PSone and PS2 games look awful on the PS3

PSone and PS2 games look awful on the PS3

Summary: Actually, awful isn't a strong enough word. If you're trying to get your hands on a PlayStation 3 games console for the Holidays and you plan to use it to play PSone and PS2 games on it, you need to read this.

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Actually, awful isn't a strong enough word.  If you're trying to get your hands on a PlayStation 3 games console for the Holidays and you plan to use it to play PSone and PS2 games on it, you need to read this.

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It seems that there is a serious issue with the way the new PS3 handles PSone and PS2 games.  The 480i games are outputted without anti-aliasing.  To make matters worse, the output is jagged and contains a number of distracting screen artifacts.  Take a look at the screen captures from the video below:

PS2 output
PS2 output - Lookin' good!

PS3 output
PS3 output - Gaaahhhhh!

Split screen output
Split-screen output

See the entire video here

This issue apparently has nothing to do with the TV used, cables or resolution settings ... it's just down to the console.  Hopefully this can be fixed by a firmware update, but you would have thought an issue of this kind would have been picked up on by Sony some time ago.

I'm going to investigate this further and get back to you with what I find.  Stay tuned!

 

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  • Sony Sony Sony... Sony released PS3 too early

    despite long development of PS3... Oh crap...
    Grayson Peddie
  • I don't think this is accurate

    I don't think this story is accurate.

    I have a PS3 and have tried several of my PS2 games on it, and all of them so far have run just as they do on my PS2. I still have my PS2 hooked up, because this issue is something I checked specifically when testing compatibility issues.

    By the way, I haven't run into any compatibility issues so far. However, a friend borrowed my Gran Turismo 4, which was a title on the list, so I haven't been able to verify if that works or not.

    You really hate the PS3, don't you? Man, you don't even try hiding it. Give it some time for developers to get decent stuff out for it before you toss it in the dumpster.

    Remember the side-by-side comparison of XBox 360 titles and the same PS3 launch titles? EA's vice president admitted in a subsequent interview that EA is only utilizing around 20% of the PS3's abilities in their launch titles. Basically, they ported XBox 360 designed games to the PS3 and scrambled to get them debugged and stabilized. PS3 dev kits have only been available for six months now. You can't expect them to create a game from the ground up and get it stamped and launched in less than six months, right?

    Here's a link to the article: http://palgn.com.au/article.php?titl...30376cd e5e45

    Give the PS3 some time. Developers have barely scratched the surface.
    rtaylor9969
    • I don't think this article is accurate

      I don't think this story is accurate.

      I have a PS3 and have tried several of my PS2 games on it, and all of them so far have run just as they do on my PS2. I still have my PS2 hooked up, because this issue is something I checked specifically when testing compatibility issues.

      By the way, I haven't run into any compatibility issues so far. However, a friend borrowed my Gran Turismo 4, which was a title on the list, so I haven't been able to verify if that works or not.

      You really hate the PS3, don't you? Man, you don't even try hiding it. Give it some time for developers to get decent stuff out for it before you toss it in the dumpster.

      Remember the side-by-side comparison of XBox 360 titles and the same PS3 launch titles? EA's vice president admitted in a subsequent interview that EA is only utilizing around 20% of the PS3's abilities in their launch titles. Basically, they ported XBox 360 designed games to the PS3 and scrambled to get them debugged and stabilized. PS3 dev kits have only been available for six months now. You can't expect them to create a game from the ground up and get it stamped and launched in less than six months, right?

      Here's a link to the article:

      http://palgn.com.au/article.php?titl...30376cd e5e45

      Give the PS3 some time. Developers have barely scratched the surface.
      rtaylor9969
    • I don't think this article is accurate

      I don't think this story is accurate.

      I have a PS3 and have tried several of my PS2 games on it, and all of them so far have run just as they do on my PS2. I still have my PS2 hooked up, because this issue is something I checked specifically when testing compatibility issues.

      By the way, I haven't run into any compatibility issues so far. However, a friend borrowed my Gran Turismo 4, which was a title on the list, so I haven't been able to verify if that works or not.

      You really hate the PS3, don't you? Man, you don't even try hiding it. Give it some time for developers to get decent stuff out for it before you toss it in the dumpster.

      Remember the side-by-side comparison of XBox 360 titles and the same PS3 launch titles? EA's vice president admitted in a subsequent interview that EA is only utilizing around 20% of the PS3's abilities in their launch titles. Basically, they ported XBox 360 designed games to the PS3 and scrambled to get them debugged and stabilized. PS3 dev kits have only been available for six months now. You can't expect them to create a game from the ground up and get it stamped and launched in less than six months, right?

      Here's a link to the article:

      http://palgn.com.au/article.php?titl...30376cde5e45

      Give the PS3 some time. Developers have barely scratched the surface.
      rtaylor9969
    • There's a lot of evidence out there for a problem ...

      "I have a PS3 and have tried several of my PS2 games on it, and all of them so far have run just as they do on my PS2. I still have my PS2 hooked up, because this issue is something I checked specifically when testing compatibility issues."

      Quite possibly this issue is limited to a certain run. I don't believe that ALL PS3s are affected, but there's a lot of evidence out there to suggest that a problem exists.

      "You really hate the PS3, don't you? Man, you don't even try hiding it."

      Far from it. The PS3 is a technological marvel. I'm passing on 9information that might be of use to those thinking about buying one. If you're not interested in PS2 games, it's not a problem. My personal belief is that the PS3 will be a better machine in 6 months or so, and if you can wait, then that might be the best thing to do.

      "Remember the side-by-side comparison of XBox 360 titles and the same PS3 launch titles? EA's vice president admitted in a subsequent interview that EA is only utilizing around 20% of the PS3's abilities in their launch titles."

      That's not the consumer's fault though, is it?

      "Basically, they ported XBox 360 designed games to the PS3 and scrambled to get them debugged and stabilized."

      Yep, I agree, too much of a scramble. Sony should have eased back on the launch date and given developers more time.
      Adrian Kingsley-Hughes
      • Strangely omitted from your blog

        "I don't believe that ALL PS3s are affected, but there's a lot of evidence out there to
        suggest that a problem exists."

        Your blogs read very differently, then it is ZDNet and we're not talking about a MS
        product.
        Richard Flude
        • Re: Your blogs read very differently

          Too true Richard, this is a ZDNet blog.

          Treat it with the contempt it deserves.

          (and I own a Wii, so no accusations of PS3 love please)
          Scrat
          • Look at the screenshots ...

            I ddn't take them, some were taken by people who camped out and spent nearly a grand of their hard-earned cash on a system that Sony said would offer "full backward compatibility". I think that the problems that these guys have had and the stonewalling that Sony has given them deserves some coverage, don't you?

            After all, if it was Microsoft and not Sony ...

            I'm going to have a lot more to say about this later today.
            Adrian Kingsley-Hughes
    • Re: I don't think this is accurate

      Apparently not all PS2 games have this problem. Games which support 480p output do not and many games that support 480i don't as well.
      Morac
      • The problem is sporadic ...

        The problem is more noticable on 40+ inch 1080p TV sets.
        Adrian Kingsley-Hughes
  • Its all about Scaling

    there are issues perhaps in how the Image is Scaled... Yes scaled. As the PS3
    wants to send its signal by default at a very high Resolution. So then a PS2 signal
    is sent, out its image is actually very small by comparison. Its upscaled then and
    the hardware will perform a few adjustments to clean it up. However Upscaling
    might be good for DVDs being played back on a 1080p, but its obviously no good
    on Video games.

    Another issue is that the Hardware is far from even similar. Unlike the GameBoy,
    which actually had several Chipsets included, or on the same chip. The PS3 which
    Runs LINUX OS, has an Emulator in place of hardware. So the PS2 is in fact a piece
    of software itself. Unfortunately I think that the Look of PS2 games may never get
    better, Unless the Emulator is addressed. This may or may not also Effect DVD
    movies.

    Ive also heard of Blu-Ray movies not looking better. My answer is simple. They
    were probably never Recorded in HD. Try something in Blu-Ray and DVD that was
    Originally filmed for IMAX.
    rflulling