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Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

Summary: Microsoft has updated the Windows Phone 7 update page. Things are starting to move now, but WP7 handset owners on the AT&T network still have to wait.

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

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Microsoft has updated the Windows Phone 7 update page. Things are starting to move now, but WP7 handset owners on the AT&T network still have to wait.

Here's the updated information for the US and international markets:

AT&T however is still dragging its heels. When approached for comment here's what an AT&T spokesperson had to say:

We apologize for the inconvenience caused by the delay of Windows Mobile 7. AT&T will make this update available once it has achieved technical acceptance in our labs. Unfortunately, we do not have a date for when an AT&T-approved update will be available.

What's really depressed me in relation to these Windows Phone 7 updates is the crazy length of time the process has taken, especially considering the fact that these updates have been pretty minor in nature. I'd hate to see how long a major update would take to go though the carrier testing (equally, I'd hate to think how long a critical security update would take to filter through to handsets worldwide).

Topics: Operating Systems, Microsoft, Mobility, Software, AT&T, Windows

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  • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

    And this is better than Android how? Wait until they achieve the 25% market dominance Android has, things will get even worse.
    tatiGmail
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    • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

      @tatiGmail I agree with you ... Android updating is a mess (usually the way normal users uodate is by buying a new handset)
      Adrian Kingsley-Hughes
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      • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

        @Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

        Really? My Droid X has gotten a couple updates and it's been painless. It pops up telling me there is an update, I hit yes and a few minutes later I was updated. No mess no fuss.

        WP7 is a debacle for MS plain and simple and they either need to get their stuff together or go away. I'd prefer the latter.
        itguy08
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    • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

      @tatiGmail It is very different because, like in Android OEMs are not the ones preparing the updates specific to theirs phones and then going through the carrier testing. For WP, Microsoft prepares all the updates and sends them for carrier testing and then pushes it to phones. So, the delay or the lack of interest in OEMs part (which is one of the major delay for Android) doesnt apply. Only carrier testing delay, which is what we are seeing now.

      Android = OEMs take new OS, update it with their patches and UI + carrier testing + carrier pushes updates
      WP = MS prepares updates for all phones + carrier testing + MS pushes out updates.

      Majority of work is with MS and I think they will do a better job at it than OEMs are doing with Android.
      5ri
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    • The carrier acceptance labs are worthless anyways

      @tatiGmail All phones these days ship with bugs in them. I am surprised MS didnt offer to help ATT with their testing.
      otaddy
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      • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

        @otaddy - Apple phones don't have this problem. Update is installed by Apple upon release. Guess that's a plus for the iPhone / iOS.
        The Danger is Microsoft
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      • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

        @otaddy
        How can Microsoft help AT&T with testing?
        illegaloperation
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    • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

      @tatiGmail

      Check this out, a cool combination of Android, Iphone and wp7... youtube.com/watch?v=vnKvQo3ao6o
      t3chenthusiast
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    • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

      @tatiGmail


      Because WP7 is smooth. This update talk is non-sense and a non-factor. The update has been done for months. The problem is learning a new updatet process. If mobile phone carriers operated as efficiently as software companies the update would have been released months ago.

      I just installed NODO on my wifes HTC HD7 from T-Mobile. The process was, efficient and effective. Maybe a T-Mobile AT&T merger wouldn't be so bad after all!
      Rob.sharp
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  • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

    I think I am done with it! It is not just this it is everthing microsoft touches, Well the xbox is nice! I will try to trade my focus off for an iphone and when my contract is up I will go to verizon!
    imsimsj
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    • Early hissy fit?

      @imsimsj Presuming you took the upgrade in November which was 4 months ago you've got at least another 14-20 months to cool off.
      Alansonit
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    • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

      @imsimsj

      The ** for the Testing status says early next month and April 1st is Friday. I can wait another 2 weeks.
      Admin71
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    • You can update following this

      Follow instructions here :
      http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015131

      And you can update!
      kartbart
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      • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

        @kartbart
        Thanks for the heads up kartbart, worked like a charm on my LG Optimus 7Q. My phone now updated and I be One happy dude. After waiting for the phone to update itself it was nice for me to have the choice. Thanks again
        Kiwicasperguy10
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      • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

        @kartbart <br>GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Worked perfectly on HTC HD7 T-Mobile. AT&T please don't screw up my carrier!
        hefalump7@...
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    • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

      @imsimsj - your complaint should be targetted at AT&T. The NoDo code was finished in early Jan 2011. The fact that practically every other carrier world-wide is now shipping NoDo while AT&T is still completing its testing should be a pretty good indicator of where your blame lies.

      However, I'd also cut them a little slack since this is the first update to a brand new phone platform that runs on several handsets from several OEM's customized for and offered by several tens of carriers in several tens of countries around the world.

      MS and the carriers have learned a lot from this deployment which means they'll be far better prepared for the next update.
      bitcrazed
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  • Primary Carrier............REALLY!!!! @ At&t & Microsoft

    What happened to At&t being the primary carrier for WP7, and the only one who promotes WP7 commercials. There is no Sprint, T-Mobile or any upcoming Verizon commercial airing at all, only At&t.... REALLY, and you can't provide your customers the update first, yet both companies At&t and Microsoft still running the commercial showing the Focus. Please everyone, tell me what you think..... REALLY!!!
    NUGAmaan
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    • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

      @NUGAmaan
      What surprises me even more is that if you go into an AT&T store today and buy one of their current WP7 offerings you'd still not have either of these updates (according to store rep.) I'm waiting for Verizon (Godot) to get in the game as they have much better coverage where I live/work/play, but wanted to take a look at some of the latest hardware offerings. Disappointed VZ seems to be dragging their feet.
      Wolf_Lodge
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  • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

    It's really about the fact that carriers feel the need to validate the software updates prior to pushing them out. That is mostly due to so much crapware being installed by the carriers on their phones in the US. Or the carriers not letting the end-user know about firmware updates in a timely manner (samsung issue). The best thing that could happen is that carriers stop adding all the extras and let me decide what I want. Why haven't end-users revolted against pre-installed extras on their phones like they have on their computers?
    brentgee
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    • RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' still a no-show on AT&T

      @brentgee
      They have and that's why all of the OEM's and carrier's installed apps can be removed (in case of WP7).
      illegaloperation
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