Cutting imaging proves a win-win-win

By | August 27, 2009, 5:27am PDT

Summary: The cure for this disease turns out to be economic, changing market incentives that now favor extra tests.

One of the most intense aspects of the current health reform debate involves conservatives charging that reform will “get between you and your doctor” and “cut needed tests.”

A New England Journal of Medicine article this week says an attitude of thrift regarding scans may not only save money, but save patients from radiation-related illness.

As lead author Reza Fazel told The Baltimore Sun, “There’s a cost with these tests, and it’s not just dollars but radiation risk.”

The problem is there is an economic incentive to do more scans. More scans mean more money. When doctors have bought a scanner, that is money going directly to the doctor.

Tests designed to check for heart problems are increasing fastest, the NEJM study said, and 2% of cancers in a recent study were the result of CT scan exposure. So difficult-to-diagnose heart problems could be resulting in patients getting cancer.

An NEJM perspective by Michael Lauer with the National Heart Lung and Blood Institute argues that the heart tests, called nuclear stress tests, may actually have more risks than benefits.

The cure for this disease, ironically, turns out to be economic, changing market incentives that now favor extra tests.

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New Data Show Increased Cancer Risk in Middle Age Than Previously Thought
cardhun@... 19th Dec
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Ionizing Radiation Is Very Dangerous
Cardhu Updated - 27th Aug 2009
and must be employed very, very carefully.

If it's not absolutely necessary, don't.

Anyone familiar with nuclear physics, engineering, or medicine knows that it only takes one ionizing radiation event to damage one single cell's DNA such that the cell becomes malignantly cancerous to start a life-threatening illness.

Any patient recommended for an x-ray or CT scan - especially with contrast - should ask "Is this test really necessary? Or can you draw logical conclusions using methods that don't expose me to ionizing radiation?"
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We're glad that we spared you the dangerous exposure to ionizing radiation and the serious side effects that it can cause. Our condolences to your family and those that survive you after your untimely death due to the tumor that we missed.

Sincerely,
Your Doctor
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There are other ways...
DanaBlankenhorn 27th Aug 2009
besides excessive tests that cause risk to the
patient of getting the answers a good doctor
seeks.

Many cost less, too. That was the point of the
NEJM article.
because "that's what we've always done."

There are, as Dana points out, other ways.

For example, non-irradiative mammography using lasers instead:

http://www.rt-image.com/CT_Laser_Mammography_Functional_optical_imaging_of_breast_cancer/content=8304J05C485EB4944076987644A0B0441

Your response would be a less pat resort to fear, uncertainty, and doubt if you were one facing chemotheraphy for cancer caused by an x-ray or cat scan test.
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RE: Cutting imaging proves a win-win-win
reconcileriam 27th Aug 2009
Your article was good but it makes a case for Tort reform not health care because doctors are afraid of being sued because they might have missed something which is the economic factor. They run all kinds of extra tests to prevent malpractice suits being brought against them. We don't need government run health care. I lived in England for four years. Their health care is terrible and that is where we are headed if we let a government bean counter do cost analysis based on your productivity to society with children 0-14 years and adults 55-? years getting the short end of the stick.
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Tort reform does not work
DanaBlankenhorn 27th Aug 2009
When Texas initiated tort reform -- which limits
a patient's ability to sue and limits the amount
of damages they can collect from malpractice --
it had absolutely no impact on malpractice
premiums. They still went up.

This doesn't mean a solid, conservative, uniform
malpractice regime can't be created. But the
current reform bill is already 1,000 pages long.
How many you want to add?

Oh, I forgot, you think that keeping those
injured from suing will magically reduce medical
costs.

This is what I call a "pony proposal." It's
simple, it sounds attractive, but it does no
good in practice.
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I Suggest, Dana, that
Cardhu 27th Aug 2009
the reason why malparactice premiums went up should be identified.

If the reason for rising premiums for no need is that malpractice insurers operate nationally rather than at the state level (very likely), then the solution is clear:

1) Institute tort reform nationally;

2) Regulate malpractice insurers.

Also, it's already been discussed what HR 3200 does and does not address in heath care cost drivers. HR 3200 is a start we can build on, but it isn't complete by any means.
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I agree
DanaBlankenhorn 27th Aug 2009
If we're to make a single national market --
which is part of the conservative solution
proposed by Republicans -- then we can also have
a single national standard for malpractice and
malpractice insurance.

So there are two Republican "goals" in "health
reform" met. I don't think we'll get any give on
their side on any issue. But perhaps we can get
a more complete solution.
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for just 5 or 6 billion dollars a year the problem goes away.
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You Don't Understand The Problem
Cardhu Updated - 29th Aug 2009
The problem with malpractice insurance is that the premiums are directly linked to malpractice awards. The consequence of this reality is that as we see more and more large multi-million dollar malpractice awards, the higher premiums result. As it is, malpractice insurance is costing many physicians $100,000 a year and is rising alarmingly.

These large awards are driven by two things:

1) Tort law lawyers pocket large portions of any award;

2) Physicians and hospitals are viewed as "deep pockets," meaning that people think they won't miss a few tens of millions of dollars here or there.

So malpractice law has become a gravy train whose exploitation is not just considered legal, it's viewed as morally justified. In reality, the public is only robbing itself and enriching many lawyers in the process.

The only effective solution is tort law reform: Compensate only real damages, cap malpractice awards, and cap lawyer fees for malpractice cases.

This dynamic has already played out in auto insurance with fault-based insurance. The stakes for determining fault in accidents became so high that years became wasted in court wrangling trying to duck and dodge assignment of fault. The result was so wasteful and expensive that we have gone to no-fault auto insurance across the country.
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An Excellent Point
Cardhu 27th Aug 2009
It is definitely established that physicians order unnecessary tests to limit their liability:

http://www.bidmc.org/YourHealth/HealthResearchJournals.aspx?ChunkID=93884
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That may well be one motivator
DanaBlankenhorn 27th Aug 2009
But another is the inherent conflict of interest
found when doctors own imaging gear.

How do we eliminate that? One way is to eliminate
self-referrals, and to police referrals in such a
way that we can detect quid pro quos -- doctors
referring to facilities owned by one another.
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is why I think that patients need to be informed advocates of their own health.

When I am referred to an x-ray or CT scan, I ask myself:

What does this test offer for diagnostic information?

Are there non-radiological methods for gaining the same diagnostic data?

What is the risk of not having the diagnostic data?

Is that diagnostic information really important enough to justify the radiological exposure?

If these questions lead to wondering, "Why are we doing this test," I squawk.

In our area, no doctors have their own imaging equipment. Few even have their own labs because the insurance companies only fund labs drawn at their preferred service providers - Quest and Labcorps - with whom the insurance companies already have contracts. Those physicians who do have limited lab facilities are hematologists/oncologists for whom immediate lab results are vital. The insurance companies very reluctantly tolerate these other lab facilities.

The result here is that nearly all of our patient testing has to be done at specialized imaging and lab sites. This a huge waste of time driving around and sitting in waiting rooms. Quest and Labcorps are especially infamous for providing results "manana" or losing them completely, wasting even more time.

So there are advantages to having the option of "self-referrals." We wish we had more such options ourselves.
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RE: Cutting imaging proves a win-win-win
reconcileriam 27th Aug 2009
I am glad you have that link to the Baltimore Sun article in your story so I could read it for myself. I guess I should not be surprised that you would mis-represent what was written so you could promote health care as you are connected with Democracy For America a leftist organization and especially after going to your web site. I would make 2 suggestions, 1st-get all your facts straight and 2nd don't put your political views in your articles. After all, this is supposed to be a business report. By the way, I served 20 years in the US Air Force and I believe in freedom and freedom of speech but I don't trust politicians DEMS or REPS as they are only interested in being in power and getting re-elected. Too many broken promises to all of us from both parties.
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So Fox News is fair and balanced to you?
DanaBlankenhorn 27th Aug 2009
Oh, Pravda is Russian for truth. If you think no
one should be seen as a fair reporter unless
they agree with you politically, you're just
asking to be lied to. As we have been for many
years now.

Also, please spare the sanctimony and the call
to patriotism. Patriotism means freedom for all,
and carries with it an obligation to listen. If
you're not willing to be free yourself, and
listen to reporters whose political views you
disagree with, you fought for nothing.
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If You Have A Point To Offer, Please Do
Cardhu Updated - 29th Aug 2009
The people visiting Dana's topics who are focused on decrying one ideology or the other are stuck in their own perceptions and biases. They offer nothing but useless clutter.

So if you have a genuine point to offer, please do. Provide your references, analyses, and conclusions. Most of the people here welcome honest, meaningful dialogue and will respond in kind.
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I'm not sure of your 2% figure
Ken_z 29th Aug 2009
While the referenced article indicated that it was an
"estimate that a much as 2%" sounds significant - it's
really a guess.

Several factors keep coming into my mind.

The first is that more people are probably getting x-rays
because of Medicaid and Medicare.

Digital x-rays, getting rid of film, allows for lower
dosages of radiation to get a proper image. Talked to my
dentist about it several years ago and he indicated that it
was a major decrease. A dental x-ray exposes a patient
to as much radiation as they will get from the sun walking
from his front office door to their car.

And then there is a need to look at the use of radiation in
treatments. I've had it and the Radiation Oncologist was
pleased to tell me that they learned they could use a
higher dose when going after prostate cancer.

And there is also the general increase in cancers today,
and the fact that some are showing up at an earlier age.

A lot of variables. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't
ask your doctor about the value (value, not need or cost)
and work it from there. Missing a problem early on can
be just as deadly.
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The Source Of The 2% Figure
Cardhu 30th Aug 2009
I found it after a couple minutes of web searching for "2% of cancers in the U.S. are caused by radiation exposure."

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/22/2277

Computed Tomography ? An Increasing Source of Radiation Exposure. David J. Brenner, Ph.D., D.Sc., and Eric J. Hall, D.Phil., D.Sc. The New England Journal of Medicine, Volume 357:2277-2284, November 29, 2007, Number 22.

See Figures 3(c & d) and the associated discussion.

It's not a guess at all, but rather an estimate based on CT dosages and known rates of human radiation poisoning.

As far as sources for unnecessary testing, it is definitely established that physicians order unnecessary tests to limit their liability:

http://www.bidmc.org/YourHealth/HealthResearchJournals.aspx?ChunkID=93884
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Actually 2% is probably a very conservative estimate. The US
uses consistently higher doses for diagnostic CT and scans
are unnecessarily repeated on re-admission to hospital.

The problem is that the imaging market is geared towards
the needs of the US.
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The Data Say You're Correct
Cardhu 7th Sep 2009
The actual source study data show that the 2% figure is the bottom of the risk curve for ages 40 and beyond.

For ages younger than 40, the risk rises sharply and is downright frightening for children.

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