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Windows 7 build 7057 - Performance that blasts past XP, Vista and previous builds

By | March 16, 2009, 6:14am PDT

Summary: Over the weekend I’ve been spending time with the latest leaked build of Windows 7 - build 7057. While this isn’t the release candidate (RC) build that some people claim it is, this build is certainly pretty close to being RC.

Over the weekend I’ve been spending time with the latest leaked build of Windows 7 - build 7057. While this isn’t the release candidate (RC) build that some people claim it is, this build is certainly pretty close to being RC.

How can I tell that we’re close to seeing an RC build? Well, mostly it’s a gut feeling based on the fact that features-wise Windows 7 has been finished for a long time and that now Microsoft seems to be at the stage of adding new wallpapers, tweaking default account pictures, and generally polishing a few aspects of the UI. However, I don’t want to underestimate the importance of getting a look at this build, because it’s the first 32-bit build I’ve seen since the beta 1 release (which was released back in January, but had a build date going back to December 08). Only the 64-bit flavor of build 7048 emerged earlier this month. Build 7057 also the freshest build - the build date stamp, 090305-2000 translates into 5th Mar 2009, 8:00pm - so this is literally just over a week old.

Check out the Windows 7 build 7057 gallery!

Rather than give you a blow-by-blow account of everything that’s different about this build compared to every previous build that we’ve seen (I’ll leave that to others), I’m going to concentrate on the one area that interests me (and many of my readers) the most - performance.

Note: Before I go any further, I feel the need to emphasize that build 7057 is still a beta build and nothing can be taken as being final at this stage.

Important note: I have on several occasions contacted Microsoft for feedback on benchmarking Windows 7 and at this point the company is not ready to discuss performance testing.

Rather than publish a series of synthetic benchmark results for the different operating systems and builds (Microsoft frowns upon benchmarking beta builds, not to mention the fact that the final numbers only really matter for the release candidate and RTM builds), I’ve decided to put Windows 7, Vista and XP head-to-head in a series of real-world tests to find out which OS comes out top.

Let’s look at the test systems and the tests …

The tests –>

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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strangely enough
tmsbrdrs 8th Mar 2010
I've never attempted a Linux install which DID end up with command line install scripts for anything.

I've installed Xubuntu on 4 PCs, Linux Mint on 2, Ubuntu on 2 and PCLinuxOS on 1.

My machines are an old Emachine, a Dell, Compaq, Acer Extensa 5420, several generic machines built at a local computer shop or repaired there and a few others I've salvaged from neighbors. They're all worked properly, no trouble.

However, I have seen twice where Windows refused to boot. I used a Puppy LiveCD to save the files from one before it's owner upgraded and the other, I installed Xubuntu on. It still boots properly, though the HD is failing (the first one is now running Linux Mint).
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Will you be able to post the actual times?
storm14k 16th Mar 2009
Just wondering.
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n0neXn0ne Updated - 16th Mar 2009
Can he post something that is actually useful such as a Changelog .

Enough with the Icons and the seat of the pants speed test.
The predecessor(s) had both.

^o^



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Actual times
daengbo 17th Mar 2009
I was brave enough to post actual results (Adrian is too high-profile to get away with it). It's the January Beta, though.

* Boot time: 1:40
* Shutdown time: 0:18
* Memory use at boot with no extra programs running: 319 MB
* Memory use with four Google Apps tabs (GMail, Docs, Calendar, Photos), Browser, Movie Player, and Image Viewer: 460 MB
* Geekbench score: 1299

Of course, Windows 7 weighs in at about 5GB installed, while Ubuntu 9.04 only takes up about 3GB. In addition, the Ubuntu release boots 40% faster, shuts down 39% faster, uses less memory both at boot (55%) and with apps running (40%), and benchmarks significantly (17%) higher. If you're not tied to Windows (via a specific application or Windows-only hardware), you should give 9.04 a try when it's released.
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Only true in limited cases
notsofast 17th Mar 2009
For the audience on this blog your point is probably valid. For the general population, Ubuntu is not ready for prime time. It's a good OS, but even though the UI is superior to most *nix OS's, it's not easy enough for the typical windows or Mac user. I guess OS X is technically the best *nix UI, but that's another argument.

Then again, I suppose anyone that's really concerned about performance (and not playing games) can probably use Ubuntu or doens't mind making the effort to learn a new OS.
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Better than Vista?
flboffin 20th Mar 2009
My actual times for Vista SP1 (system: Intel DG965WH; C2D 6600; 4 GB 567-MHz RAM; 2x WD 10K 150GB, RAID 1; NV 8500GT 512 MB; WEI 5.0):
* Boot up: 1:00 (to desktop display)
* Shutdown: 0:18
All this with 15 apps running in the System Tray. Bootup to Win Explorer, IE 7.0, and Yahoo IM all connected and running: 1:15. For this I should upgrade to Win 7? I don't think so.
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No Linux is Ready for Consumer Primetime
dkstrauss 13th Apr 2009
I have NEVER attempted a Linux install
(including Ubuntu) that didn't end up with
serious command line install scripts for some
peripheral (or even installed component) driver
issue. Sure, there are lots of hard working
open source advocates out there writing
esoteric drivers - a very dedicated bunch - but
when the average user can barely deal with
Windows Update, these special install scripts
to get an Intel wireless driver installed (a
ThinkPad x60s in this instance), this is
unacceptable.
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strangely enough
tmsbrdrs 8th Mar 2010
I've never attempted a Linux install which DID end up with command line install scripts for anything.

I've installed Xubuntu on 4 PCs, Linux Mint on 2, Ubuntu on 2 and PCLinuxOS on 1.

My machines are an old Emachine, a Dell, Compaq, Acer Extensa 5420, several generic machines built at a local computer shop or repaired there and a few others I've salvaged from neighbors. They're all worked properly, no trouble.

However, I have seen twice where Windows refused to boot. I used a Puppy LiveCD to save the files from one before it's owner upgraded and the other, I installed Xubuntu on. It still boots properly, though the HD is failing (the first one is now running Linux Mint).
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Realy?
jdbukis@... 30th Apr 2009
What Hd were you using because that is quite slow.
My pc from a standard HD booted windows 7 in about 45 seconds including bios.
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a lot of work, but...
Linux Geek 16th Mar 2009
where's the beef.
Many people don't care about windoze anymore.
The real test can be only against Linux and OSX.
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Just curious
GuidingLight 16th Mar 2009
do you actually enjoy sounding unintelligent?

At least most of the trolls here do make the attempt (as lame as it comes off) to sound like they are posting some type of relevant "fact".

You just seem to shoot right out of the gate with the "look at me, I am a fool" type comment.

I was just curious.
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Nicely Put (NT)
safesax2002 16th Mar 2009
(NT)
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he must be working for MS
eggmanbubbagee@... 16th Mar 2009
his efforts at trolling are so transparent and lame you wonder if maybe he's cointelpro - seriously? - nah, he's probably just a maladjusted 18 yr old with nothing better to do
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He's already killed his parents
jackbond 16th Mar 2009
and probably the next door neighbors as well, and can't find anyone else to kill today. So that leaves trolling.

Save yourselves, pay for your software!

Linux - Who do you want to kill today?
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re: murder by Linux
tmsbrdrs 17th Mar 2009
The comments above yours were actually funny and contained some truth.

Yours on the other hand were just bad. You took a perfectly good thread and turned it into Linux bashing.

Whether you like it or not, when you make a comment, make it worth the time it took me to read it.
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Re: deluded lintard
s32432432 16th Mar 2009
Right! 'Cause it's the year of the Linux desktop again.

Go back to your cave.
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Test againt Linux?? Why?
Stan57 16th Mar 2009
Thats a total falsehood,linux on the desktop is less the 1% get that? 1%. Thats means for a fact none cares about linux.Billions use MS and OSX everyday and just get there work or play done.
So why test against Linux? its a vaporware, a nothing when it come to the desktop so just get over it.
People don't care about OSS philosophy,don't care if it doesn't get malware,don't care it rarely gets viruses,don't care if the software that comes with is free,don't care its free

People just don't care and the proof is that after what, 15 years it only has still less then 1% of the desktop market share.
The vast majority that do use linux are corporations that don't even give there customers a price decrease by using Linux.
I personally don't care if anyone uses Linux,but stop pretending that linux on the desktop comes even close to competing on the desktop market,i just doesn't, still after 15 years it still doesn't.

End rant
Stan happy
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Try 4%. Probably because...
914four 17th Mar 2009
...you haven't come out of your cave in a few years. Link: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
This past weekend I installed Ubuntu ( http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download ) on an old HP 800MHz PIII laptop with 256MB of RAM. It runs as well as that same laptop did with the Windows 2000 it came with, and it was a snap to install. I didn't have to compile a single kernel! Heck, I didn't even type anything except a machine name, account name and password!
Linux, try it, you may like it. You can even run it off of the CD without touching the harddrive, so you don't even need to dedicate a machine if you don't want.
Disclaimer: to be fair, once I did the install, it did download something like 175 updates (took about 1/2 an hour over 155Mb line), but I set up a network printer in like 45 seconds and it recognized all the "stuff" in the laptop including ethernet port, modem, trackpad, "cat's tongue" pointer, audio (including hardware controls that required a special driver in Win2k), graphics, wireless PCMCIA card and wireless mouse. I was impressed.
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4% of web developers looking to learn HTML
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 17th Mar 2009
Those logs were from their site alone. That in no way accounts for how many people are using Linux in the real world. To do that you have to look at sites that gather and report data from multiple high-traffic sites, like NetApps:

Windows - 88.4%
Apple - 9.61%
Linux - 0.88%
iPhone - 0.48%

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8

It doesn't matter how much you want it to be untrue, Linux desktop adoption just hasn't happened yet. While you personally may have a ton of Linux friends, note there are vastly more Windows users who are quite happy with their PC.
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I reread their description...
914four 17th Mar 2009
...and you are right, it is from their site alone. I find myself with egg on my face and in your debt de-void.
I am going to talk very sternly to the intern who provided me the link. Well, maybe not so sternly, she's cute and I'm sure she wanted Linux to have 4% market share...
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GNU/Linux has 10 percent of the desktop
pogson 25th Mar 2009
Look at your sources. They show MacOS has 10 percent but Apple only claims 3 percent in filings with SEC. Your stats are seriously over-sampling the USA which is big but just a small part of the PC world. China has more browsers and is sampled at 1-2 percent typically.

Surveys show Germany was at 8 percent GNU/Linux years ago. Brazil is at 20 percent now. Brazil, Russia, and China have governments promoting FLOSS. The world is quite different from the USA.

On side-by-side tests I have done booting XP and GNU/Linux on the same hardware (identical PCs in a lab), I find GNU/Linux boots to a usable desktop several times faster than XP. Booting an even older PC as a thin client is several times faster again. So, it makes a lot of sense to test against GNU/Linux. You would expect to find GNU/Linux wins out because it does not waste time with anti-virus scanning, pre-loading apps that will not be run, DRM, phoning home, re-re-reboots, fragmenting storage, not sharing RAM for multiple users, etc.
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Linux is great why don't you talk about it
tech_walker 17th Mar 2009
on a FOSS forum. This is about Windows not Linux wake up or grow up. By the way FreeBSD is better anyway, PC-BSD actually user friendly!
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You must be THICK
Richard Turpin 17th Mar 2009
Because the rest of the WORLD dont use it! did you get that? Its actually less than half of one percent that use it world wide! Its for playing with it has no world cred!In may 30 years or so someone may purchase the rights and may be make it usable for the ordanairy mortal?
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Before you call someone thick
marks055@... 17th Mar 2009
try reading the post, then you might want to try Firefox it has a built in spell check.
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What if .......
bentedgz 17th Mar 2009
...two marginal os's raced and no one cared. Would the trolls hear about it?
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LOL! You so funny!
Crestview 17th Mar 2009
Maybe YOU don't care, but don't speak for a few million Windows user out here.
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Really?
notsofast 17th Mar 2009
Then why does less than 1/10 of the world use OS X and less than 2/100 use Linux (on the desktop)?

Sorry, but you're just wrong. Those who use OS X aren't switching for performance, in most cases, and Linux users are far more technically skilled than the average computer user.

I can use linux, but I couldn't care less if it's faster. It's not an OS I want to use on the desktop, unless I'm developing for a *nix platform or it's embedded in some device (e.g. Tivo).
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a lot of work, but...
schuppe 18th Mar 2009
who are the "many people" you talk about not caring about Windows?....last I looked MOST people dont care about Linux....not the average user anyway....
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You must care linux geek
Aussie_Troll 16th Mar 2009
As your here reading it,

What people DONT care about is Linux or OSX,

You're here because you're so scared that you'll love your precious 0.85% market share happy
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Why would he fear...
storm14k 16th Mar 2009
...losing market share?
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Fear?
Col Mustard 17th Mar 2009
I don't know whether it's fear or a rabid desire to spread. I installed dual boot xp/Ubuntu on one old machine and had trouble with sound drivers and DVD playback. But asside from that there was nothing that interested me. I could serf the web but I could not install any software that I wanted to use. If more people use the Linux kernel than eventually mainstream programs will be written for it. In my opinion this is what the Linux crowd wants. Unfortunately, when this happens the apps/software won't be free anymore. Incedently on another machine which had been running 98SE i could not install Ubuntu at all (hung during install) and yet XP installed with no problem, located the network and old monster sound card, Viper video etc with no problems. So Windows isn't too bad.
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Linux on Old Hardware == EPIC FAIL
PMC-CON 24th Mar 2009
For all the talk of Windows bloat, and the assertions that Linux has drivers for more hardware than Windows, what you describe:

"Incedently on another machine which had been running 98SE i could not install Ubuntu at all (hung during install) and yet XP installed with no problem, located the network and old monster sound card, Viper video etc with no problems."

is the norm. I wish we could stem this tremendous amount of Linux propaganda, and get back to better computing. The article points out way of the future, let's just get there.
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GNU/Linux on Old Hardware Saves the Planet
pogson 25th Mar 2009
In my lab, most of the PCs are 5 years old running XP. The fastest machine is a ten year old box which etherboots from a GNU/Linux terminal server. It boots to a login screen in half the time of the XP machines. Login is several times faster than the XP machines because the terminal server has most of the files cached and uses shared memory so a single copy of an app in RAM is used for every user on the terminal server. The largest app, OpenOffice, starts in 1.5s accessed through the old box.

Keeping equipment twice as long pays handsomely. Businesses running XP on older machines need not change to Vista/7 on newer machines to get improved performance. They can keep their old hardware as long as it is serviceable and migrate to GNU/Linux thin clients and terminal servers.

Cutting hardware costs 50% or more by keeping it twice as long, not paying licensing fees and getting improved performance are all good reasons for businesses to migrate to GNU/Linux. When the old machines finally die they can be replaced with new thin clients for less than $100. Many have done so. Many are considering it.
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RE: You must care ... not to be accurate
n0neXn0ne Updated - 16th Mar 2009
"...you'll love your precious 0.85% market share."

Linux Power s More then 85% of the World's Top 500 Supercomputers


^o^


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Windows powers more than 90% of the Worlds computers.
ye 16th Mar 2009
Your point?
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My point ...
n0neXn0ne Updated - 16th Mar 2009
"Your point ?"

... looked to have stuck you right in the eye. grin


^o^

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So you had no point. Why am I not surprised? (nt)
ye 16th Mar 2009
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Windows powers more than 90% of the Worlds computers
GAXXIS 17th Mar 2009
and even apple has more desktops then all *nix, all *nix trolls do is hide in the shadows in windows blogs to spew the security trash and to keep repeating the same old S*it over and over again. and yes I have used apple, and *nix and prefer Windows hands down. at least some of the time i have seen apple users be civil in windows blogs more than the *nix users an average

IMHO

Gaxxis
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*nix user civility
tmsbrdrs 17th Mar 2009
That's really strange. I've gone through plenty of blogs for all three Operating Systems, keeping up with the News to the best of my ability. I've read the comments for every blog I've read and have seen more Windows and Apple trolls than *nix.

For the most part, a Linux user will fight back when a Windows troll throws out FUD. I do it, I've seen others do it.

Also for the most part, the ones throwing out the FUD are Windows trolls. Apple trolls tend to throw out FUD about Windows.

Linux users tend to have switched from Windows and decided we like it better. We share our experiences and are called liars. We point out the differences between the systems and are called trolls. We keep up with News on different software and tend to be better educated, knowing the differences between virus infiltrations on the different Operating Systems and understanding why running as full Admin (Root level access for Linux users) is such a bad idea and we understand just how horrible an idea it is to have a built in, completely integrated, Web Browser as part of the OS.

None of us say that Linux is perfect. What we do say is Linux has many advantages that Windows doesn't live up to at this moment. Take into account that Windows 7 is still a beta, it's not available publicly, just through Torrent files as a leaked build.

I'm sure you're going to have a response and I'm pretty sure it won't be civil. Just try and realize, I'm being completely honest and truthful. Try and do the same.
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Civility
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 17th Mar 2009
I think that what a lot of people do on these forums is hide behind the veil of anonymity. When they do, they act like they wouldn't if they were to discuss things face to face. Hence much of the agression etc.

Perhaps the biggest issue I have with people on both sides of arguments here and elsewhere is that people state ther *BELIEFS* as fact. They say "___ is easier to use because my friend and I converted to !_____ and we love it therefore everyone will have the same experience".

This is often not the case.

Sharing your own perspectives is one thing, but you should avoid stating self-observed "facts" - especially those that fly in opposition to the vast majority.
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very true
george.supreeth@... 17th Mar 2009
You're absolutely right. Subjective accounts are not the same. I too find myself enthusiastically bashing windows and your well thought out comment made me stop to think. On introspection I realise it's because I feel a vague kind of superiority (maybe because I'm using free software) and this I will never successfully be able to communicate.

I'm a graphic designer and I loaded Ubuntu a couple of years ago on a lark. I never intended to keep it. It's just that I didnt find a reason to take it off either, because everytime I found I'm missing something from windows I would find an alternative just as fast.

Linux users cannot help but evangelise because they cannot understand why others don't switch. In their enthusiasm they bash. Windows is perfectly usable and other than virus and memory management has been good to me and is an old friend.
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You should be more honest though
jdbukis@... 21st Mar 2009
Quite frankly I think all sides are as guilty as each other when it comes to incivility.
But I have to say you seem to be presenting a dishonest view, I dont belive that you have seen fewer linux user's act trollish.
In almost every MS post on this website a select 3 or 4 users almost always post something inflamitory, websites like the register rely on people believe Anti MS fud(you cant honestly tell me there impartial).
Im sure there are plenty of pro windows or pro apple trolls, and we see them here.
I just dont believe someone who could put that together could actualy have that opinion if they were totaly honest with them selves.
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I didn't say there are less
tmsbrdrs 22nd Mar 2009
I just said that I've seen less. There's a huge difference.

If you'll look through just this comment section, you'll see some very good examples of both Apple and Windows trolls. You'll also see maybe one example of a partial Linux troll (as in, one comment made, maybe two.

I've read one article where the comment section had more Linux trolls than the other kind, just one. The difference is, those trolls were dealt with by Linux users before anyone else even started to comment back.

So, like I said, it's just what I've seen.

By the way, my comments are made in respect to CNet and ZDNet, not the entire Internet. Hell, throw in a few Linux forums like the ones for Ubuntu and it still holds true.
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Civility and Arrogance Are Mutually Exclusive
PMC-CON 24th Mar 2009
"We keep up with News on different software and tend to be better educated,"

I'll call you on that in the above post.

The rest of your comments are just the normal Linux fanboy B/S.

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Windows powers more than...
tmsbrdrs 17th Mar 2009
99% of the worlds computer repair shops. As in, when someone has a software problem, it's usually attributable to Windows or a Windows related vulnerability.

When someone chooses Linux, they made the choice. When someone has Windows, for the vast majority of the time, they're just using what's there when they bought a new PC.

The fact that Linux numbers are going up just goes to show the reason Windows 7 is so much faster than Vista without losing functionality. MS is scared shitless.
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MS Scared? So They Improve Performance? In Response to Linux?
PMC-CON Updated - 24th Mar 2009
This last sentence in the post above is such a mindless comment, it's hard to know where to start.

Umm, maybe Apple and OS/X, they are concerned about. (Apple was advertising so heavily that MS launched a counter-campaign, clumsy as it was.) Linux, not so much.

Improving performance between Vista and Windows 7 is an evolutionary process for any new software as complex as an operatin system, and is to be expected. Tell me that it doesn't happen in Linux, too?

Microsoft's BIGGEST competition for NEW products are the OLDER Microsoft products. If Microsoft doesn't develop a compelling reason for customers to upgrade, no one will buy their product: they will keep the old. They have an old, working product and they will sit on the sidelines unless something pushes them over the edge.

Microsoft customers certainly have no business case to dump everything they have (software applications, serice/support infrastructure, user familiarity and skills) just to save a few OS bucks per PC.
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Because the Supercomputers outnumber desktops
safesax2002 16th Mar 2009
That's some good logic you got going on there, n0neXn0ne.
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RE: ... Supercomputers outnumber desktops
n0neXn0ne Updated - 16th Mar 2009
Q: How many Windows desktops does it take to make a supercomputer botnet?

^o^

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Ooohh...Good try
safesax2002 16th Mar 2009
One could argue that a botnet (depending on its size) could out-perform some of those supercomputers. Yes I know it's not a controlled use but we're strictly talking performance here, not usage.
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RE: Ooohh...Good try ...
n0neXn0ne 16th Mar 2009
...Your logic is bankrupted.

layta

^o^

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Actually considering...
CrashPad 16th Mar 2009
The old gnutenella and now the bittorrent clients where and are very good way to transfer data, and in ways can be considered a botnet!?!?!?!LOL

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