UPDATED: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support

Summary: Those following me on Twitter will know that my Dell Studio 13 XPS developed a fault over the weekend where the battery suddenly refused to charge. No problems I thought, I'll call Dell tech support ...

Those following me on Twitter will know that my Dell Studio 13 XPS developed a fault over the weekend where the battery suddenly refused to charge. No problems I thought, I'll call Dell tech support ...

OK, early Monday morning I gave Dell tech support a ring and, after a wait of a few minutes, I got through to someone wanting my service tag, had to give this about a dozen times, then eventually was put through to a tech support agent. After a few basic questions such as "is the AC adaptor plugged in?" and "is it switched on?" and "can you check so and so in the BIOS?" (the desired information, as it turned out, didn't exist in the BIOS for this model anyway), the problem was diagnosed as a dodgy AC adaptor. I'd be sent a replacement overnight.

Great. That's suited me great, a problem I could solve without needing an on-site visit.

Next day, adaptor arrives. I eagerly unpack it and plug it in and ... the problem was still there.

Rats! Another call to Dell tech support. We once again go through the ritual of giving the service tag number half a dozen times, then the basic questions, and a few slightly deeper questions. This time, the problem is diagnosed as a faulty motherboard and an appointment was arranged for an on-site visit from an engineer.

Engineer arrived today. The nice chap arrived with a replacement motherboard and a new AC adaptor. Cool, a spare. Handy.

My Studio 13 XPS gets taken apart and rebuilt around a new motherboard over the course of about 40 minutes. I got suspicious that the repair might not be effective when I noticed that the AC port didn't come directly off the motherboard but was instead on a separate daughter board connected onto the motherboard.

After the notebook was expertly assembled, the AC adaptor was hooked back up and the system restarted.

Problem remained ...

Now, up until this point, I was happy with the service I'd received. Sure, I'd been on the phone for longer than I'd have wanted to be, and I had to endure a few moronic questions, but that's all part of the tech support package. Tech support isn't easy. But what happened next is where things started to go wrong.

The on-site tech has now figured out that the problem with the system is the daughter board that the power adaptor plugs into so he phones up Dell's internal tech line to order the parts and arrange another visit. At first he's now being asked a series of moronic questions such as "is the system plugged in?" and an odd series of question along the lines of "is the AC adaptor plugged into the right socket?" and "can you try the other AC socket?" (there is only one ...).

Cut a long story short, the upshot of his phone conversation was that I was getting another on-site visit the next day (tomorrow) and the same parts (motherboard and AC adaptor) would be once again swapped out. The tech apologized, suggested I get in touch with Dell to try to rectify the matter, and then left.

So then I get back in touch with Dell tech support ... again ...

You know the drill ... wait ... give my service tag several times over (I know my service tag off by heart) ... get through to a tech support agent ... more basic questions ...

I then tried to find out what was going to be replaced on the next on-site visit. I'm told the motherboard and AC adaptor. I ask why, since these parts have already been replaced. I'm told it's because the motherboard fitted by the on-site tech was DOA. I pointed out that it wasn't and that it was a problem with the AC port. Tech support agent tells me that all ports are on the motherboard so it'll be replaced along with the board (I was also told that "the motherboard is the brain of the computer" ... thought I'd share that one with you ... ). I point out that it's not.

I'm put on hold. When the tech support agent comes back I'm now told that it is the daughterboard being replaced after all and that I shouldn't worry and just wait for the on-site tech to come back ...

Hmmm ... that sets my spidie senses tingling at max. I get the feeling I'm not being told the truth and that I've been labeled as an awkward caller and I'm being dealt with as such. So I ask for the part number of the daughterboard being fitted.

See, a company like Dell revolved around part numbers. Everything, down to screws and stickers have their own part numbers. If a new daughterboard had been ordered, the tech support agent should have the part number handy ... like on th screen in front of him.

"Why do you want it?" the tech support agent asks.

"Just so I know what's being fitted" I say, casually.

I'm told that the on-site tech will be able to give me the part number tomorrow, but I insist that I'd like it now, just for the record.

I'm put on hold again.

When the tech support agent comes back on the line, I sense that there's been a change in the mood. I'm asked my name. I give it, at the same time asking for the tech support agent's name. I get it. I'm again reassured that on-site tech will be able to give me the part number tomorrow. I say that I'd like it now.

I'm put on hold again.

The tech support agent comes back on the line again and assures me that the daughterboard is being replaced tomorrow and that the on-site tech will be able to give me all the part numbers I need. I sense that the conversation is now going nowhere so I bid the support agent farewell.

Seems to me like a few things have gone wrong here.

  • Why can't the on-site tech easily order the parts they need?
  • Why are the on-site techs being asked moronic questions like whether things are plugged in the right hole. Seriously, this is just dumb and a waste of time.
  • Why waste everyone's time arranging a revisit to replace parts that are clearly working fine?

I'll let you all know what happens tomorrow when the on-site techie arrives. My feeling is that he'll arrive with another motherboard and AC adaptor ...

[UPDATE: OK, on-site tech arrived with another replacement AC adaptor and another motherboard. No new AC adaptor part (which, thanks to @BillatDell I discovered has the part number T965H). Grrrr! This means that I was blatantly lied to on the phone yesterday.

The tech phones up Dell support too try to order the right part but couldn't make progress so decided to replace the motherboard anyway and at the same time get the part number he needed to order the right part.

On opening the system the on-site tech noticed that the AC adaptor connector was slightly misaligned, so rather than change the motherboard he realigned the connector. BINGO! That was the fault.

So the system is fixed. I'm happy about that, but I'm not happy that I was lied to and I'm not happy that getting something that's so simple (and cheap, compared to a motherboard) needed to take so many phone calls and two visits.]

Topics: Dell, Enterprise Software

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  • The on-site tech support tech was obviously in the U.S., but ....

    it sounds like the "other end" of the line is somewhere half way around the planet (maybe also taking orders for "Shammy Wows") while reading off a scripted Q&A screen.
    Kinda like "cloud tech support"?
    What really hurts is that this is OUR tech support for just about any product or service.
    kd5auq
    • That's funny

      Because according to Adrian's other blog (PC-
      Doctor) he lives in the UK.
      aep528
      • I should have asked the obvious .....

        What part of Texas is the U.K. in????
        kd5auq
        • Right on!

          Hook 'em, Horns.

          Er, in my case, Miners.
          IT_User
  • Dell: Just doesn't care

    I ordered a server last year and the box arrived open with shrink wrap around it from the courier company.

    The cause was that someone had taped the box and basically missed one of the cardboard flaps (it was taped by 1/4 inch). The box had split open during shipping.

    When I called the rep to indicate there is a Q/A problem and question why something like a server is packed with one piece of tape, he was completely disinterested. He did assure me that if the server was damaged, they would replace it. Great, I appreciated being a guinea pig.

    Clueless!

    Oh, and try ordering parts. It is so amusing to speak to a person in another country and have them say "sorry it's taking so long, my computer is slow!". Come on, you work for a computer company. If you can't look up the part, you look like idiots.

    Clueless again.
    croberts
    • Why would you think a Tech would know why?

      Do you actualy expect him to see the servers being packaged and shipped?

      And if there computers are slow how would they actualy be able to make them faster? Not wanting to SOUND stupid will not mysticaly make the systems perform better.

      When I contacted Dell about a problem I was asked for My service Tag once and spoke to one person. Who continued my case through to its resolution and yes he was from another country.

      jdbukis@...
  • Talk about an unescessary run-around.

    Those phone "tech-people" don't know their a**hole
    from a
    hole in the ground.

    Didn't Dell supposedly have the number 1 tech
    support or
    was that a different PC manufacturer?
    tbensen@...
    • #1 Tech support is not nor ever has been dell

      It's Apple.
      itguy08
      • Fair enough, but not because Apple is any better

        We all have our support horror stories. When my MacBook Pro hard drive failed, I went through much the same dance as Adrian.

        I called customer support, I was asked stupid questions. Finally, I was instructed to take it to an Apple store. At the store, I waited for nearly an hour (because the technicians were "behind schedule"), before finally being told that it was my hard drvie. I was then told that they didn't have that size of hard drive, and would have to order it in.

        About a week and a half later, I finally had to call in to ask about my computer. They let me know that they had just gotten the part and I should be able to pick it up in a "day or so." From the time of drop off to pick up was two weeks, for a failed hard drive.

        By my count, Adrian spent some time on hold, got asked stupid questions, and had a technician come to his home. His computer will probably be down a total of three or four days. Not too bad, by my count. (Even though I highly approve of the whining and complaining, that's what prompts large companies to improve things.)

        In contrast, I spent time on hold, had to drive 50 miles to my Apple store, waited for an hour because the tech support couldn't keep their schedule, lost my laptop for two weeks. I then had to drive an additional 50 miles to go pick it up.

        While both experiences were suboptimal, I rank my encounter with Apple as substantially worse than my encounters with Dell. What's more, I feel like Dell is trying to improve their customer experience. With Apple, I'm told, "Don't like it, shop elsewhere."

        To that kind of arrogance and stupidity, there is only one response. "Okay. I will."
        Rob Oakes
        • Wow, that does not compare with my problem...

          I had bought a PowerBook G4 Aluminum it had a display issue, they sent me a box, I dropped it off @ DHL drop box on Tuesday (Before Thanksgiving ) and had it back on Wednesday the following week.
          mrlinux
          • Makes me wonder about their trajectory

            It makes me wonder what kind of trajectory that Apple is on. I'm a fairly recent Apple customer (my computer is about 2 1/2 years old). When I talk with the old-time Macheads at work, they speak of a company that I can only imagine. For example, did you know that you used to be able to extend AppleCare for a reasonable free -- he thought it was like $100 per year?

            I would love to do that. Even though my computer is several years old, I probably need to get five, six or maybe even seven years out of it. It was very expensive and I have a hard time spending that much on a computer (even one I use every day for work), more than every five years (minimum).

            They also talk of a company that would bend over backward to keep your loyalty. And an utter dearth of hardware or software problems. In contrast, I've had more trouble with my MacBook Pro (charger stopped working, battery went south after only a year of use, hard drive failed, experienced a weird flicker in the monitor) than with any other computer I've ever owned.

            Which is to say nothing of how they treat their iPhone and iPod customers. (A moisture sensor in the headphone jack? Invalidating warranties because of jailbreaking? Are you kidding me?)

            Apple today reminds me of Microsoft of the late 90s, a company running on the fumes of it's own greatness. Here's hoping they clear the air, and soon.
            Rob Oakes
          • DHL?

            You're sure that Apple didn't sent a replacement back to you by Fed Ex? :)
            Bill4
          • No DHL Express.

            Well it had the same serial number and all of my data was on it (I had a backup just in case).


            mrlinux
        • Hmmm.. Not my experience at all...

          I deal with Apple support all the time... They
          are friggin awesome!!!!

          I had a MBP (MacBook Pro) with a failed logic
          board... I called Applecare Tuesday morning, I
          already had a shipping box so they emailed me a
          DHL label... I boxed the MBP and brought it to
          DHL a little before noon (same day). I had the
          repaired MBP delivered Wednesday Afternoon
          (next day)...

          I call Apple for parts and they almost always arrive in a day.

          I call Dell and have them overnight parts (even
          critical parts for servers) and they take at
          least 5 days... Granted it always takes at
          least 2 or 3 calls because for some reason, the
          first call or 2 always drops before we can get
          through the process and I have to call back and
          start from scratch.

          The reason Apple is rated #1 and has been for
          the past decade is because they are far, far,
          far better... By a huge margin.
          i8thecat
    • I live in Austin

      and many years ago my son worked for Dell in CS. In fact that's where he got his MSCE. That was back when they were #1 in tech support. It all seems to have fallen apart when they off-shored. Not to say that their off-shore support people are clueless (I have never dealt with them) but I do know that it's a shame that a once-great company has fallen so far so fast.
      steeleblue_cactus
  • Adrian...

    Did the second visit get your computer fixed ???
    mrlinux
    • 2nd visit ...

      ... doesn't happen until tomorrow ...
      Adrian Kingsley-Hughes
  • You get what you pay for.

    You wanted a cheap machine. Deal with it.
    frgough
    • RE: You get what you pay for.

      Cheap is a subjective word here. The base price is $999.

      http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-studio-xps-13?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

      If you don't have anything useful to say, "cheap" it to yourself...
      slimmac1
      • Yeah for that kind of money he could have an Macbook

        NT
        mrlinux