Social CRM: Ground zero for Enterprise 2.0 in 2010

By | February 3, 2010, 9:14am PST

Summary: There’s been some debate recently on whether Social CRM is part of the broader Enterprise 2.0 story. I try to answer the question and explore some of the latest thinking on social business and how it can help transform the customer relationship for real competitive advantage.

Successfully maintaining meaningful and sustained relationships with customers has become a critical skill in the 21st century. What if customers were often the best people to help other customers? That’s the basic premise of an emerging class of enterprise software usually referred to these days as “Social CRM” and which I covered in some detail late last year.

The general concept is that managing customer relationships in the classical way, meaning transactionally and one-on-one can be greatly improved by making the relationship less structured, more participatory, and created around an open community model. Social CRM can manifest itself in many ways, including self-organizing affinity groups within customer communities or by co-managing customer support requests in a shared, open venue, to describe just two popular approaches of many.

These new approaches do appear to transform the relationship that companies have their their partners and customers and are getting on the radar of customer support, product development, and marketing departments this year. But what’s at the core of this approach that separates it from traditional CRM?

My good friend and ZDNet blogger Michael Krigsman came away with the following perspective in his recent interview with CRM guru Paul Greenberg:

Successful customer relationships are based on interacting, cooperating, and collaborating with customers to provide mutual value. Technology is an important enabler but is secondary to relationship.

There’s been some debate recently on whether Social CRM is part of the broader Enterprise 2.0 story and I think from the statement above it’s clear that it is, and it’s even more so when you look at close up in the wild. It’s worth visiting GetSatisfaction for good real world examples from major, well-known firms.

Social CRM: Enterprise 2.0 with Customers

Enterprise 2.0 itself is popular term that captures the use of lightly structured social environments to collaborate and capture knowledge in a discoverable, reusable way. Typically, these tools are highly social (but don’t necessarily have to be) and they’re freeform, so that they can adapt to the problem at hand. Finally, Enterprise 2.0 is generally applied in a business setting between at least one to three types of participants: workers, trading partners, and customers. Social CRM fits the bill for all of these criteria, and of course, spans the full range of all three participants.

Enterprise 2.0, Social CRM, and Crowdsourcing:
The types of conversation and architectures of participation

A typical Social CRM scenario is when customers want to communicate their problems (customer support) or desires (future product development requirements) to an organization and they’re then given a social channel to do so. This channel could be as simple as a forum so that they can delve into their issue into more detail with the company and other customers. Or it might be something more deliberately structured to help customers support each other or to capture innovation. This structure might involve assigning case numbers or submission IDs and add them to an open, searchable database that can then be updated by anyone.

Whatever the method that is chosen (and it should be as open and freeform as possible), the key to effective Social CRM is that everyone in the conversation can contribute at any time in a transparent and authentic manner. It’s probably an understatement to say that this isn’t easy for companies used to having full control of the conversation, yet it’s critical in order for Social CRM to work. Well known social business expert Jeremiah Owyang agrees, noting today that potent social influence is in the hands of most customers now, putting companies that don’t have a Social CRM strategy into an increasingly difficult situation.

But anyone paying any attention can see the benefits of Social CRM: Closer contact with reality when it comes to what customers need or want, lower costs to engage with customer and resolve their problems or otherwise give them what they need, and ultimately just better results when it comes to having satisfied customers, many of whom actually become very closely connected with the company for everyone’s mutual benefit.

Social CRM Just Window Dressing?

So I’d debate whether it’s of any real significance to put Social CRM in its own category or just declare it a subset of Enterprise 2.0. One can make the argument however, that it’s just an extension of traditional CRM with some social window dressing. In my mind, it’s this latter issue to me that makes the question of categorization potentially important. A look at the popular CRM products of today largely turns up a set of tools that are often nothing more than glorified contact lists. The “R” in CRM is frequently e-mail management (albeit sophisticated) but not for actually managing the interactions of customers in a meaningful way. It’s often more about pushing a message than it is real engagement.

Comparing CRM with Social CRM

That’s not to say there isn’t real value in CRM tools. There is. But successfully building and maintaining meaningful and sustained relationships with customers has become a critical skill in a 21st century digital business landscape that makes it very, very easy to switch to the competition. Traditional methods for staying in touch with customers don’t hold a candle to true social engagement. Yet Social CRM is just a blip on the radar for most businesses as we enter 2010. But that’s about to change: All the indicators that I’m tracking says that this will be one of the bigger aspects of what is increasingly being called “social business“.

Social CRM stands to be one of the most interesting Enterprise 2.0 stories of the year, underscoring the importance of situated solutions to complement the more horizontally focused social computing initiatives we’ve seen in recent years. Consequently, I do believe that when it comes to companies actually engaging deeply and collaborating with customers to drive useful business outcomes, Social CRM will often do better than general purpose enterprise social software has so far in terms of achieving meaningful adoption at a strategic level.

As I can this year, I’ll highlight the stories of successful Social CRM that are emerging. Please send me yours if you have one and I’ll share them as I can.

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Dion Hinchcliffe is an expert in information technology, business strategy, and next-generation enterprises. He is currently Executive Vice President of Strategy at Dachis Group. A veteran of enterprise IT, Dion has been working for two decades with leading-edge methods to bridge the widening gap between business and technology. He has extensive practical experience with enterprise technologies and he consults, advises, and writes prolifically on social business, IT, and enterprise architecture. Dion still works in the trenches with clients in the Fortune 1000, government, and Internet startup community. He is also a sought-after keynote speaker and is co-author of several books on 2.0 subjects including Web 2.0 Architectures from O'Reilly as well as the upcoming Social Business By Design (due Spring, 2012.)

Talkback Most Recent of 26 Talkback(s)

  • Social CRM - Extension of CRM?
    Dion, once again, you do a brilliant job of elaborating and yet simplifying often mystifying concepts so that people can clearly see them. The one thing I'd say is that what distinguishes Social CRM from CRM is that while it accounts for the operational, it also provides the means for customers to collaborate and converse w/the company. Where it differs from E20 is that it reaches across the firewall to customers where E20 generally doesn't. They are, however, highly compatible disciples/systems/strategies and live together.

    Keep up being brilliant, man. I love your stuff.

    Paul Greenberg
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    pgreenbe
    3rd Feb 2010
  • I agree. Here is my Social CRM definition looking at it more broadly
    Hi Paul,

    I agree, I love Dion's posts, commentary and analysis in this space and I try and get others to read his material.

    A while ago I pulled together a PowerPoint deck outlining what Social CRM is and how it fits within / across an organisation.

    It can be accessed here on SlideShare - http://bit.ly/PrBbC

    I welcome any feedback on keeping the document up to date!
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    Martin_Australia
    3rd Feb 2010
  • ZDNet Blogger

    Agreed, Social CRM is when E2.0 goes beyond the firewall
    Hi Paul,

    I was hoping I made that point more clearly in my post but you're spot on for stating it even more succinctly than I did. I think your point about it also being operational is key as well. Good Social CRM will have many of the fundamentals of CRM and E2.0 both in my opinion.

    Keep up the great work yourself, and see you around the blogosphere or at a conference very soon hopefully.

    Best,

    Dion Hinchcliffe
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    dionhinchcliffe
    4th Feb 2010
  • RE: Social CRM: Ground zero for Enterprise 2.0 in 2010
    @dionhinchcliffe I was hoping I made that point more clearly in my post but you're spot on for stating it even more succinctly than I did. I think your point about it also being operational is key as well. Good Social CRM will have many of the fundamentals of CRM and E2.0 both in my opinion.

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    ekoaldiva
    14th Jun
  • RE: Social CRM: Ground zero for Enterprise 2.0 in 2010
    @dionhinchcliffe

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    filhomarques
    15th Jul
  • RE: Social CRM: Ground zero for Enterprise 2.0 in 2010
    @pgreenbe

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    RahinBen
    2nd Jun
  • RE: Social CRM: Ground zero for Enterprise 2.0 in 2010
    Very interesting post, Dion.

    I can't agree more with this statement:

    Traditional methods for staying in touch with customers don?t hold a candle to true social engagement.

    As you have pointed out in this post and others, a few things need to happen before the true power of Social CRM can be unleashed. For one, organizations need to understand that it's a two way street and, to that end, they cannot control the entire message. Also, from a technology standpoint, I would think that many "Enterprise 1.0" apps may not be sufficient for storing, accessing, and analyzing much of the unstructured data generated by the very tools that you describe. Whether that means new apps, new architectures such as SaaS, data marts or warehouses, or some combination of each is probably a company-specific decision.
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    philsimonsystems
    3rd Feb 2010
  • RE: Social CRM: Ground zero for Enterprise 2.0 in 2010
    @philsimonsystems

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    Good keynote though.
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    RahinBen
    30th May
  • RE: Social CRM: Ground zero for Enterprise 2.0 in 2010
    I am totally enjoyed reading out the article about ground zero here. Thank you guys for sharing your views. tegaderm
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    alanfl
    13th Sep
  • RE: Social CRM: Ground zero for Enterprise 2.0 in 2010
    Dion,

    Excellent post, distilling some thoughts and concepts which have been brewing for quite sometime. Whether Social CRM belongs under the E20 umbrella, if you will, is not as important as solving business problems.

    You address that later point quite well, in the transformation diagram. I would extend some of 'jobs to be done' part of Social CRM a little, as there are distinctions to be made. For example, I think that Social CRM needs to keep the process centricity, in order to make sure that the conversations taking place actually leads to action, or else they lose value.

    Contact management is also one that absolutely needs to enter the Social age, but I would hope beyond simply community management. For the Support side of CRM, Community is the answer. For other parts, Social Network management is important as well, answering the question "how do I know this person".

    Thanks for a great post!

    Cheers,

    Mitch
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    mjayliebs
    3rd Feb 2010
  • RE: Social CRM: Ground zero for Enterprise 2.0 in 2010
    Dion,

    You make one great point: SCRM is no more than a part
    of a good E2.0 strategy (in what I call the proper
    definition of E2.0 as set by McAfee -- not the
    commonly implemented technology-only model of Wikis
    and Internal Collaboration). I have to applaud that,
    as not too many of the E2.0 proponents stop to think
    about it sufficiently. Yes, the talk about Customer-
    Centricity (a tenet of E2.0 really), but they don't go
    far enough implementing it -- they just die at the IT-
    level discussion and implementation of the tools
    without truly engaging the customer. It is in that
    model that SCRM engages the customer and brings it
    into the E2.0 deployment.

    I think you get that and I agree there... Alas (or
    However, or But if you prefer -- and you probably knew
    this was coming) your description of SCRM falls short
    of the potential of it. You are simply calling a
    community a SCRM implementation (a definition that is
    favored and pushed on by some of the vendors) -- which
    basically stalls it at the same level as those E2.0
    implementations I mentioned before. There is much you
    are missing in that perspective.

    SCRM is about communities, but that is only one of the
    layers for it. It is about identifying customers as
    part of multiple communities, and about engaging them
    via those communities to provide ideas, feedback,
    complaints, and support each other. But stopping
    there is doing the same disservice as saying that E2.0
    is about implementing Sharepoint.

    The real value that SCRM provides is the aggregation
    of that "feedback" (all the contributions from the
    customers via their communities of choice -- and I
    have a broader definition for community that simply a
    forum) and processing it via analytical tools (the
    most underutilized component of a CRM implementation -
    whether SCRM or CRM), creating Actionable Insights,
    and feeding those insights to the organizations
    systems and processes involved in making the
    organization customer Centric (I would usually call it
    E2.0 at this point, but that would not fit with your
    definition of it above) as food for improving the
    processes and products that are then given back to the
    customer in the form of better experiences -- on which
    we then capture feedback again.

    This continuum is what I call the Experience Continuum
    and the true essence of the value of the properly
    defined E2.0 (or, in the poorly defined E2.0 as back-
    office and SCRM as front-office, I call it
    convergence).

    This is a critical differentiation because it is where
    all this implementations and strategies show the value
    -- in the ability to actually implement a customer-
    centric organization using the tools and methodologies
    we are commonly referring to as SCRM or E2.0. This
    model is what a social business is all about (as much
    as I don't like the term, describes well the
    organization that engages socially both internally and
    externally with the purpose of serving customers
    better and fulfilling the purpose of the organization
    better).

    So, getting off my soapbox -- Bravo for using E2.0
    properly, and for including SCRM as the customer-
    facing portion of that -- but please make sure to take
    SCRM all the way back into the organization, and the
    organization all the way out to the customer to
    describe the value they both provide to the social
    business.

    Just two cents more to add to the pot... and we are
    still way short from making that first dollar.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Esteban.Kolsky
    4th Feb 2010
  • ZDNet Blogger

    Great points, I hope everybody reads this
    Esteban,

    Thanks kindly kind for stopping by and adding these excellent thoughts.

    Your point about "bringing customers into the E2.0 deployment" is a smart one and it's one of the points I was making about how Social CRM will actually drive a good amount of enterprise engagement with social computing this year.

    And while my post bandied about a lot of popular buzzphrases (E2.0, Social CRM, and social business), each one is an important landmark on the social landscape that can help us sort out where all the pieces fit in our businesses. Thanks for seeing this for what it was in terms of refining the thinking in this space. Note that I'm not heavily invested in these phrases myself except to the extent they create useful and recognizable shorthand.

    Best,

    Dion Hinchcliffe
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    dionhinchcliffe
    4th Feb 2010
  • RE: Social CRM: Ground zero for Enterprise 2.0 in 2010
    @dionhinchcliffe Note that I'm not heavily invested in these phrases myself except to the extent they create useful and recognizable shorthand. orjin krem
    altin cilek And while my post bandied about a lot of popular buzzphrases (E2.0, Social CRM, and social business), each one is an important landmark on the social landscape that can help us sort out where all the pieces fit in our businesses. tutune sonThanks for seeing this for what it was in terms of refining the thinking in this space. Note that I'm not heavily invested in these phrases myself except to the extent they create useful and recognizable shorthand.
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    osoz
    15th Apr
  • i agree
    @dionhinchcliffe
    Employees at my company suffer from application fatigue. When one's daily work is spread across eight or nine separate software systems, additional functionality gets lost behind use complexity. As we shop for an E2.0 platform we demand it replace the functionality of at least two and preferably three, current applications. The advantage of "all-encompassing social capability" is that it allows us to health operate within the finite capacity for users to span their jobs across multiple platforms.
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    KayseriEmlak
    8th Jul
  • RE: Social CRM: Ground zero for Enterprise 2.0 in 2010
    It seems to me that the "firewall" is more illusionary these
    days when it comes to social media and E2.0. You simply
    cannot control for people possibly leaking sensitive business
    information or making vendors angry with something. I think
    you are spot on and I hope that Social CRM takes fire and
    proliferates. I would love to see this technology become
    adopted by most of the Fortune 500, at the very least.
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    jwilfong
    5th Feb 2010

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