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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Wanted: Your best/worst customer services stories

By | April 16, 2009, 5:18am PDT

I get a lot of email from readers of this blog (and yes, I do read all of it, even if I never manage to get around to replying) and sometimes I get in a cracking question that’s idea for a group discussion. Here’s one from Lynne:

In your experience which tech company offers the best and/or worst customer service experience?

There are plenty of surveys out there that concentrate on this subject but I don’t feel that just picking out a company from a sea of names is really all that helpful since I think that the reason why that company’s customer service was judged good or bad is an important factor.

I have to be honest and say that I have very little contact with customer services. Partly that’s down to the fact that when things go wrong I try to kick them back into working order, and when the kicking fails to produce the desired results I usually approach the company via the side door.

Here are some questions to get the conversation rolling:

  • Over the past 12 months what company offered you the best/worst customer services experience?
  • What made the experience good/bad?
  • Did this experience influence your future purchasing?
  • Did you tell others at the time about your experiences?

Shoot!

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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Buy.com
donniebnyc666 Updated - 20th Apr 2009
This is from several years ago. I bought a new printer for a client from Buy.com. When I opened the box onsite it was obviously used. The printer was not in its original packaging, had fingerprints all over it, and the cartridges were already installed. Not surprisingly, it did not work.

Buy.com told me it was on sale so I could not return it. They didn't seem to care about the fact that it was not new and did not work.

I reported them to the BBB and the Attorneys General in NY and CA, and the FTC. Then I forwarded this info to the person I had been emailing at Buy.com.

I got a refund that day.
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Frontier Communications
xXSpeedzXx 16th Apr 2009
I recently had a bad experience with Frontier Communications. I recently relocated for a job, and in the process left Frontier's service area. The issue is that when I cancelled I was told that I would not be charged a cancellation fee. I ended up getting a bill for $800. I called and they said they would take care of it. 2 weeks later I get another bill for $800.

Another phone call later they dropped $400 of it, left $400 of it on the bill, (due to it was a promotion I signed up under for a free computer). Which is all fine and dandy. But here is where the bad experience comes in.

I told the lady that in all of the documentation I have that I do not see where it said that I would get billed for the computer. She said well it is something that I electronically signed when I received the computer. I told her that I remember doing that but don't seem to have a copy of any contract that was done up online. I asked her if I could get a copy. You would have think that I had asked her for the impossible.

The lady said that I couldn't get a copy of it, and when asked why she told me that they didn't keep them, that UPS has it, or that it was a verbal contract. I said none of those things make any sense at all, like why wouldn't a company keep the contract, especially if it says the customer will buy the computer should they cancell, and why would UPS have Frontier's contracts, and Verbal agreements don't mean squat.

She put me on hold to talk to her supervisor, and came back and said that they found it, and that they would send it out to me. I said great. She then goes on to threatening me that Frontier at their discretion could charge me an addition $30, per month of the entirity of the contract period, 2 years, for the discounted pricing I was getting under the bundled services. I said you know that was not necessary, and that all I asked for was a copy of contract. And that is basically where our conversation ended.

I have since written a letter to the GM of the service area I was in, no response. I have filed a complaint with the better business bureau, BBB responded, but still no response from Frontier, Oh and I never did receive the contract, I only received a print out that says I agreed to something, not what that something is.

So consumer beware.
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* Over the past 12 months what company offered you the best/worst customer services experience?
o Good: BitDefender
o Bad: AT&T

* What made the experience good/bad?
o Good: They furnished a call ticket system, responded in a professional, timely manner and resolved the issue.
o Bad: They didn't even address my issue and offered no follow up assistance
* Did this experience influence your future purchasing?
o You betcha! I am dropping my AT&T contract.
* Did you tell others at the time about your experiences?
o Yes. I filed a survey complaint on the support call. To date there has been no response back.

They don't deserve my business.

Ready, Fire, Aim! wink
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BELKIN get an A
Scubajrr 16th Apr 2009
The internet at my wife's office went out and she ask me to take a look. (I'm the unofficial tech support) I found their router (an 7 year old belkin 802.11B) had a bad WAN port. I called belkin tech support to see if there was a hard reset I could try before telling her boss to buy a new one. The tech rep verified the wan port was bad then ask for the address to send a new router. I mentioned the router was 7 years old but was told Belkin gear has a lifetime warranty. Next day a new 802.11n router arrived via FedEx overnight. Belkin rep even gave a follow-up call to make sure the installation went smoothly. Anytime I'm buying, if belkin is available that's the way I go.
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RE: Wanted: Your best/worst customer services stories
mhmyers@... Updated - 18th Apr 2009
I have repeated this message below About Dell support, using a better title. Now I realize I could have just changed the title...Oh, well, it's a bad day when I don't learn something new...
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Should have filed a report
xXSpeedzXx 16th Apr 2009
with the Better Business Bureau. At least that way it would be on record with a consumer reporting agency.
Chevrolet... Worst Customer Service ever.

A Recall notice came: Your Windshield has been recalled...come in for a replacement.

The car is taken and left and it takes 2 weeks to get it replaced, along with every other window on the car.

The car comes home, is parked in the driveway for a night... get in the car... Windshield is cracked.

It is a Saturday... I take it to the dealership at 12:50pm... The service department supposedly closes at 1pm...but they are already closed and have left. The people still there won't allow me to leave the car and so I have to bring it back.

A few days later I bring it back, they are very cryptic about what they are going to do about the windshield... 'we will have someone check it out'.

A week passes, no word from them and no return calls.. I finally get a call back.

A GM regional rep says a rock hit your Windshield and they won't pay for replacing it.

No Rock or anything else hit the Windshield.

Still battling with them... but this is exactly why GM is gonna be closed soon.

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File a Better Business Bureau report
xXSpeedzXx 16th Apr 2009
and then if they don't respond, sue em.
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InstallAware
shoek 16th Apr 2009
Check out this link to a thread at CodeProject.com about a developer in Turkey asking for pre-sales info on InstallAware, a InstallShield competitor for creating software installations:

http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=2994975#xx2994975xx
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HP
peterj2706@... 16th Apr 2009
HP - Excellent - Almost 3 year old HP/Compaq Laptop had a key pop off. Called, they sent me a paid shipping box, and I sent it in for service, they had to replace the entire keyboard, dumb, but its their money. Also asked them to look at hinge, it was starting to crack. At first they said $350 to repair. Asked for supervisior, who immediately approved it as warranty repair. Excellent, listen to and work with the customer! I've since bought a new HP laptop (and they gave me a generous trade in on the old one)....
In January of this year, I purchased a Dell computer system. The system did not perform as it should when I first connected it. I was in touch with Dell support and they were unable to correct the issues with this new Dell computer system.

After months of contacting Dell support and trying to get this system to work as advertised, Dell finally shipped me an exchange system.

The exchange system was not configured as the original system. I contacted Dell support again and they advised me to return the system, which I did. I did not hear anything further from Dell support.

I then contacted Dell support again and was shipped another exchange system, again not configured as the original. I contacted Dell support and was assured that the system would be corrected. When I received it, the second exchange system was still not configured as the original system.

I contacted Dell support once again and advised them of the difference in the two systems and Dell support sent Banctec to my home to replace the components that were not as the original.

I had to reinstall the operating system due to the incorrect components not being supported for the replaced components. I then added two additional hard drives and configured them in a Raid0 array and installed the operating system once again.

The system started to not operate as it should, as it had with the other systems. I contacted Dell support and requested an addon raid controller card and was refused.

The very next morning, on October 7, 2008 at approximately 10:00 AM, I received a telephone call out of the blue, by a person that advised me he was from Dell Corporate Office, and wanted to know what my issues were. I tried to explain to him about all the issues I had with these Dell systems and was told that Dell would do nothing to correct these issues since the system did not ship with a Raid0 array and I was not the original owner, even though I had transferred ownership to myself.

He further told me I had no other recourse and all the issues were caused by me. I was verbally abused by this person and profoundly thrashed to the point of harassment. The person from Dell Corporate Office verbally attacked me and although he never used curse words, I felt I had been cursed out. He offered no resolution to my issues except to offer to send another motherboard for my system. I tried to explain to him that would not correct the issues.

Now, I can accept the defective Dell computer system, but I cannot accept being attacked and verbally assaulted by someone representing himself as a person from Dell Corporate Office. This was personally offensive and extremely unprofessional.

I do not want, nor do I expect, Dell will do anything at all about this, but I could not let this occur without someone at Dell knowing how some of their employees are treating their loyal customers.
Thank you for your time,
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AT&T: WORST

SONIC: BEST ( an ISP that HAS to use AT&T hardware )

AT&T sent out CLUELESS hardware techs FIVE TIMES to fix dropping DSL issues. EVERY ONE spent OVER AN HOUR trying to blame my Zoom X6 and inside wiring as the problem ( I had installed the latest service entrance and NEW wiring ). Each one had to admit that the COMPANY wiring was at fault BUT NEVER FIXED THE PROBLEM!!

That was until I dropped AT&T as the provider and signed up with SONIC.
The same dropped DSL happened again. I ended up talking to the VP in charge of technology. He admitted that they had to depend on AT&T personnel in the SFBA....But would send out a special troubleshooter...WHO FOUND THE PROBLEM ON THE POLE. AT&T LEFT TESTING CONNECTIONS THAT SHORTED THE LINES!!

AT&T deserves to die.
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FXCK ONKYO, NEVER BUY AGAIN!!!!!
jedaon@... Updated - 17th Apr 2009
Here is my situation- This problem has been going on since 11/06/08, just got my receiver back for the third time on 3/31/09. BTW- this is a 1200 dollar unit.

I had an Onkyo TXSR804S that worked great for a couple years and i wanted to upgrade to a receiver that did Dolby TrueHD and DTSHD, and I also needed more HDMI ports. So i sold the TXSR804S on amazon and bought the TXSR806S. After having that unit for about 2 weeks (5 days of that i was traveling for work) i noticed Blue dots on the screen when in 1080P at 60Hz.

I contacted Onkyo tech support, and explained the problem, the told me that the unit that i had was bad and i needed to send it back to who i bought it from to get a replacement, so I did.

When the new unit arrived, it had the same issues. So I was back in contact with tech support to let them know, and they said that they would get back to me. After explaining over and over again that i have tried this receiver on 2 different Plasmas, 3 PS3's and 2 Xbox360's with the same result and hammering away at the fact that it only shows up in 1080P at 60Hz.

After going back and forth with them i asked to talk to a manager, they transferred me over to Alcena Vaughn, who was absolutely NO HELP. Every time that I talked to her she said she would get back to me, she NEVER DID, i always had to call her back.

Again after hammering away at the fact that it only shows up in 1080P at 60Hz they were finally able to reproduce the problem at the beginning of December. She told me that they would have an answer till after the FIRST OF THE YEAR. At this point i tried to return the unit from who i bought it from and they wouldn't return it, they said that they can only send me a replacement unit, alot of good that does. Also every time that I talked with Alcena Vaughn she always said that she would call me back on a certain day or time. That never happened, every time I called her to get a status update she said that she would call me back on a Monday, i would give her till Wednesday then i would call her back.

It was either January 14th or 15th that i called again to find out the status of the fix, she told me that the fix went in the computer system on 1/9/09 and that she was about ready to call me to tell me, sure i wonder how long that would've taken. Now that the fix is in the computer, they put me in contact with a repair center so i could send my unit off to get fixed, and they made me PAY FOR SHIPPING!

BTW-Onkyo will only replace the unit if its been sent back to THEM 3 times, meaning the first unit that I sent back to the dealer DIDN'T count, and replace it with what another broken unit?!?!

After receiving my unit back from the repair center, the problem is still there just not as bad. So i called Alcena Vaughn back up to tell here the problem and that i wanted a replacement unit, she kept telling me that the unit needed to be sent back 3 times for a replacement unit to be sent out. Tired of getting the runaround with her i called tech support and told them i wanted to speak to her manager(Don Phillips). He was just as much help, so i asked to talk to his supervisor, he told me that he doesn't have an extension and gave me his email. His name is Jack Cooper, National Service Manager jack.cooper@us.onkyo.com.

Here's what i received from him-
We are sending a box and return label to have your unit returned here to our headquarters for evaluation.
I am sorry to hear of the service problems that you related regarding your TX-SR806S. Your unit is the first that we have had that the circuit board replacement has not resolved the problem. We are sending a box and return label to have your unit returned here to our headquarters for evaluation.

After 2 weeks i finally received my box and sent it off to them. After they had it for a week, they couldn't get the problem to show. (Jack Coopers words-We will continue to test for another day or two to see if problem will exhibit itself.) All this time and NO ONE at Onkyo noted that i have a 58 inch PLASMA, they were doing the tests on a 32 inch LCD.

After going back and forth with Cooper here is what he says-
The factory engineer has obtained and loaded a later version firmware update. The unit has been running for a day under full test. Unit has been running partially covered to increase the heat and has had two or three of our Customer Support, technician or engineers with it all day. As it stands now we will be returning this unit if the recheck Monday morning looks good.

Come on, wouldn't that be one of the first things you would've checked?!? Oh and BTW i received the unit back on Tuesday when it was shipped ground. They NEVER retested the unit on Monday they shipped it out on Friday. The unit seems to be working fine but I'm still skeptical, going to give it at least a month before i decide to sell it.
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Dell Tech support cost me money
mhmyers@... 18th Apr 2009
I had a Dell XPS Gen 4. I added two more hard drives and a second DVD writer. I also added about 5 USB hard drives for backup. The computer would power off by itself. I chatted with customer support and they told me the power supply could not support the hardware I now had and that I needed to replace it. The power supply is proprietary (it takes up the entire bottom of the tower case) but they said that it uses the same configuration as the XPS that came after mine. But they don't have any in stock. They told me to try the after-market vendors, and gave me the part number to look for. I found it, bought it and installed it. It fit the case, but had all the wrong connectors. The motherboard had changed and the connectors wouldn't fit. I called Dell customer support and told them of their error. The new person I spoke to told me I had been given the wrong information. I got his email address, as well as his supervisor, and emailed the log I had saved of the chat. They told me that they could see I was given the wrong information, but there was nothing they could do. I told them the after-market vendor would not take back the part and that I felt they owed me the money I spent on the part. They said NO. I went up as far as I could and the answer was still NO. They told me they "ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TECHNICAL ADVICE OFFERED BY THEIR TECHNICIANS". Don't do business with Dell. If they give you the wrong advice and blow up your system, it's your fault, and not theirs. Very bad company policy in my opinion.
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Buy.com
donniebnyc666 Updated - 20th Apr 2009
This is from several years ago. I bought a new printer for a client from Buy.com. When I opened the box onsite it was obviously used. The printer was not in its original packaging, had fingerprints all over it, and the cartridges were already installed. Not surprisingly, it did not work.

Buy.com told me it was on sale so I could not return it. They didn't seem to care about the fact that it was not new and did not work.

I reported them to the BBB and the Attorneys General in NY and CA, and the FTC. Then I forwarded this info to the person I had been emailing at Buy.com.

I got a refund that day.

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