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Windows Phone browser goes up against iPhone 4 and Android ... and wins

By | April 13, 2011, 1:27pm PDT

Summary: This is interesting … Joe Belfiore, Director of the Windows Phone program, put Internet Explorer 9 mobile up against the iPhone 4 and Google’s Samsung Nexus S Android device at the MIX11 - and IE9 mobile won.

This is interesting … Joe Belfiore, Director of the Windows Phone program, put Internet Explorer 9 mobile up against the iPhone 4 and Google’s Samsung Nexus S Android device at the MIX11 - and IE9 mobile won.

The test carried out was Microsoft’s own HTML5 speed reading test that forms part of the informal suite over on ietestdrive.com.

The Windows Phone “Mango” handset managed some 20FPS (frames per second), with the Samsung Nexus S managing only 11FPS, while the iPhone 4 trailed far behind on 2FPS.

Couple of points worth noting:

  • This is done purely using a Microsoft test platform.
  • The iPhone 4 is running iOS 4.2 and not the faster iOS 4.3 (in my informal testing using iOS4.3 the browser hobbled on at around 5FPS … a little better but not much)

It’s really great to see Microsoft pushing the turbo boost button on web browsing both on the desktop and mobile platforms. Good work!

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

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RE: Windows Phone browser goes up against iPhone 4 and Android ... and wins
lelandhendrix@... 15th Apr 2011
@Will Farrell
What I see, right under the video, is the line "The test carried out was Microsoft?s own HTML5 speed reading test"
Enough said.

However, just as someone else mentioned, this was performed with a WP7 browser that is NOT in anyone's hands right now, against an out-of-date version of iOS's Safari--certainly not demonstrative of what is in consumers' hands at the moment.
*pinches himself* Am I dreaming ? Wake me up !!!! Good words for MS from AKH !!!!
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I'm sure the ABM's will refute this test
Will Farrell 13th Apr 2011
@1773
tell us all the ways "M$ cheated" happy
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Well, the test *was* selected by Microsoft
honeymonster 13th Apr 2011
@Will Farrell
If some test exists in which iPhone or Nexus comes out faster than WP7, do you believe that they would have shown that on stage?

You cannot take away from MS and WP7 that they were considerably faster in *this* test. Question is, is this a general pattern?
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WF might load from cache
DeRSSS Updated - 13th Apr 2011
@Will Farrell: (yes, despite the figures are supposedly to be drawn dynamically).

But it is not very likely.

It is just MS test site for IE. And iPhone 4 got resolution 960x640, unlike competitors.
@1773 Once in a while he does this smoke screen. Afterward he shows his true Apple colors for weeks and when he someone calls his B.S., he points out to these smoke screens to try to deny his Apple bias.
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@Will Farrell I find it interesting that they used the very latest version of WP7's IE browser - one not available in the wild yet - vs an older iOS Safari browser (the one from iOS 4.2 NOT the currently released to the wild and much faster version with iOS 4.3) as a comparison. A truer comparison would be current version vs current version.
@Will Farrell

This line right here: "?This is done purely using a Microsoft test platform."

I'm sure there is absolutely no bias in using your own test platform; the reliability of these results are pretty much guaranteed.
@Will Farrell

Are we to believe everything out of the Apple camp?
@Will Farrell
What I see, right under the video, is the line "The test carried out was Microsoft?s own HTML5 speed reading test"
Enough said.

However, just as someone else mentioned, this was performed with a WP7 browser that is NOT in anyone's hands right now, against an out-of-date version of iOS's Safari--certainly not demonstrative of what is in consumers' hands at the moment.
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Totally agree
saif365 14th Apr 2011
@1773 Totally agree
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I got 4fps using Firefox 3.6, 60fps using IE9, and Chrome couldn't even load it.
http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Performance/SpeedReading/Default.html
@AdamzP

Safari does the test @ 1267x680 window size, Chrome is @ 1056x674, Firefox 1280x666, Opera doesn't even open it.

Then my iPhone as I posted below 980x10... (cut off) in portrait, 980x42... (cut off) in landscape.

WHY IS THE TEST RUNNING AT DIFFERENT WINDOW SIZES BASED ON IDENTIFICATION OF THE BROWSER?
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@AdamzP
And my Core 2 Duo laptop (2 x 2GHz, T7300) scores 10 FPS with the latest Chrome on 64-bit Ubuntu. happy happy happy

Gimme a break! happy happy happy
@Solid Water

well here is the deal IE9 uses DirectX 9,10,11 which are all lightspeed ahead of the that dinosaur openGL which if you compare the openGL version in ubuntu has the same level of functionality that DirectX 8 had...
@Solid Water

And forgive me if i am wrong but chrome docent support hardware acceleration yet!?
@knix You really don't have a clue, don't you... OpenGL performs every bit as well as DirectX when implemented properly. Portal on Mac using a GeForce 8600 runs better than Portal on Windows using a GeForce 8600, at least in my experience. Also see PS3 vs 360 when it comes to graphics (XBox has a Radeon 2000-series comparable chip where PS3 uses a rebranded GeForce 7000 series chip).
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@AdamzP
Same laptop (Core 2 Duo T7300@2GHz).
Test window 1680x827 (was 1680x912 for Chrome).

FPS for Mozilla 3.6 was... 26 FPS! happy

I reran the test for Chrome - 9 FPS.

People! You are on the wrong browser! Everybody should be back to Firefox 3.6! wink
@Solid Water
What are you talking about, It's time for Firefox 4.
@Solid Water Actually IE9 scored 60 fps according to AdamzP in a prior entry. So you are are running the wrong browser (if you want to go by 1 test). wink
@Solid Water
IE9 pulls 60fps on the video built into the i3 chip running that test.
@AdamzP 60FPS using FF 4.# on my notebook. I would say that it isnt that biased >

Edit: Thats also with FF using .5GB of memory and has 10 open tabs, including youtube. grin
@AdamzP try activating the gpu accelation at the about:flags page and tell weather it works or not? without that flag setup, it's either it will not run or run slowly... with it setup properly (like mine), it should do it ok
Well, it is a MS test, but interesting nonetheless. I've never really considered web browsing one of apple's strong suits in iOS devices.

From the article: "Apple and Google to respond. Internet Explorer 9 mobile will be identical to Microsoft?s desktop browser according to the company"

That would be welcome indeed. I always get annoyed not having a fully functional browser on a mobile device.
Isn't competition great? So nice to see Microsoft step up in this arena.
@Loverock Davidson Too bad consumers look for different things from different companies. With Google who has always been pretty open, compatible, and nice, people don't care about a little evil but want performance, for MS who has always been efficiently callous; performance doesn't matter people just want less evil. Linux which has never been evil or had performance issues, people expect compatibility. More of the same doesn't impress people, they want to see that companies are addressing their weaknesses too.
@AKH, wow, you really surprised me. Like @1773 said, I had to pinch myself. happy
The title of this article should be "Microsoft product beats others on microsoft-created benchmark"

Or "Sky is blue, water wet. Film at 11"

Don't get me wrong...Windows Mobile isn't a crappy product, and I want there to be healthy competition between iOS/Android/WinMo/etc. But this is effectively an advertisement, not a benchmark.
@samalie: Google Chrome does not run test page at all.
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Chrome doesn't run it
Michael Alan Goff 13th Apr 2011
Almost everyone else does, though.
@denisrs
don't get nervous people, your precious iPhone is going Down!
Winphone 7.5 will be a star!
@samalie
exactlly how? I'll say that its all 100% true, because they ran it and filmed it.

If it showed WP7 comming in last, then we would not have seen this film, so since we have, I'll go with it being factual.
@John Zern Just because it is real doesn't mean it was fair.

Don't get me wrong...Apple & Google have done/would do the same thing.

But (once again) someone released a pile of bullcrap as news, was picked up as news, when really it is just advertising.
And this is the technology of the future because flash is such a resource pig? Really, I can get better than 20 fps with flash on my current Android devices.
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It's pretty easy for any manufacturer to create a test that their product fly's through, and everyone else fails. Nothing new here, and nothing to brag about either.

Internal tests with custom internal test suites, are for internal use. They have no merits in the real world.
@timspublic1@... We shall see won't we?
@timspublic1@...
I own a WP7 and I agree with you. I really like this phone I might add.
It's very easy to devise a custom test where your competitors fail. This is the reason why independent tests exist. Plus the code is a mess, and contains MSIE specificities. I'm not good enough in Javascript to know if this may change things in the results, but I'm cautious...
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for some reason my iPhone is at 0 fps, 980x10... (cut off) in portrait, 980x42... (cut off) in landscape.

I sense shenanigans.

I might try it on a Trophy a bit later today.
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Press releases vs. reporting
davepowell 13th Apr 2011
Dear AKH,

If it's not independent, it should be cross-checked with something objective.

Press releases can serve as the core of an article, but unless they're balanced by actual reportage, they're of no value to the reader.

You get credit for the disclaimer at the end, but I would suggest increasing the size of the grain of salt you serve with this kind of dish.

Cheers,

Dave
@davepowell HA HA HA,,, a picture is worth a thousand words, but a video is worth more....
@ldselder A video is worth a thousand pictures (frame). Lol.
My iPod Touch has 4.3.1. It is noticeably slower than before I upgraded. Apps and the OS hiccup and freeze. OS needs to be debugged.
I am excited with the Mango update, so many upcoming features.
The performance of mobile IE9 and the WP7OS are awesome.

To iPhone fanboys, enjoy your slow browser.
(How about you do your own testings?
Like AKH did, iPhone can only reach just 5 instead of 2)

Microsoft Rocks!!!
@iluvmsft No reason not to be excited about the Mango update... however the test was skewed. MS used an older iOS version as a comparison for their yet to be released to the wild OS. A much more accurate comparison would be iOS 4.3.1 vs the current WP7 version in the wild... And if WP7 is still faster, it's all good. If not, it's still all good.
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@athynz Well, except that judging from NoDo, it might be years before WP7 phone users get it. It's already mid-April and the "February update" isn't available to everyone yet. I wouldn't recommend holding one's breath.
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Years? Spreding the FUD a bit?
John Zern 13th Apr 2011
@matthew_maurice
@athynz
A much more accurate comparison would be iOS 4.3.1 vs the current WP7 version in the wild... And if WP7 is still faster, it's all good. If not, it's still all good.

You have to remember this is nothing but an ad for a yet to be released update. Someone posted a link to Microsoft website (where the test is hosted). I would give it more credibility if it was an impartial third party (if that is even possible these days). WHen two different browsers, on desktop hardware, yield similar results; then you know something is afoot.
The only real test that matters is the acid3 test. Everything else is M$ BS
http://acid3.acidtests.org/
@bitbucket@...
you mean the deprecated parts that even Google is running away from that constitute the last 5%. When will the HTML5 spec get published?????

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