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Was the netbook a "bad times" notebook?

By | August 31, 2010, 6:45am PDT

Summary: According to Gartner analyst Raphael Vasquez, low-end notebooks are edging netbooks out of the limelight. Was the netbook a “bad times” notebook that people turned to because of the low price tag?

According to Gartner analyst Raphael Vasquez, low-end notebooks are edging netbooks out of the limelight. Was the netbook a “bad times” notebook that people turned to because of the low price tag?

This is what Vasquez had to say:

“Buyers who once would have bought a mini-notebook based solely on its low price now seem more inclined to buy a low-end standard notebook, especially since the prices of the two have converged. Mini-notebooks are slowly but surely carving out a market niche for themselves as companion devices. However, the emergence of media tablets is a growing threat to that niche.”

Gartner’s predictions are that netbook sales will freefall from accounting for a massive 20% of all mobile PC sales at the end of 2009, to a modest 10% by the end of 2014.

Netbooks were an oddity. They started life as small, cheap devices designed to run Linux, but then quickly took on a life of their own, becoming mini-notebooks running Windows. I think that the popularity of the netbook caught everyone by surprise. Microsoft had to turn to XP even though Vista was out simply because Vista wasn’t capable of running on the diminutive device because of its voracious system requirements, especially in the graphics department. OEMs scrabbled to come up with increasingly cheaper and better netbooks in an attempt to outdo each other. Consumers, lured by the price, mistakenly saw them as notebooks with a smaller screen, and many expected more performance than the little device could offer.

So, what’s changed?

Well, first off, people aren’t as price-sensitive as they were last year. People have (or at least feel like they have) more money to splash around and don’t feel locked in to the budget end.

Then there’s the fact that notebooks are both better and cheaper than they were last year. Notebooks are now around the same price that a decent netbook was selling at, so there’s no need settle for a small screen anymore.

Then there’s tablets. Tablets have been around for years, but as far as most consumers were concerned they didn’t exist until Apple unveiled the iPad. This new device offers consumers many of the benefits of a netbook packaged in a super-sexy form factor. And the price is pretty competitive too.

Given the pressures on the netbook sector, I’d be surprised if they even account for 10% of mobile PC sales by 2014, especially once OEMs start getting tablets powered by Windows out of the door.

Thoughts?


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  • I don't think it was.
    I think they were a nice accessory to carry with you on trips or to school, when a full sized notebook wasn't needed. I rather regret selling off my first netbook, which was an ASUS 900HA.
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    Cylon Centurion
    31st Aug 2010
  • Yup
    @NStalnecker Yeah that's exactly what I use my HP Mini for. I don't really have much of a need for it outside of school but it's light weight and small size make it perfect for hauling around in a backpack and taking notes on auditorium style desks.
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    mmadink
    31st Aug 2010
  • I still think that the sweet spot is for about 11.5 inch screens.
    But, also tablets with 11.5 inch screens will be the sweet spot. Look for multi-core Arm based devices to help increase the performance, at the same time, reducing weight and lowering costs.
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    DonnieBoy
    31st Aug 2010
  • Freudian slip??
    "OEMs scrabbled to come up with increasingly cheaper and better netbooks in an attempt to outdo each other."

    Hehe...really? "scrabbled"? Yeah, my kids' netbooks are quite handy for games, checking email, browsing...and believe it or not they didn't expect them to be video editing monsters, nor gaming screamers...although I have seen them playing WoW!
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    wizard57m@...
    31st Aug 2010
  • RE: Was the netbook a
    My two grandaughters have netbooks. With 2 GB of memory they both run Windows 7 Home Premium with no problems. They are excellent for online homework browsing, email, and light word processing. They can even watch movies. They fit in a backpack a lot easier than a notebook. They have each have an iphone and the eldest had an ipad. Have to look "cool" you know. But for web browsing and homework the netbooks get used a lot more. Don't think they would enjoy toting around a notebook.
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    Joe Dufflebag
    31st Aug 2010
  • RE: Was the netbook a
    Well yes, that's exactly what they were. Few people if offered a Netbook and a Laptop at the same price choose the Netbook.

    I think the iPad is largely irrelevant here, it's a different animal. You actually NEED a computer already to use one. There is some crossover but it's pretty small.

    It is the falling price of laptops that have eaten the Netbook market. Weirdly Windows 7 hasn't helped. While many people will tell you that Windows 7 runs fine on a Netbook the actual truth is rather different. Buyers have seen Windows 7 and on the whole like it, they'll spend a little extra on a system that can make a decent stab at running it - buyers are CHOOSING to buy a nicer system so they can run Windows 7.

    It is probably the falling prices of Laptops AND the willingness of buyers to pay a little more to get Windows 7 (rather than XP) that will kill off the Netbook. I'm sure nobody will be happier than Microsoft.
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    Jeremy-UK
    31st Aug 2010
  • RE: Was the netbook a
    In all likelyhood, the netbook and ultra-portable markets will merge into it's own market sector in a year or two. It's a very nice form factor for lugging around or grabbing by the bed for checking email. And with streaming video and software delivery services coming online, who needs a dvd drive anymore?
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    podstolom
    31st Aug 2010
  • Compared the two this weekend
    My wife's R51 rolled over and died on Friday. She wanted my laptop to keep working - not really an acceptable long term solution. So we compared netbooks + monitor to low end laptops. Her laptop never leaves the house so we could be more forgiving on certain types of build quality - ruggidized was not necessary.

    She needed a system that ran Office, a web browser and LaTeX. Consequently, a netbook running Linux or Windows 7 Starter were out. What we found was that netbooks with Win 7 Home Premium (or whatever it was) started around $450. Low end laptops with bigger screens, more RAM, more HD, better CPUs and all started at $450.

    So for her primary machine, it made no sense to get a netbook. Unless a netbook is a secondary system, they are virtually pointless to people doing office work.

    I appreciate the of a netbook, but with laptops with A) reasonable build quality, B) decent specs and C) comparable prices, I don't see how they will gain marketshare. The iPad and various smartphones increase the pressure and decrease the value of a netbook.

    I'd be surprised if they ended up at 10% in 2014 instead of 5%.
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    mtgarden
    31st Aug 2010
  • RE: Was the netbook a
    No!! There are lots of us who need a small footprint, light-weight, relatively cheap pc. That's NOT a smartphone or an ipad or a laptop. My only suggestion for improvement is to "ruggedize" netbooks for pre-teen users.
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    larason
    31st Aug 2010
  • RE: Was the netbook a
    @larason I totally agree with you. I'm an actor, always in different locations and low weight, small footprint and a more resistant machine is what I need. I don't need an iPad that depends from another computer or a big laptop. I need exactly what i bought last time: a netbook. For use at home I have a 15" widescreen laptop and a desktop with more expansion capacity and devices attached to it than the International Space Station. So I know I'd be buying another netbook as soon as I find one with a little more processing power just for speed. I'm running Windows 7 Enterprise just fine with a 500GB hard drive and 2GB of RAM in my Acer One 150AOD
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    Master Skywalker
    31st Aug 2010
  • RE: Was the netbook a
    @larason

    That is correct. For about $360, I can grab an ASUS netbook, add a 2gb ram stick and my teenagers and college bound kids have email, net, and homework, Google voice, Skype, all covered.

    Sure no DVD but there are workarounds.

    Small size and affordablity are the key selling points for the netbook. My kids love them and don't want the weight of a laptop.

    It's a separate niche.

    BTW - know several corp execs who love their maxed out netbooks. Now they are packing them throughout the buildings for meetings. Portability.
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    jtdunc@...
    31st Aug 2010
  • RE: Was the netbook a
    The greatest advantage of a netbook, in my opinion, is the battery life. Find me a notebook at a netbook price point ($399 when I bought my eeePC 1000he) that has 8+ hrs of battery life. Couldn't then, can barely find one now. I use my netbook every day, and I'm loving the long battery life! Only thing I'd change is a bigger (12") screen.
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    julie.holmes@...
    31st Aug 2010
  • Overpriced and under-featured
    A netbook seemed ideal for me to take when traveling with only carry-on luggage. As I looked into buying one, they were priced the same or higher as decent lower-end laptops. Which might be OK, except for the same money you get a crippled version of Win7, low 1024x screen resolution, no optical drive, minimal memory, etc. So do I pay the same $400 for a lot less than I'd get buying a lower end laptop? No, I use my existing good laptop and skip the netbook.
    If they could make a decent netbook with better screen resolution, and keep the price around $250, I'd have already gotten one, but 1024x just isn't enough even for viewing most web pages, let alone looking at your photos from the day. Compact size, 10" 1280x widescreen, $250 or less, I'll still consider it. Otherwise, never mind.
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    garyleroy@...
    31st Aug 2010
  • Notebooks Netbooks
    To echo what others have said, cost wasn't a consideration when I bought my first netbook a year or so ago--or my second one a few weeks ago.

    I carry a netbook because it's small, light, and runs all day on a charge. Netbooks still fit the bill for those requirements.

    An iPad? No thanks. I prefer a keyboard for extensive typing, Flash is kind of important to me, and I need full integration with my organization's Active Directory infrastructure.
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    ParrotHead_FL
    31st Aug 2010
  • Funny Thing about opinion of non users.
    I will be the first to admit the iPad is a luxury expensive product. Even on hesitated buying one because of the price.

    Apple products have never been about price. There about conveniance and ease of use. Plus the lack of bugs and crashes is a lot more appealing as well.

    But after having for a few months now, I can absolutely say this is the future. Prices will come down, and functionality is far superior.

    I own a IT Consulting firm and have been a life long Microsoft Admin. Once I got the Ipad and downloaded some good apps you can do way more with this then you could ever do with a PC. The better part is, it's intuitive and you can get the apps much easier.

    Flash can be a slight issue as I run into sites every once in a while that require flash. But in the long run, Flash does run like crap and should be ditched for a standard instead of a commercial option.

    Keyboard is awsome on the ipad, I rarely find myself caring about no keyboard because the keyboard is the exact size I need. I also like keyboards before this on mobile devices, hence why I was not sold on the iphone. But keyboard is barely needed and the bluetooth keyboard auto syncs to it when I walk back into the office and want to use it. Not to mention that my Air display automatically makes it a second monitor if I want that aswell.

    The active directory integration has never been an issue with apps like file browser etc. In reality you will all be using a simular product in 5 years max as you will look back and realize you were just creatures of habit and didn't extensively test it before critizing.
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    Virtustructure
    31st Aug 2010

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