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Blumenthal starts to fight the FUD

By | July 12, 2010, 9:21am PDT

Summary: Even among those most worried there is a belief that EHRs will be of great help in overstressed emergency rooms, in other words that they will prevent more mistakes than they cause, and most are moving ahead.

With the meaningful use guidelines just about ready for release, National Coordinator for Health IT David Blumenthal is now directly addressing the Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) surrounding the automation of American health records.

The campaign is being conducted in specialty media like Stanford Medicine, with Blumenthal (right, at this year’s HIMSS show) confidently telling doctors patients are “going to get better care” with alerts on things like medicinal side effects delivered at the point of care.

But the FUD over Electronic Health Record (EHR) is going to general audiences, and Blumenthal needs to be heard there.

Typical is a new Case Western study claiming doctors could be held liable for software errors.

The actual paper, published in the Berkeley Technology Law Journal, however, isn’t quite as alarming as the headline:

Historically, medical innovations, such as anesthetics and x-rays, have generated increased tort litigation as patients quickly came to expect better care while physicians struggled to perfect their use of challenging technologies. The same phenomenon may well occur with EHR systems.

In other words, a lot of this is inevitable. The alternative to the “risks” described by Sharona Hoffman and Andy Podgurski is to stop progress.

That’s not the way laymen will read it, however.

Another great piece of FUD is coming from PriceWaterhouseCoopers, with a survey showing only half of the Chief Information Officers at American hospitals think they can meet the 2011 guidelines in fiscal 2011, which starts in October.

Some of the problems cited in the survey, like the shortage of trained staff, are in fact being addressed through education programs funded by the same HITECH law bringing hospitals that sweet, sweet stimulus cash.

Other concerns aren’t so easily addressed, especially vendor confusion and ongoing consolidation in the space. The report shows CIOs asking the right questions, and becoming discouraged when they don’t get instant answers.

Even among those most worried, however, there is a belief that EHRs will be of great help in overstressed emergency rooms, in other words that they will prevent more mistakes than they cause, and most are moving ahead. (One hint — those who are furthest ahead are including patients in their planning.)

It’s true. Electronic records mean more people taking on more liability. But no one in any position of authority, in either the public or private sector, is calling those concerns a show stopper.

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RE: Blumenthal starts to fight the FUD
DanaBlankenhorn 16th Jul 2010
@barbie.not The test of a health care system is its results. Our health care system gets the 37th best results in the world. The best results are in France. France spends about 10% of GDP on health care. We spend 17%.
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I remember...
itpro_z 12th Jul 2010
...when a trip to the doctor meant him listening to you describe your symptoms, followed by an examination, and finally a diagnosis and treatment based on education, wisdom, and experience.

Now, we will have a doctor blindly following whatever the computer tells him to do. Haven't we already tried that with tech support? (You say your mouse doesn't work? OK, let's reformat your hard drive!) On a basic level, I can see some advantages to a computer based system, helping a doctor catch possible drug interactions, for example. Since the government will be involved with this, I instead see a time in the not very distant future where doctors spend their day in front of a computer and most health care is dispatched from kiosks. Press 1 if you are feeling depressed, 2 if you feel pain, 3 if...well, you get the idea.

Is it too early to start missing the good old days?
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More Ignorant FUD
Craigmeister68 12th Jul 2010
@itpro_z
That is a really lazy response to the article and just promotes the FUD rather than being an intelligent response. Most providers have been dealing with technology most or all of their careers and have figured out what works for their own style, way of doing things. They understand their liability all too well and would not blindly follow anything. That is just not based on any kind of understanding of how medicine is practiced in this country. The technology referenced in this article is related to electronic health records and aiding prescribing treatment, not dictating it. Plus, Doctors expertise is what they bank on. Trading that in for a kiosk would make them expendable and they are not going to take that kind of huge cut in salary.
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@Craigmeister68
Yes, I do know what electronic medical records entails, as I have computerized a number of clinics over the years, and installed some of the first patient record keeping systems. I even understand the desire for a central data base, although in the current climate I see no reason to support it.

The system being planned is more than a central data base. Add in the push for "standards" to be used for patient diagnosis, electronic diagnosis to help the poor overworked physicians, and a chronic shortage of doctors which will only grow worse with Obamacare, and you have the beginnings of the system that I alluded to.

Doctors in the past were small business people, responsible to their customers (patients) first. Doctors under the new system will be responsible to the government bureaucracy first. Add to this a computerized system developed by bureaucrats and you have the makings of a disaster.
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Lester Young 12th Jul 2010
@itpro_z There are already "standards" set by bureaucracy - the insurance bureaucracy. Maybe the insurance bureaucracy standards of Repiglicare make you oink with delight, but Repiglicare puts the patients last. Take your Repiglican ideology and stick it where the sun don't shine.
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barbie.not 15th Jul 2010
@itpro_z One would hope that his Dr. is better than that. However if he makes an error it should be caught at the pharmacy. I fail to see the need for this program. Bet on it though, there is money to be made on it, so wheels will be greased. Like it or not, good or bad, I see a big SOLD sign on this one.
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@itpro_z I think you're being too pessimistic. Furthermore, the medical practitioners I know (doctors, nurses, physician's assistants, etc.) would never practice medicine as you describe.

What this new era of medical practice is likely to help is to broaden the range of that wisdom, experience, and education you mention. With the amount of medical research that's being done today, it is impossible for any one person to keep up with it all. If the combined efforts of multiple practitioners can be brought to the table, the potential exists to take advantage of the skills of the whole community rather than just rely on the skills of one or two individuals.

I don't miss the "good old days." They were never that "good," when you get beyond anecdotal accounts and selective memory. Progress in medicine is a real thing, and something that does not come without disruption. Disrupt away - we could use some improvement in this field, as in others.
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Those good old days...
itpro_z 12th Jul 2010
@dbarr@...
...that I was referring to are now, when we can still see the doctor of our choosing at a time of our choosing.

You can keep your rosy system, where it takes a village to diagnose a condition and months to wait for treatment. I'll take just one good doctor who knows me and my history over your collective system any day.
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As long as we are mixing it up...
Craigmeister68 13th Jul 2010
@itpro_z
It appears I don't really disagree with you. The pessimistic view seems over-dramatic because I can't imagine the changes that are in Obamacare ever seeing the light of day, but they could. The fight might be just beginning with new details of the bill coming out and states fighting back with the commerce clause. The reality of life in the US is changing and LOTS of people are waking up and taking a stand to stop to the transformation. We can hope that come November, there is a lot of new blood in Congress with the b..will to turn back to common sense in the face of what will be intense pressure from the media and others.
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DanaBlankenhorn 13th Jul 2010
@itpro_z Why are best practices OK in computing and in law and in every other area but somehow medicine doesn't need the support of expert systems, let alone best practices?

That's one of the things we're trying to automate, the stuff doctors have had stuffed in their brains by continuing education programs.

It's not and never will be "the computer telling you what to do," it will be the software making you more productive and accurate just as it is in every other field of endeavor.

Fact is, medicine is 20 years behind the times, and it needs to catch up if we're to get the most from it.
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barbie.not 15th Jul 2010
@dbarr@... Hate to break it to ya sparky but have you timed an office visit lately? Medical practitioners are already one foot in the kiosk with the other on a banana peel. As to bringing the wole community in you must not have ever been billed for a consult. All Dr.s have access to the "whole community" already. Not all so called progress is a benifit. What shade of rose is it you have on your glasses?
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Obvioulsy you are afraid of something that doesn't exist.
The way it is running in Canada - your records are computerized. If you really think a doctor is going to let himself be second guessed by acomputer, then you are gullible. I've seen none of your proposed scenarios in my 40+ years in socialized medicine. Doctors still have nice offices, they still have busy waiting rooms, they still do minor surgeries on site, nothing has changed excepring the paperwork is easier. If you believe your own BS then the above column is for you.
Funy how all the correspondence schools push medical transcriber as a growing occupation. Somebody has to upbdate the records whether manually or digitally. Computerized records means you can be out of town, drop in to another doctor, he can read your history, listen to your complaints and make a decent diagnosis.
The only people it could possibly hurt are the ones trying for multiple prescriptions of the same narcotic.
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If that system in Canada...
itpro_z 12th Jul 2010
@inkwell
... is so wonderful, why are not patients from all over the world flocking to your doctors for treatment like they are here? Our system has its flaws, but we can get treated for any condition without delay or government approval. What you have is similar to our VA medical system, and I don't hear anyone defending it as a model for the rest of the world. When my brother in law was diagnosed with cancer, it took months to arrange treatment and he was not given the options for any of the newer treatments available in the private sector. I hear of similar scenarios in both Canada and Great Britian.

Our problem was one of cost, not quality of treatment. Funny that Obamacare did nothing to address the fundamental reasons for the high cost yet begins the process of destroying the best treatment system in the world. Elections have consequences, and we will be paying the price for the last one for generations.
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You are an ignorant boob.
Lester Young 12th Jul 2010
@itpro_z There is no measure which indicates the pre-reform health care system in the US was one of the best in the world. A number of metrics show the US health care system to be the most costly and underperforming in the industrialized world. If the American treatment system is so great, why do Americans go to Thailand for medical treatment? Your BS about Canada is just that - BS. No Canadian I know would trade their system for ours. I know two Canadian doctors. They roll their eyes at the nonsense that the Repiglicare insurance bureaucracy imposes on American health care. But don't let little things like facts get in the way of your ideology. Just tune in to talk radio to pick up your Repiglican astroturf arguments.

Damn, encountering a creature like itpro_z puts the whole Mac/PC thing in perspective!
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barbie.not 15th Jul 2010
@inkwell
Those in the U.S. that can not afford to choose who or where they go already have your so called computerised records. They just call it a "paperless" system. It hurts every one that has to seek care under it. Your file is no longer in the Dr.s hand. It might as well be in LaLa Land, rather like it would be when the system is down...
The only reason you see no problem with socialized medicine is that is all you know! Oh sure it's ok if you have the sniffles.
Maybe you are just used to seeing people have to wait years for needed surgery or to see a pulmanary Dr. so they can get a Rx for Oxigen. Any GOOD Dr. should be able to make a "decent diagnosis" as you call it with the history you give him. So who beleives thier own BS now?
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RE: Blumenthal starts to fight the FUD
DanaBlankenhorn 16th Jul 2010
@barbie.not The test of a health care system is its results. Our health care system gets the 37th best results in the world. The best results are in France. France spends about 10% of GDP on health care. We spend 17%.
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DanSarco@... 12th Jul 2010
President Lech Wa??sa described a transition from capitalism to communism as "heating up an aquarium with fish" to get fish soup. He said that reversing communism to capitalism was challenging, but "We can already see some little fish swimming in our aquarium." [28] This bill is like that. I don't think it wise to turn on the heat, Using a law nobody know ANYTHING about. But I guess we dun it now!

Dan Sarco
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RE: Blumenthal starts to fight the FUD
DanaBlankenhorn 13th Jul 2010
@DanSarco@... I do get tired of this nonsense about communism described by people who don't know what they're talking about. It's a straw man argument.

Our economic rivals are beating us badly, because they spend less of their GDP on health care and get better results. This means businesses in other countries have a huge and growing cost advantage against their American competitors.

That gap needs to be closed.
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DanaBlankenhorn 16th Jul 2010
@DanSarco@... We currently spend 17% of our GDP on health care and our results are similar to those of Cuba. Calling it "creeping communism" just says you don't have a substantive argument, so you have to make an ideological one.

I hate ideologies. Hate communism, and hate capitalism when it's turned into one. It's not meant to be one.
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Learn from the UK experience - don't
tony@... 12th Jul 2010
So far, it is massively over budget and doesn't work. There are legal disputes with contractors, and data protection leaks from government departments bigger than holes in buckets.
Paper has a lot to recommend it still.
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jedikitty@... 12th Jul 2010
@tony@... True. I have a lot of friends in GB and they tend to say the same thing. They are of various financial backgrounds so it's not the lack of options; if you can pay for them from own pocket, you will get the proper treatment in all three countries mentioned so far. It's the exact issues you mentioned. Paper is paper, unless you have a housefire... I know we can't keep up with paper filing systems anymore but the electronic ones are indeed full of holes.
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barbie.not 15th Jul 2010
@jedikitty & @Tony
Amen!! For every safegard ther is a hacker itching to break it. We already have the ability to keep our med. records in our wallets on film. That is about as portable as they need to be. Why do we keep trying for supposedly bigger & better ways of doing things when we can not fix the little snags in the way we do things now?
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Over budget and doesn't work?
Lester Young 12th Jul 2010
@tony@... Good description of the American health insurance breaucracy!
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The Cloud in Medicine.
pfyearwood 12th Jul 2010
I was in my dr's office today for the first time in six months. The first thing I noticed was the missing paper files in the main office behind the receptionist. They also asked for e-mail so we can be notified of test results.
The Doctor and his nurse have carried a laptop for the past 1+ years. I see where a slate computer would be easier for the MD office.
Like most modern doctors, mine is part of an umbrella system centered around a local hospital system. I have my Primary Care in one town, my cardiologist in another, and my heart surgeon in a third. Now I know that they will have the same information will not have to do a history each time. That will be helpful in an emergency, unless it is of a Katrina scale or there is an EMP that kills all computers. After all, if you have prescriptions at CVS, Walgreens, WalMart or KMart, you have those records on nationwide files. Every health insurance company that ever covered you has records. So, it is not like those filed do not already exist. If you think you have privacy in this modern world, just google your own name.

The internet, the perfect invention for conspiracy theorists.

Paul

Have you checked for keyloggers today?
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Another Obama appointment circumventing established procedures to promote socialism. This isn't about health care, it's about expanding government control of our lives.
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DanaBlankenhorn 13th Jul 2010
@Get-Smart Dr. Blumenthal's appointment was approved by the U.S. Senate last year. You're thinking of Donald Berwick, who got a recess appointment. Like John Bolton and 170 other Bush-era appointees did. (This President has, so far, done fewer than 20.)
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What I think is interesting about this is the complete reversal of roles: Those that are claiming "FUD" about any negative statement regarding socialized medicine are the first (and most vocal) to resort to ad hominem attacks and the last to use facts.

Any system is going to have drawbacks. Pretending that socialized medicine is perfect (and, yes you are by being dismissive of every argument you disagree with or just outright name calling of anyone who disagrees or has a different point of view) just makes all the pro-socialized medicine arguments suspect.
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barbie.not 15th Jul 2010
If only you knew how it is already for those that cannot afford medical care in this country. Fed. subsidised medical care has already gone "paperless". Such a simple thing, right?
WRONG! your Dr. no longer has your file any where near him. He gets one paper with your name, age, weight, b/p & temp. ( some times the reason you came in to see him )
You can not see the same Dr., most of your visit is spent filling in the gaps in your info the Dr. has no access to.
Is it any wonder then that there is Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt
when another new idea comes along that "will revolutionise"
our health care? Let's face it, those who have no choice about who & where they get treated will again be the lab rats this is tested on. Like so many ideas that have failed before (& yet been touted as Fantastic) expect this to be put into place!
Face it, we have a "good ol boy" system run by glad handers just waiting to make money off of it. Good or Bad I see a big sold sign on this deal.

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