Why you may never see Windows Phone on the Nook

Summary: It's possible that Microsoft has a vision for a unified ecosystem at some point down the line, but right now, it makes more sense for the company to stick with Android.

Microsoft has thrown $300 million at book giant Barnes & Noble to buy itself the Nook e-book business. Does this mean we can expect to see a Nook sporting the Windows Phone operating system any time soon?

I doubt it.

While this deal between Microsoft and Barnes & Noble brings to an end the patent dispute between the two companies, it is reported that Barnes & Noble will still have to pay Microsoft a royalty for each Android-powered Nook it sells. This has led some, including ZDNet's James Kendrick, to assume that now would be a good time to switch the Nook's operating system away from Android and to one supplied by Microsoft, specifically the Windows Phone platform.

Don't get me wrong, a Nook with a Windows Phone operating system -- or some variant of Windows 8 for that matter -- would make for an interesting device. My inner-geek is certainly interested. The Nook is already solid, well-made bit of kit.

While it isn't in the same league as Apple's iPad -- because nothing is -- or Amazon's Kindle Fire tablet for that matter, it's still a very capable tablet. Judging by the reviews people like it a lot. Closer integration with the Windows ecosystem, on both the desktop and on mobile devices, would certainly open up some new and exciting possibilities for the device.

At first blush, a Windows-powered Nook makes sense, but there are huge obstacles: technical, business and social -- in the way that means this is unlikely to happen.

Let's start with the technical reasons. There's no doubt that the Nook would need a serious overhaul before receiving the new operating system. All product redesigns -- even very basic ones -- come with a significant dollar value attached to them, and a platform switch would be a huge redesign. Not only that, but changing the operating system would draw a line under the Nook's ability to dip into to the Android ecosystem for apps and instead make owners reliant on Microsoft's much smaller app ecosystem.

Any change in platform would also mean that current Nook owners would lose access to any apps they purchased for the Android Nook once they upgraded to a Windows-powered Nook. In my experience, this is exactly the sort of thing that annoys people who have bought into a platform. Tinkering with the Nook at this stage just for Microsoft's benefit could be bad for the Nook. And what's bad for the Nook is good for the likes of Amazon.

Then there's the price. The Nook currently sells for $199 for the 8GB model and $249 for the 16GB model. While the current hardware might be capable enough for the Windows Phone operating system, I'm doubtful that it would be good enough to run Windows RT, which is why I think it is unlikely that we will see a Windows Phone powered Nook at all. I doubt that a $200 Windows RT tablet is possible at this stage, unless it is heavily subsidized. Increasing the price of the Nook would certainly reduce its appeal, while a subsidy would mean having to claw cash back through content sales.

From the business side of things, we need to consider that Microsoft isn't going to supply a version of Windows for use on the Nook at no cost at all. It's not how Microsoft does things, and even if it did, doing so would seriously upset other hardware OEMs. Whether the Nook runs Windows or Android, Microsoft still gets a cut from every sale, and that cost will form part of the overall cost of the device.

It's also worth bearing in mind that Microsoft hasn't yet allowed the Windows Phone operating system to be loaded onto any non-phone device. This is where Windows, along with the new Windows RT operating system, comes in. Microsoft has made it clear that Windows Phone is for phones, and since the Nook isn't a phone, unless there's been a radical shift in policy over in Redmond it's never going to get the Windows Phone treatment.

Finally, there are the social issues to consider. The Nook may well be a well-loved device, with about 60 percent of owners giving it a 5-star rating. Popularity is something that you mess with at your peril, and deciding on a whim to change the Nook's operating system -- which, judging from the reviews people seem to like -- could have an adverse effect on how it's received.

After a quick scan of the 1,300 or so customer reviews on Barnes & Noble, I haven't come across a single person who thinks the Nook would be better if it ran the Windows Phone or Windows RT operating system.

Despite Microsoft throwing an alleged billion dollars at Nokia to build Windows Phone handsets, its mobile platform hasn't gained significant traction yet -- certainly nowhere enough to propel it into the forefront of Nook owner's minds.

My feeling is that this Microsoft--Nook partnership has less to do with Windows and more to do with getting a foothold into the e-book ecosystem and leveraging some of that Android--Linux related intellectual property that Microsoft has at its disposal.

It's possible that Microsoft has a vision for a unified ecosystem at some point down the line, but right now, it makes more sense for the company to stick with Android.

Image credit: Barnes & Noble.

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Topics: Software, Microsoft, Mobility, Operating Systems, Windows

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  • Makes sense, but...

    The article make sense, but there may be surprises, MS has not shown its hand on WP8. Android is no match for Win RT, and most people buy a nook for a different reason, not for some silly android apps.
    owllnet
  • Sounds like you arfe desperate

    Sounds like you are desperate trying to come up with a reason they should not go with Windows. Now stay tuned and see what actually happens.
    NoAxToGrind
  • I See What You're Saying

    I'm not well enough versed in the various flavors of Windows to describe what I think will happen in precise enough terms. I expect that NewCo will focus on delivering an e-reader that is big enough for text-books and which will have some affinity to the Windows eco-system. This had better be in time for Christmas 2012 giving. It will not be an omnitablet, such as the Kindle Fire or iPad, because the company, being a subsidiary, cannot on its own subsidize the price. B&N is a book seller now and doing poorly, so it should not be pumping money into NewCo beyond its capitalization commitment. Whatever it is NewCo sells this Christmas has to be a hit and has to be a credible option for schools 10-12 months from now.

    In short, their play, in my unlearned opinion, is to make the best e-reader they can and not worry about others' convergence devices.

    As to hardware/os integration, I expect that is what Microsoft will bring to the party.

    If it works and NewCo makes good money this winter, something among the prototypes they are playing with this summer will be greenlit with an eye to, literally, Christmas 2013 or bust. This will be the product that more closely resembles an iPad or Kindle Fire.

    NewCo will not venture into the telephone market.
    DannyO_0x98
  • Products of MS / Barnes And Noble Effort

    The impression I received, was that MS would help B&N bring out additional Nook models, based on Windows RT - not replace existing Android based models. I imagine B&N could also strike distribution deals with OEMs of Windows RT / 8 tablets / hybrids in B&N stores on college campuses. B&N could require that its Windows 8 ebook app is prominently displayed in systems sold in its stores. Beyond this, it looks like MS and B&N will also collaborate on producing compelling interactive ebook experiences, to rival Apple's.
    P. Douglas
    • Talk about product fragmentation!

      I just don't see that happening successfully. Dividing up their hardware market like that is a recipe for fragmentation with neither product selling enough on its own to be successful.
      use_what_works_4_U
      • Fragmentation in ebooks?

        The Nook is primarily an e-reader. I'm sure MS can write an app that can read the e-books without causing fragmentation in file types, etc.
        kstap
    • This would make sense only if Microsoft was willing to ...

      ... enter the sub-$300 tablet market. That does not sound like Microsoft to me. Microsoft is (or should be) targeting the Apple iPad at $400+ and not messing around with the struggling Android tablet market. MS needs B&N because they are the only on-line bookseller with the experience (and the willingness - though perhaps coerced) to work with Microsoft in the e-book market.
      M Wagner
  • Why you may never see Windows Phone on the Nook

    We may or may not see Windows Phone on the Nook, I certainly hope we do. No one is expecting them to announce such a device tomorrow, next week, or next month. Like you said, there are technical and business aspects (hardware design) that need to be sorted out and that would be at least a year away. By that time the users would want to upgrade anyway. It has nothing to do with the android ecosystem. Most of those apps are free so if they don't run on Windows Phone then no big deal, you download the equivalents of them. There are no social issues. Nook users bought it for the device's capabilities, not the OS. If Microsoft could provide the same functionality there is no problem.
    Loverock Davidson-
  • Why View this as an Either ... Or?

    Nook can continue to be available on Android for those who like it. Most likely, I'm not going to get it. On the other hand, if it sported Windows Phone or the like, it would be the first choice for me. So why not add multiple options? That largely removes most of your arguments against it, IMO.
    WebSiteManager
  • While true for the nook, the things you are saying...

    Are also true for every other tablet developer out there. Everyone will have painful switching costs.

    There's a lot of demand for a windows tablet because it can link in to your desktop better, and Barnes and Noble is now better positioned to meet that demand than anyone else. Really no need to overthink things.
    Popnfresh100@...
  • Windows 8 can run android apps with Bluestacks

    It's possible even if the nook were to run on Windows 8, that it could still run first generation nook apps based in android... There is a Windows 8 application, bluestacks, that will allow android apps to run on Windows OS: http://www.phonearena.com/news/BlueStacks-runs-Android-apps-on-Windows-8_id25666
    robotecture
    • I'm no expert

      I could be very wrong, but this sounds an awful lot like running Windows applications on Linux using Wine. It's a neat idea but every time I've tried the results have been anywhere from "less than stellar" to "OMG that was painful!" with a few "EPIC FAIL" thrown in for good measure.

      It's hard to imagine that kind of virtualization on an inexpensive ARM based tablet.
      use_what_works_4_U
      • Windows-RT is a port to ARM. It will not support ...

        ... legacy Windows applications. It is my sense of things that future Windows applications will have a feature-rich Intel port and a not-so-feature-rich port to Windows-RT which WILL run on ARM tablets.
        M Wagner
      • Totally wrong???

        The people at Bluestacks went way out to ensure a great experience. Bluestacks works more like a widget than a vm. I find that all apps I have used are very smooth, even though it is still in beta. The alpha model worked well also.
        eargasm
  • I think you are wrong.

    If I can get a WinRT tablet that has Nook software, Office, Email, Browser, Neflix, Xbox 360 games, and other apps at the same price as the Android version. I am all in on the WinRT version.
    rmark@...
  • Why are you talking about changing the Nook, when a new product

    makes far more sense?
    Of course they're not going to swap the OS out mid cycle, as you have 2 incompatable versions of the same thing, so of course that's not a popular choice.

    (Also it leaves early adopter in a tiff as they could have had the newer, better version of the Nook had they known, so chaning it wouldn't be too popular with existing customers, even though that change wouldn't affect them at all)

    What will likely happen is a higher end device maybe running Windows 8 or something, with the existing Nook OS being phased out later on down the road.
    William Farrel
  • Wrong wrong wrong. But right about not getting WP because thats just stupid

    WP will be W8 embedded customized for phones. WinRT is W8 embedded customized for arm tablets. Nook will have W8 embedded customized for ereader. No desktop needed. Less than one tenth of 1% of nook buyers care about os. Changing it wouldnt bother anyone material. And W8 can run in less hw than android which means less than current nook. And BN is already making hw changes. Now is a great time for them to switch. The sooner the better for app ecosystem switches. BN/MS will be able to get new Nooks out with licensed W8 embedded for less than $199 unsubsidized at a good profit with no trouble. And a billion dollars is very small for what MS is getting with Nokia. Picture the upside of getting W8 onto Nokia phones/tablets vs BN ereaders and its easily more than 3x, probably more than 30x.
    Johnny Vegas
  • All good points, the most compelling of which ...

    ... is that Microsoft may be forced to sell Windows-RT tablets in the $350-$450 range to compete with the iPad but putting Windows-RT on a $200 device is leaving money on the table. (Microsoft is not likely to do that!)

    Android is not really much of a threat to Microsoft. At $400 though, the Apple iPad is a real threat to the consumer notebook market, which plays in that $350-$450 price range. Microsoft needs to let consumers have their $200 Android tablets so they can concentrate on Apple.

    It seems to me that the Nook deal serves but one purpose - to put Microsoft into the e-Book business without engaging Amazon in head-to-head competition.
    M Wagner
  • Nook needs major refresh

    All I know is that the Nook needs a major dose of excitement. I visited for the first time one of those B&N stores that had a large Nook section in the middle of the store (can't avoid it) and not a singl sole where there playing with the devices. Maybe this partnership will bring some much needed excitement and competition to the Fire, we shall see.

    Regarding transition from Android to WinRT, even if it were to happen right away, the Nook user-base is so small that I don't see it creating a big deal.
    dave95.
  • Microsoft as a Linux (Android) distributor.

    My initial thought was that WP7 or Win8 on my Nook Tablet might not be all bad once they develop comparable apps to what I currently use. (Not a big deal there, I have MS OneNote, MS Hotmail, MS Lync, Adobe Photoshop Elements, and Documents 2 Go.)
    But then I thought, if this makes Microsoft a Linux distributor, doesn't that force them to release all of their Linux code and drop any patent lawsuits? I know that came up a few years back regarding, I believe Red Hat, but MS's excuse for not releasing the code then was that they weren't "distributing" Linux, they were offering organizations an opportunity to purchase a "licensed version" that would keep them from being sued in a patent infringement case. This time around though...I don't think that argument fits.
    gmartinez99016@...