        bobiroc
  • AV vendors complaining about this...

    ...don't have consumers best interests at heart. If they honestly wanted consumers to have their crap preloaded, they should make more attractive deals to OEM's. So far, none of the big OEM's AV partners has complained about Microsoft's offering.

    Perhaps Microsoft should post a value assessment of comparative scores vs. price.

    Re: AV ballot box:

    They shouldn't be complaining one bit about Microsoft. Microsoft is doing free advertising for them, and at the same time, sometimes when you see the ballot box, there is no listing for Microsoft. Nothing like biting the hand that feeds you...
    Joe_Raby
  • Just replace Windows

    For now you really only need AV software on Windows.
    itguy08
    • You suck at IT

      nt
      Joe_Raby
      • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

        @Joe_Raby It does not stand for Information Tech. It stands for I dio T....
        ItsTheBottomLine
    • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

      @itguy08

      Oh why didn't I think of that? Because it is insane that is why. Windows runs the software my Teachers and Students need and want to use. Windows offers the compatibility needed to function with the outside world, the list goes on.

      Besides if you think you can run a non Windows environment without some sort of AV protection then you better not ever communicate with anyone outside your network. Because while many of the infections may not affect the local operating system that is NOT Windows it makes the machine a carrier and could cause trouble for machines that run windows if they receive an email or a file from that non-windows computer that just happens to be a carrier. So that just compounds the problem. It is for that reason I have an Antivirus/AntiMalware solution on the Macs I manage as well as the Linux Servers I manage.

      I highly suggest you change your display name to [b]NotAn[/b]itguy08
      bobiroc
    • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

      @itguy08
      You really know nothing, do you? This isn't XP anymore. Windows 7 is rock-solid.
      Droid101
    • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

      @itguy08 Let me guess... you are one of those who claims that the Mac OSX and Linux is invulnerable to any sort of virus, malware, trojan, or even an ID-10T error... a perfect example of a ID-10T error is your post.
      athynz
      • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

        @athynz He and Donnieboy/Frothy2 have a date night together quite often.
        ItsTheBottomLine
      • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

        @athynz <br>I don't think anybody claims they're <b>"invulnerable"</b> as can be attested here<br><br><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Linuxvirus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Linuxvirus</a><br><br>The likelihood for infection is pretty low. Not impossible.<br><br>Nothing is absolute, so knock off the red herrings.
        ahh so
    • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

      @itguy08 = fail
      hjagla
  • My take on AV software

    There is no part of AV software that is a benefit to consumers.<br><br>It is a requirement, yes, but it doesn't benefit consumers and their use of the computer. It's a security and prevention measure, but you can't say that consumers gain something from having it. They only reason you have it is to prevent a detriment. If you assigned a score to having antimalware software, the user wouldn't be +1, they'd be at 0, assuming it worked as it should, and not having it would be in the negative. The only person that gains from it is the developer, for making money off it. Microsoft gives away Security Essentials, and that's good - antimalware software is a computing requirement. Let all the antimalware developers value their software to the users benefit instead of their own, and no antimalware software would cost a cent.
    Joe_Raby
  • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

    I hope Microsoft takes them off that page. That'll teach them to run their mouth without doing research first. Maybe it'll click in their heads that MSE is an optional download too.
    Loverock Davidson
    • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

      @Loverock Davidson Perhaps other people would need a "lesson" then. Perhaps other operating system would have to be developed in Europe. Perhaps Windows would have to be forbidden in all the EU area. Perhaps all that "Games for Windows" and all the programs that only run on Windows would have to run on other operating systems or watch how the don't have license to operate in Europe.
      If Windows, Adobe and such companies work in Europe and enjoy their privileged position is because we admit it. Come on try to change it, we will obtain a benefit from you stopping to steal information from us anymore.
      javierdelgado
  • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

    Don't use Windows, Don't need AntiVirus. Very straight forward.
    james347
  • Some clarifications

    Hi Adrian,

    I can guarantee that I know how Windows Update works :)

    As you know, in Windows Update you don't have any other choice but Security Essentials, no ballot there. A number of free security solutions should be offered there, not just Microsoft's.

    All our points are explained in the blog post: http://pandalabs.pandasecurity.com/microsoft-just-doesn%E2%80%99t-get-it%E2%80%A6-security-is-about-diversity/

    Best regards,
    Luis Corrons
    lcorrons
    • RE: PandaLabs wants Windows antivirus software ballot ... but it already exists!

      @lcorrons

      Why add your product there when you have absolutely nothing to do with designing the OS or update mechanisms? Its an optional download for a reason. You just want another distribution channel. Microsoft already provided a link for you on another page, be happy with that before they pull you off of it.
      Loverock Davidson