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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Where does Amazon's Kindle App for the iPad leave the Kindle?

By | March 22, 2010, 7:12am PDT

Amazon has released a few teaser screenshots of its Kindle App for Apple’s iPad … but where does that leave the Kindle.

The screenshots for the Kindle App seem impressive enough:

It’s already pretty clear that the Kindle App on the iPad offers readers features that the Kindle itself cannot. Color and neat animations are just two of those features. Add to that the fact that the iPad itself can do more - much more - than the “hardware” based Kindle can offer.

On a fundamental level I dislike the Kindle App as much as I dislike the Kindle itself, for reasons basically boiling down to black-box DRM mechanisms. You’re basically getting a lease on a book as opposed to buying one and you end up with far less control over your virtual book than you do over a real book. But that said, it’s obvious to me that Amazon’s hardware kindle is toast.

Back in November I outlined several problems with the Kindle and Kindle development and gave it three years. Now I think that estimate of the Kindle’s lifespan might be an overestimate.

The Kindle is toast.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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I wish publisher understood this...
mrlinux 23rd Mar 2010
So we could get more content available on other devices.
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Amazon recognizes what the printer manufacturers recognized long ago - the money is in the consumables. The Books are where they will make their money. If they can sell more books by killing their own hardware, then so be it.

This is smart on their part, if it does in fact, sell more ebooks.
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I wish publisher understood this...
mrlinux 23rd Mar 2010
So we could get more content available on other devices.
The kindle is the closest experience you'll get to real
paper, period. Staring into a flashlight for hours on
end won't be a welcome replacement for anyone who has
used a kindle even once.
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i agree
bannedfromzdnetagain Updated - 22nd Mar 2010
the kindle never stood a chance, as any ebook-reader. no one wants a
black and white device that can't even surf the web properly, flickers for
a second every time you turn a page and looks like it was superglued by
an 11 year old in the 70s.

and i wouldn't bet on the kindle software platform eighter.
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I have never read a book that has color as a focal point. A million or more people have already bought the Kindle in one form or another. Black type on white has been the norm since the printing press was invented. Also I did not buy my Kindle2 to surf the web. The fact I don't have to pay for the web access as you do for the iPad and the LCD eats up a battery charge. I have had my Kindle2 for a month now and have only charged it three times. What is the big deal for the screen flicker when you are refreshing? When you turn a page in a paper book, it is almost the same when you turn the pages of the Kindle ebook when your eyes have to refocus. Get your hands on a Kindle2, as your past experiences must have been with the orginal Kindle when you mention super glue. As for the Kindle software platform being an "eighter" is that an eight out of ten or what?
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First off, the Kindle will have its 3 years on November of this year. Want to place a side-bet with me on whether it is still going strong then?

Second, you obviously don't read books electronically, since you would appreciate the e-Ink immensely if you did.

I use the Kindle PC app, and it is good for some things, but the light weight, paper quality, ability to read in direct sunlight, and immense battery life of the Kindle hardware are things the iPad (and other tablets) won't have soon.

Some advice: get and use a Kindle, if you're going to 'compare' them with other devices.
My 1-1/2 week battery life and visibility in very bright conditions are must haves in my e-book experience.
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I totally agree. n/t
Rama.NET 22nd Mar 2010
n/t
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The Kindle is Dead
jameskatt 22nd Mar 2010
The Kindle is Dead. Period.
End of Story.
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No it isn't
still not nice 22nd Mar 2010
Not until amazon says so.
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Weight matters
TopherKersting 22nd Mar 2010
Holding 1.6 pounds while reading for hours is significantly different than holding 11 ounces. If you want a portable PC, the iPad is better, but if you're just looking for a reader, the Kindle's not dead yet.
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Too early to issue a death notice until people have seen
the screen and read a book on it. E-Ink is very gentle
on the eyes and good for reading a book in the light.
Wow - talk about being clueless!
Why is it that in high-tech history, there's always this dramatic "this will replace anything that ever existed before" and "instant death" hype that somehow needs to be associated with it? Good new technology doesn't need to make itself look great by comparing against current technology. It only makes people doubt its relevance. Take these examples:

1) Mainframes: no technology has replaced IBM mainframes yet (IBM continues to sell more MIPS QoQ.) All that despite the claims of the "new guys."
2) Television: 3D, LED, LCD, Plasma, CTR ... none has or will replace radio. Oh, and radio didn't replace newspapers either. All that despite the claims of the TV industry. And the radio industry. Decades ago!
3) Herbal medication: no modern medications have replaced those either. However, no such claims were ever made by that industry.
4) Color photography. Didn't replace B&W. Quite the opposite trend is happening as we speak.

Those are just a few examples.

Kindles appeal to certain people. So do iPads. They're not mutually exclusive. Very few things actually are.
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Very good examples.
Rama.NET 22nd Mar 2010
n/t
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Kindle Isn't Dead
gotamd@... 22nd Mar 2010
The Kindle isn't dead. A lot of people, myself included, really like the device. And Amazon is not overly draconian with its DRM. It's apologized for the 1984 fiasco, and that's about as bad as it's gotten. You can redownload any digital content from Amazon, so you don't have backup problems either.

Reasons the hardware won't die due to the iPad include: price, e-ink, free wireless (price...), and size/portability.
My wife and I both have Kindles. We both want iPads (regardless of the unfortunate name). But I don't expect I'd be reading much on the iPad.

I see the iPad as great for intermittant use, but not for prolonged ebook reading. For one, I don't much like reading off of a back-lit computer screen, for another, I don't have much expectation that battery life will allow it, whether it is the iPad or some other battery device with back-lighting and color.

Granted, color would be nice. But most things I read don't require color, and if I want to see color plates then I can send the book to to my Mac or PC Kindle app.

And, while my iPhone needs charging at least once a day, my Kindle needs a rechage once everu 7 to 10 days. And I read a lot. I really dislike recharge downtime.
I'm legally blind. I use the Kindle II daily to 'read' the newspaper using the Kindle's very good text-to-speech capability. As far as I know, that isn't an option in the iPad. The user interface to the text-to-speech on the Kindle could use some improvement - you have to stop it to force a go-to-next-article via the 5-way key, but once you learn to use the hot-key combination instead of the menu it isn't impossible.
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Not until..
richard233 22nd Mar 2010
I can legally buy/resell/trade/lend MY ebooks will
I get a device to replace my books. Yes, I'm sure
someone will jailbreak the DRM, but I do not want to.

Once that occurs, I still need a device that was
the size of a trade paperback, 2 screens, fast
refresh, easy on the eyes, and the books were priced
to reflect the fact there is no real costs for
storage or delivery and may in fact cut out most of
the middle men (or the resellers get a much smaller
piece of the pie).

I was just at a paperback book show. Lots and lots
of used books at $1 per. The sad thing was, I did not
get many simply because I did not want to buy partial
sets. Owning books 2 and 3, or 1 and 3, would drive
me a bit nuts as I could not properly read the story.
If they come out with the right device in all
likelihood most books would become available an
e-edition. I would love to have access to my books
without the need to waste space storing them.
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Some of that free content from Amazon itself. I've also discovered the huge selection of decades of fine fiction and non-fiction available to me and even pre-formatted elegantly for Kindle.

I have a number of documents, personal and business related, that I've put on my Kindle as well.

Amazon DRMs? -- only concern me on my few read-and-toss "best-seller" reading list.
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The iPad will not kill the Kindle
gtaylor2 22nd Mar 2010
I just bought a Kindle after considering the differences between the iPad and the Kindle. The Kindle has the great eInk (great for the eyes unlike the iPad), it doesn't need to be recharged often (unlike the iPad), it is a lot lighter and smaller (great for reading in bed and is easier to take on the road). Also, what people either don't know or are not taking into consideration is that sleep experts recommend not watching TV or using a computer before going to bed. The tech has an effect on the brain. So the kindle is compatible with proper sleeping habits. My friends who are absolutely against reading on a computer and want a book have always been won over once they try my Kindle and some are saving up for one now. The iPad is still and big LED monitor, which they don't want to read on. Period!

I believe the Kindle will co-exist with the iPad and thhe other tablets that are coming out in 2010
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The iPad will not kill the Kindle
still not nice 22nd Mar 2010
I believe the Kindle will co-exist with the iPad and thhe other tablets that are coming out in 2010

I fully agree. I don't see why it has to be an either/or situation. Don't mind Adrian.
It's too bad Adrian's job requires him to create black-and-white propositions like this to generate interest by readers, and therefore eyeballs on ads, because I generally like his take on things.

iPad/Kindle isn't an either-or proposition. The iPad does things the Kindle will never do, but the Kindle is probably a better ebook reader than the iPad (unless they come up with an eInk screen and shrink the size and weight of the iPad). As with reading Amazon books on my Mac, the iPad really isn't suitable as a primary platform for ebooks because of the device's price, size, weight and backlit screen. In the same way, the Kindle will never replace the iPad.

If I had the choice but could ONLY choose one of the two devices, the iPad would win for versatility. Fortunately that binary choice is unnecessary.
Amazon has to come down at least $100 just to make sense. I personaly would feel like I was overpaying even at that price. I am not an apple fanboy, heck, I haven't ever owned anything Apple, but the iPad may change that when it drops in price at the end of the year.
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If it were a lease you would know the date they would remove it from your Kindle and for those who purchased 1984 found out just how little control they have over their purchased material.

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