Safari for Windows - Do we really need another browser?

Safari for Windows - Do we really need another browser?

Summary: Yesterday Apple unveiled a public beta of the Safari web browser aimed at Windows XP and Windows Vista users (oh, and Mac OS X 10.4.9 and later). Earlier this year when Apple had sent me a loaner MacBook Pro I'd had the opportunity to use Safari and quite honestly I wasn't all that impressed with it and quickly installed (and used) Firefox instead. Do Windows users really need yet another browser for the Windows platform?


Yesterday Apple unveiled a public beta of the Safari web browser aimed at Windows XP and Windows Vista users (oh, and Mac OS X 10.4.9 and later).  Earlier this year when Apple had sent me a loaner MacBook Pro I'd had the opportunity to use Safari and quite honestly I wasn't all that impressed with it and quickly installed (and used) Firefox instead.  Safari 3 beta for WindowsThe crashes, combined with the speed with which a exploit was uncovered make me wonder whether Apple can write code for WindowsDo Windows users really need yet another browser for the Windows platform?

To be honest, my first response when I heard that Apple had made a beta of Safari for Windows available for download was ... a disappointing yawn.  A web browser is just a tool and I find it hard to drum up much enthusiasm for new browsers any more.  If you look at the top four browsers out now (Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 2.0, Opera 9 and Safari 2/3), there's really not much to distinguish between them.  They all do pretty much the same thing in pretty much the same way, they all have their quirks, and they all seem prone to the "leaky bucket" syndrome when it comes to security.  The idea of having "yet another browser" installed, with all the associated care and feeding that goes with the deal (especially making sure that you're using the latest patched version) just didn't seem worth the hassle to me.  Nevertheless, I downloaded a copy, installed it onto a Vista installation and took it for a spin.

OK, so the Safari download is nice and small (under 8MB) and the installation is fast (mine was done in about a minute).  Apple claim that it'll run on both XP and Vista and that you'll need a system with at least 256MB of RAM and a 500MHz Pentium CPU or better.  This might be the case, but once I got Safari 3 beta installed, I remembered one of the reasons why I disliked Safari on the Mac and why I'll still dislike it on Windows - that butt-ugly silver-grey interface.  It looks especially rough on Windows Vista where I'm used to the nice Aero glass look.

Looking beyond the interface, Apple has posted twelve reasons they think why we'll love Safari.  Let's examine each one here one by one.

Blazing Performance

Apple claims that Safari is fast - twice as fast as Internet Explorer and 1.6 times as fast as Firefox 2.0.  Looking at Apple's website the claim is that Safari is faster than IE7, Firefox 2.0 and Opera 9 when it comes to rendering HTML, executing JavaScript and at launching the browser.

Personally, I think that it takes about the same time to launch all four browsers on my Vista box (under 1 second) and while I can say that web pages feel like they load up faster, I think that this is due to the fact that the page seems to be composed off-screen.  This results in a lag between clicking on a link and seeing the page.  Page loading feels faster and certainly looks smoother, but my inkling is that this is nothing more than an illusion.  I'm taking Apple's performance claims with a big pinch of salt.

Elegant User Interface

OK, it's a minimalist look, but I still think it looks awful.  Why hide useful features like the status bar and yet show that Bookmarks Bar?  Safari 3 betaAlso why when the top three browsers all offer tooltips to help explain the user interface does Apple not follow this convention?  Likewise, it's annoying that you can only resize windows using the handle at the bottom-right of the window.

The black text on a grey background motif reminds me of a tombstone on one of those old Hammer House of Horror movies.  I was pretty sure that there would be a way to ditch the existing skin, but if there is, I can't find it.  I guess I can understand a look where the interface is subdued because then you can use color to selectively draw the eye to important things, but I don't see that trick being used in Safari.

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Easy Bookmarks

Safari 3 betaOK, here's an area that Apple has managed to get right.  Safari has one of the easiest bookmark systems going.  They appear to have taken the iTunes paradigm and applied this to organizing browser bookmarks.  Browsing and organizing bookmarks in Safari is quicker and easier than in either IE7, Firefox or Opera.

The Safari method is a pleasure to use and if I became a Safari user I could really see myself organizing my bookmarks with this browser, rather than just keeping them in a mess like I do on other browsers.

Pop-up Blocking

Seems to work.  Can't say much more than that.

Inline Find

Inline find is another feature that Apple has managed to nail while the other browsers are still floundering.  After a few seconds of using the inline find in Safari you begin to wish that all other applications (including Windows) worked this way.  Nice.

Tabbed Browsing

Tabs are pretty ubiquitous in the browser world.  Apple has added a few twists such as allowing you to move a tab to a new browser window.


Initially it's difficult to get your head around SnapBack.  Here's how Apple describe this feature:

With most browsers, it’s easy to lose your way on the web. You go surfing, and before you know it, you’ve drifted far from where you started. Stop hitting the Back button and start using SnapBack in Safari. SnapBack lets you instantly snap back to your original search results or to the top level of any website, even after you’ve browsed down a few levels.

Personally, I haven’t got used to SnapBack just yet.  I guess this is because I'm happy to open up loads of new tabs and windows.  I guess this feature that takes a while to bond with.

Forms Autofill

Again, another pretty standard browser feature. Nothing stands out about the Safari rendition of Autofill.

Built-in RSS

I quite like the built-in RSS reader in Safari.  The RSS feed is clearly laid out and all the tools you use are easily accessible from the menu on the right-hand side.  But like the RSS reader in all the browsers, I don't see myself using it because I use a combination of Desktop Sidebar and FeedDemon to handle my feeds (although I may go to Google Reader at some point).

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Resizable Text Fields

Hmmm, might be handy in some situations to be able to resize a text field and have a larger space to write in.  However, in reality, it's pretty obscure and I just don't see this being used all that often.  Still, it's there and it works.

Private Browsing

Private browsing is a feature where you can set Safari not to store a record of your surfing.  This includes caching pages, caching cookies, history and information from forms.  This could be a useful feature for staying safe when visiting banks and doing a spot of online shopping.  Problem is though, it's ill thought-out because there's nothing in the way of a visual cue to tell you that you're in private browsing mode - a bit of an oversight if you ask me.


Here's what Apple has to say about security:

Now you can enjoy worry-free web browsing on any computer. Apple engineers designed Safari to be secure from day one.

However, if you carry on reading you'll notice that Apple then goes on to talk about SSL and proxy protocols.  Given that we're likely to see countless updates for Safari, "worry-free" might not be the best phrase to have used, especially since a serious vulnerability was discovered within hours of the release and there are more on the way.

Closing thoughts

After taking a look at Safari I have to conclude that it contains some useful features.  I particularly like the RSS reader and the way you handle bookmarks.  But to be honest I really can't see myself going to the bother of introducing yet another browser into the mix.  In fact, I can only see two serious markets for Safari:

  • Web developers
  • Mac users who run Boot Camp or Parallels and want a unified browsing environment

Beyond that, I don't see Safari catching on in any big way on the Windows platform.  Safari for Windows - yes, it does crash!!!It's too ugly (really ugly, especially on Vista, in fact, I'm looking at it now and it's so darn ugly that it's actually making me angry) and there's no one unique feature that stands out as being worthy of making a switch.  I also wasn't all that impressed by the fact that the browser crashed on me a couple of times in about an hour.  The crashes, combined with the speed with which a exploit was uncovered make me wonder whether Apple can write code for Windows.


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  • 2 words "Web Development"

    I can now test my website in Safari without having to own a Mac.

    Very Nice.
    • so true...

      I agree, it was always a pain to test in Safari, now I can build a Virtual XP installation with every browser and check sites without any issues :)
    • market is too small to worry about it

      I wouldn't bother with it, if it runs on Firefox and IE which would be what, 98% of the market then compatability is Apple's problem and not mine.

      We wouldn't need to test on 15 different browsers if all of the browser companies got on the same page. When people are willing to test on 15 different browsers for compatability then there is less incentive for IE/Firefox/Opera/Safari to get on the same page. We have done that long enough, it is time for them to step up to the plate.
    • Just freakin great

      Another browser to deal with. It is a total pain to get a fairly complex page to look and behave the same in FF and IE, and now I have to develop and Q&A for another browser? Just ducky.
      Duke E. Love
  • choice is always nice

    i can't agree that i find the interface 'ugly', I find a bit more
    refined than the cartoony Firefox and IE7 looks. The
    resizable text boxes are excellent, as is find-as-you-type.
    One issue is a basic one: having to triple-click to type a
    new address in the bar. It's one click for a carat, two to
    select a word (why?), and three to select the whole URL.

    Also, the font rendering is quite smudgy on the standard
    setting - just going to go try it

    As for the security concerns, I'm behind a firewall and have
    antivirus installed.

    Overall I'm very happy to use Safari as my default browser!
    • How does the firewall help?

      Are you blocking port 80 for outgoing? If not then you're firewall is not helping you. A proxy server would be more appropriate here where it scans for HTTP compliance and malicious behavior. The firewall will happily let you go out on port 80 to what ever malicious website you choose to enter if you set the rules to allow that. Anti-virus software may help but chance are they will miss it unless it tries to write to the harddrive.

      Now if you are blocking port 80 then what need do you have Safari for, you have no internet access. On top of that you won't be able to download it in the first place.
      • whatever...

        i'm behind a corporate intranet, so have a
    • Hi dyl8n - I have an answer to your tripple click question

      As a recent convert to OS X from Windows I had the same issue initially and I can
      relate to you frustration. However, the simple solution is that you actually click on
      the icon in the addres bar to select the complete URL, not the URL text itsself. This
      has become second nature to me now, but without it windows users will be
      frustrated. This is just one example of the subtle differences between OSX &
      Windows that you have to learn when you make the switch.
  • As was said before

    Safari will be the tool by which apps will be written for the iPhone. Thus the Windows

    For people who are supposed to be all hot about Web 2.0, you seem hard pressed to
    shake the paradigm that a web browser is just for viewing static content.
    • A tool for developers

      Safari for Windows is just that.

      For you poor souls stuck with Windows, switch to a better platform, Mac OS X, for a
      much better internet browsing experience.
      • Get off your high horse

        Believe it or not, I actually prefer Windows. I'm currently trying out Linux for a different experience, but it still comes down to preference. So, for you, Mac OSX is a better experience. For others, not so much. Leave it at that.
      • And then ...

        "For you poor souls stuck with Windows, switch to a better platform, Mac OS X, for a much better internet browsing experience."

        And then download and install Firefox or Opera onto it, because from my experience Safari sucks on OS X too.
        Adrian Kingsley-Hughes
        • Because you have NO experience in the first place

          When you were writing about the mac that Apple lent you, it was quite obvious that you didn?t want to learn or understand the mac. All you did was dick around with the thing and never ? in a whole month ? exhibited any understanding of it nor any inclination to understand.

          The simple fact is that Safari works just fine on Macs and always has. Firefox works just fine also but has more gadgets available and works on some poorly coded sites that don?t work properly in Safari ? like the links near the top of the ZDNet News page that will take you to the WRONG STORY when clicked in Safari.

          Again, you have virtually NO experience with Mac or its attendant apps, so you are totally unqualified to make ANY judgments about mac or Apple apps.
          • Funny

            I think it's very funny that ZDNet is cover safari as much as it has because their site
            doesn't play nice with Safari... I have emailed them a zillion times this year and people
            actually contacted me but they didn't fix it till yesterday...

            I think it's very funny...
            panic man
        • Mac users are of a different mindset.

          They want simple, elegant and lightning fast, just what Safari is.
          Most Mac users actually LIKE Safari because of this and stay away from Opera and
          Firefox because they are not like the rest of the Mac environment, i.e. simple, elegant
          and lightning fast.

          Opera has improved a lot through the years but, IMO, Firefox has not.
          Both are good browsers but are not what longtime Mac users like.
          • So Mac users who don't use Safari are...

            <fill in the blank>. Based on the talkbacks, it would appear that the best defense most Mac zealots can come up with is: well, I don't use Safari but I've never heard anything bad about it so it must be perfect!!
          • Nope, I just like it...

            ... like most other longtime Mac users.
            If some prefer Camino, Firefox or Opera then that's their right to choose.

            I happen to be of the opinion that Safari is much better than the other browsers
            available because it does what it should very well, no useless feature-bloat, just a
            simple browser with a great (and Mac-like) implementation, just like most other
            things in the best OS, Mac OS X.

            You (probably) don't understand it because you've been influenced by a different
            company with a different mindset (a bad one IMO).
          • Safari too is EXTREMLY bloated

            [i]it does what it should very well, no useless feature-bloat, just a simple browser[/i]

            If what you [b]actually[/b] wanted was just a simple browser, why don't you use [url=] Lynx [/url]? Safari is a bloated whale compared to Lynx. Oh, [b]BONUS FEATURE FOR THE MAC ZEALOT!!!![/b] Lynx is even a type of cat so it should be [b]perfect[/b] for OSX. :)
      • Rebuttal

        I'm running Safari for Windows right now, actually and I can tell you that I already
        freakin' hate it.

        As for you poor souls stuck with being arrogant Mac users, switch to Windows Vista
        for a superior gaming and multimedia experience with DirectX 10 and Windows Media
        Center. Haha...
      • Oh brother

        Not this shite again....
        Duke E. Love