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Xbox 720 to be at least 'six times more powerful that the current Xbox'

By | January 26, 2012, 7:25am PST

Summary: … or so the rumors say …

According to rumors circulating, the next-generation Xbox console (currently rumored to be called Xbox 720) will be six times more powerful that the current Xbox 360 console.

Current rumors seem to be all over the place. Fudzilla is reporting that the updated console will feature a modified AMD Radeon 7000 series GPU that’s mated to a PowerPC CPU to form a single System on a Chip (SoC). Charlie Demerjian over on SemiAccurate also believes that the Xbox 720 will be powered by a 7000 series GPU. Demerjian engages in some speculation too:

So, time for a little speculation. Oban is being made by IBM primarily, so that almost definitively puts to bed the idea of an x86 CPU that has been floating. We said we were 99+% sure that the XBox Next/720 is a Power PC CPU plus an ATI GCN/HD7000/Southern Islands GPU, and with this last data point, we are now confident that it is 99.9+%.

However, IGN is reporting that the console will not be using the 7000 series GPU, but instead a modified 6000 series part, specifically the Radeon HD 6670 which offers support for DirectX 11, multiple displays, 3D graphics and 1080p HD output. This chip would make the next-generation console six times more powerful that the current Xbox 360.

For the record, the rumors I’m hearing are all over the place. Right now either rumor could be true, or neither.

However, given that we’re unlikely to see a new console until at least spring 2013, and maybe even not until 2014, it makes sense for Microsoft to use the best GPU possible, especially given the long lead time. The problem with games consoles is that no matter how powerful they are on launch day, they’re getting less and less powerful compared to new PCs (or more specifically, new GPUs and CPUs) by the month. What’s more, now that we expect consoles to have a long lifespan (the Xbox 360 is essentially 6 year old technology, and the PS3 5 year old), making then as cutting-edge as possible at the time of launch makes a lot of sense.

I’m not even certain that the Xbox 720 will feature a System on a Chip design to be honest with you. While there are advantages to this design, it seems to me that Microsoft would have to get its cooling system worked out perfectly if it is to put the both the CPU and GPU together. Microsoft has numerous issues with cooling related to the Xbox 360, so much so that the Xbox 360 S features a number of modifications to reduce the possibility of overheating. A gaming device is going to pump out of a lot of heat, and it seems to me that having to handle the heat from both the CPU and GPU using a single cooler package is asking a lot.

What would you like to see in the next Xbox console?

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

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  • Then why not call it the XBox 2160?
    That would even make it sound futuristic.
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    Bruizer
    26th Jan
  • RE: Xbox 720 to be at least 'six times more powerful that the current Xbox'
    @Bruizer
    XBox 2014 happy.

    2 years after the WiiU... Hmm....
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    neil.postlethwaite@...
    27th Jan
  • RE: Xbox 720 to be at least 'six times more powerful that the current Xbox'
    This will bury any other console, and wit Windows 8 integration, will give gaming PCs a run fir their money. The Hard core PC Gamers will not jump to this, but the more casual gamers can save thousands.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Stephen-B
    26th Jan
  • RE: Xbox 720 to be at least 'six times more powerful that the current Xbox'
    @Stephen-B Most gamers tend to go for both, so next story.
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    Aerowind
    26th Jan
  • RE: Xbox 720 to be at least 'six times more powerful that the current Xbox'
    @Aerowind
    Most gamers will have just one console/computer. SOME gamers might go for both.
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    kris_stapley@...
    26th Jan
  • RE: Xbox 720 to be at least 'six times more powerful that the current Xbox'
    @kris_stapley@...

    I don't kow where you get your stats? Perhaps from yourself?

    Well, myself, I have (2) Xbox360, (2) PS3, and a overclocked i7 16GB DDR3 RAM with (2) EVGA GTX580 FTW Overclocked and watercooled with distinct radiators/pumps for the CPU and GPU...

    Most gamers I know have at least a Gaming PC + one console of some sort. Consoles are cheap, mere disposable blades in a razor...

    Great LAN parties BTW...

    Just my $0.02.

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    WinTard
    26th Jan
  • Hey Rick_Kl, why are you using your iPhone?
    I know on my iPhone, "fir" is the most common auto correct when I'm trying to write "for". You are slipping Rick_Kl, you should be using your god Nokia phone.

    What I find interesting is why people like you and Mike Cox are so threatened by Microsoft that you have to create these reverse troll personas in order to create strawmen that you can then point to and say "see, there are crazy Microsoft lovers out there". Guess you are scared. I don't see why. Apple will be #1 for 20 years to come. Their monopoly position guarantees it.
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    toddybottom_z
    26th Jan
  • Mike Cox is saterical, and welcome here
    @toddybottom_z

    A great imagination and an even better sales Rep!

    Others, like those Ricky and "Stevie" not so much.
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    William Farrel
    26th Jan
  • Some may find reverse trolls welcome
    While my opinion on that is different, it is the reasoning behind the requirement to create these reverse trolls that interests me more. There is clearly a frustration being felt by the Apple community at large that there simply aren't enough people out there who sound ridiculous while talking about Microsoft when compared to the Apple fanbois and the way they talk about Apple. So the Apple community creates these personas so they can then sit back and say "See, see, Microsoft fanbois are just as bad as we are."

    Like I said, some might find Cox's copy and paste hack jobs entertaining, it is personal preference. I'm commenting more on the need of the Apple community to create these strawmen and less on the quality of those strawmen.
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    toddybottom_z
    26th Jan
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  • Well Rick_Kl
    What name are you going to use next? You are awfully slow. I do not own, nor would I ever be caught Dead with an iJunk phone. I also do not have auto correct enabled, but that's one of the bonuses of WP7 Mango. It's called choice, and for the record you should be banned for your anti Microsoft rhetoric. My employer would have fired you simply because you do not know what you're talking about. All it would take is one comment from our Microsoft Rep, and you would be gone. Simply having an iJunk phone is grounds for termination.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Stephen-B
    26th Jan
  • Some may find reverse trolls welcome
    While my opinion on that is different, it is the reasoning behind the requirement to create these reverse trolls that interests me more. There is clearly a frustration being felt by the MS community at large that there simply aren't enough people out there who sound ridiculous while talking about Apple when compared to the MS fanbois and the way they talk about MS. Their frustration is enhanced when they realize even their investment decisions are clearly ridiculous so they are not only annoyed but also poor. So the MS community creates these personas so they can then sit back and say "See, see, Apple fanbois are just as bad as we are."

    Some might find toddybottom's copy and paste hack jobs entertaining, it is personal preference. I'm commenting more on the need of the MS community to create these strawmen and less on the quality of those strawmen.
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    anono
    26th Jan
  • RE: Xbox 720 to be at least 'six times more powerful that the current Xbox'
    @NonZealot

    Perhaps you can explain why you're so threatened by Apple.
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    msalzberg
    26th Jan
  • RE: Xbox 720 to be at least 'six times more powerful that the current Xbox'
    @Stephen-B
    I own an X Box 360, Playstation 2, Playstation 3, Nintendo Wii, Nintendo DS lite, Nintendo 3DS and I plan to buy the Nintendo Wii U and the Vita when they are released later this year. And that is just the systems that I have out, it doesn't even count the ones I have in storage......

    The average of a gamer is 35, and they tend to have a lot of disposable income and therefore buy every system. There are very few 'one system only' purists out there, so please take your trolling elsewhere.
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    Doctor Demento
    26th Jan
  • RE: Xbox 720 to be at least 'six times more powerful that the current Xbox'
    @Doctor Demento

    There are a lot of one system only people, just look at XBOX360 sales in Japan vs the PS3 sales. I have all the three most recent in my house, I wouldn't have the Wii but the wife bought it and it sits collecting dust.
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    hopp64
    26th Jan
  • RE: Xbox 720 to be at least 'six times more powerful that the current Xbox'
    @Doctor Demento
    Most 35 years olds have a family and other priorities. Single 35 year olds maybe.. but then again... why are you single at 35?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    kris_stapley@...
    26th Jan

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