Enterprise 2.0 promise is years off...if it materializes

Summary: At the risk of bringing the wrath of the Enterprise 2.0 fans crashing around this blog I'm taking a deliberately contrarian view of Dion Hinchcliffe's recent Determining the ROI of Enterprise 2.

At the risk of bringing the wrath of the Enterprise 2.0 fans crashing around this blog I'm taking a deliberately contrarian view of Dion Hinchcliffe's recent Determining the ROI of Enterprise 2.0. My intention is not to upend Dion's argument but to expand upon the issues. First up, Dion does a spirited job of waving the E2.0 flag. Lots of cool looking graphics (One of Dion's strengths, not one of mine) draw you into believing that the Nirvana of E2.0 is within grasp. The reality, as Dion and everyone else connected to this trend knows, is very different.

The first problem with Dion's analysis is that it extrapolates a handful of case studies into a mega trend. This is unsafe, even though Dion readily acknowledges that:

Susan Scrupski has also been exploring the ROI of Enterprise 2.0 and in her call for case studies recently highlighted that while we have a good number of them, there is still not enough ROI coverage in a wide set of industries.

What is a good number? That's anyone's guess but I keep hearing more or less the same stories with little what I would call breakthrough value discovery.

The second and most serious problem with the analysis is its reliance on 'jam tomorrow' as an inducement to feed the trend. It is all very well saying that something is emergent but that cuts little ice in the C-suite where the current focus is on cost reduction - usually of the order of 20%. Dion attempts to rationalize the problem by discussing three issues, summarized as follows:

  1. Wariness that we're looking at 'pot of gold' technology
  2. Cultural concerns
  3. Difficulty in finding ROI measures

The first two arguments are ones I frequently run up against. The first arises out of the almost incessant hand waving I see coming from marketers, convinced that E2.0 is the Next Big Thing but who fail to provide any tangible proof beyond cuddly kumbaya stories. Marketers would do far better to concentrate on a sliver of functionality that has meaning to the C-suite rather than grand statements, laced with competitive FUD.

The second is a very real problem that at times seems intractable. We've been talking collaboration for more years than I care to remember but as Oliver Marks knows only too well, getting a department on board let alone an enterprise can be a mind numbing, thankless task. I spend most of my life in the 'knowledge' industries but even there it can be like pulling hen's teeth. The problem comes down to the individual perception of IP value and how that might be threatened. In short, what we're really facing is a power struggle.

Remember the way call centers got adopted like crazy in the mid-90's? That was a power play by sales executives used to justify CRM investments. It made call center directors a power center that allowed for increased investments accompanied by more power concentration. But look where we've ended up. I can count on the fingers of less than two hands the number of companies' call centers with which I'd be happy to do business. Was it a good way to improve customer service? Is the proliferation of marketing based Twitter accounts any better? Will the power centers crumble as a result?

The third argument Dion advances is the one where broad technology offerings flounder. It's often asked: where's the ROI in email? Unlike others, I believe that IS measurable. You can't quite say the same for blogs except in retrospect. I recall having this argument in 2005. At the time, my target of choice was Hugh MacLeod aka gapingvoid. Then, as now, there was a real problem in figuring out ROI. It was something I debated endlessly but with little result. Hugh argued it was a sideshow, I saw it differently.

I've come to the conclusion that even though there may be no apparently obvious ROI, it can emerge. That's what happened with Hugh so that he now has a thriving business in limited edition prints of his best cartoons. Check this:

Though this cartoon, "Create or Die" is less than a week old, it seemed to really resonate with people, and by the time the end of last week rolled around, the number of people emailing me about this image almost equaled those who voted for Wolf v. Sheep. So, being the kind of person that hates to disappoint, I decided to damn the torpedoes and go ahead and publish it, as it seems to make lots of people happy.

How long that success lasts is an open question but the fact is it has taken Hugh some three years to get to this point and required several re-inventions. Sounds like an ERP implementation to me and I can say for certain that CIO's have almost zero appetite for this kind of investment.

Hugh is an edge case who can change his business model almost on a daily basis. His example is one in 10,000 where he was in the right place, at the right time with the right offering. No amount of blogging will help a business that is not in that position or a guarantee they can leverage the blog investment in the same way. Sadly to say, many businesses are in a no-man's land where demand is difficult to generate without instituting fundamental internal change. To me, that is the central problem inhibiting companies from understanding how to develop ROI measures. Unlike Hugh, very few businesses can turn on a dime so instigating the kinds of change that E2.0 imply becomes a daunting issue.

Hutch Carpenter makes the point that we're probably in some sort of Trough of Disillusionment, noting that:

One thing I find odd is that collaboration is touted as a benefit of social software. Collaboration is an activity. There is no ROI in collaboration itself. What enhanced collaboration produces is the benefit.

And that’s where it’s been tough in the enterprise 2.0 world. A lot of vendors offer tools with wide open use cases. They can be used for any purpose inside an organization, with an eye toward better collaboration. It makes sense, and yet it is challenging  to identify specific ROI-grounded use cases.

It's an interesting observation but one where the solutions should be self evident. In any project you've got to establish success milestones, something that seems absent from many of the case studies I've read. For instance, I'd be far happier to see cases where there is an identified pain point and then build out from there rather than dangling cascading network effects further down the line.

My overall sense is that the E2.0 problem is not about cost or ROI but about disruption. Time and again it has been shown that blogs/wikis need not require significant business investment. However, the barriers to adoption are a different matter.

Even where there is a management willing to engage, it is difficult to find examples where the organization has successfully moved beyond Nielsen's 1/9/90 law of participation inequality. Managements I speak with detest the use of 'social' in these discussions. To them it smacks of a form of socialism that connotes union control. It doesn't help that some of the most prolific commenters make no secret of their desire to see managements disrupted without offering a palatable solution. Unfortunately, we seem to be stuck with 'social' as a descriptor for anything in this area. Of course that could be indicative of new forms of business we have yet to see. But for the other 99% it will be years before the value Dion espouses becomes obvious.

Then there is the problem of IT stamping on anything of which it doesn't approve. Only last week I heard about a viral implementation of an enterprise class service that got snuffed out because IT thought it might represent a security risk. The fact it was the fastest growing adopted solution the company had ever seen was considered secondary. Is this a case of the politics of power in play? Probably. Once again, it demonstrates the need for careful explanation to appropriate stakeholders rather than the cavalier adoption curve so many think is the right way to proceed.

What we need therefore is a fresh way to explain how these models can iteratively change business without unleashing mayhem upon the business. We need dedicated programs where change is introduced by example and persuasive argument that ties into business processes people understand. Finally, we need to provide individuals with concrete examples about how the value of their work will be enhanced, not eroded, encouraging the idea of creativity as a stepping stone towards innovation.

Does that sound flabby? Perhaps. But if you can convince management that people will be happier in their work, that alone should be enough to start the ROI story. There are plenty of examples to show that happy employees are more productive, creative, inventive and valuable than those who work under sufferance. E2.0 tools hold that promise. Having said that and as noted above, there are plenty of examples that show how invention gets snuffed out if it poses a power threat.

As always, the secret to long term success depends on management's ability to maintain a sustained commitment and all that goes with it. The difficulty today is that same management is wondering where the next sale comes from or how cash will be generated. Those priorities will not be solved by E2.0 anytime soon.

Topics: Collaboration, Banking

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  • Looking at the chart

    Hey, aren't those types of value accruded the same as what they said about SOA? I mean what they said about Net 2.0? Oh I meant to say Web 2.0? I mean cloud computing? Now it's enterprise 2.0? Gee, no wonder there might be some resistance to this hype.
    T-Rexx
    • Except that Enterprise 2.0 is happening bottom-up as well

      The difference between SOA and Web 2.0 (and they have as many similarities as differences, see here: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Hinchcliffe/?p=107 ) is that Web 2.0 -- and this very much includes Enterprise 2.0 -- is also an bottom-up phenomenon that can (and will) happen without management support. SOA, on the other hand, is much harder to develop on the edge without IT involvement. This is a crucial difference.

      I usually cite a long list of companies that have discovered rogue wikis that have flourished in their companies, sometimes pushing traditional ECM tools to the edge of the organization (AOL is a prime example and so is Constellation Energy, and there are many others.)

      Dennis may be missing the point that these things are happening despite management and my point is that is the hold up. Like Euan Semple said, the easiest way to do E2.0 is to do nothing at all. Workers are NOT waiting.

      But it's small ROI for now that management may even stamp out before they realize what it's worth. The real value is when the top-down meets the bottom-up, IMO.
      dionhinchcliffe
      • Enterprise Disaggregration

        Web 2.0 technologies are disaggregational - they are an example of the overall loss of top-down control that many enterprises are now facing as the tools that traditionally have been the province of the IT managers are now increasingly available (and typically more readily mastered) further down the pyramid.

        This is one of the reasons I'm not convinced that Enterprise 2.0 is even necessarily a viable meme - insofar as social networking tools reduce the impedance levels associated with managerial action (or inaction) they are in fact highly corrosive to any organization that works upon top-down principles for information flow.

        Thus, when web 2.0 meets the enterprise, the effects are usually that the enterprise becomes diffuse, distributed, network-oriented, and collectivist in nature. In corporations that are highly hierarchical in nature, this will be extraordinarily disruptive. Thus, it is perhaps understandable that enterprise level IT managers view web 2 technologies with distrust.
        kurt_cagle
        • Collectivism collides with hierarchy

          [b]kurt_cagle writes[/b][i]Thus, when web 2.0 meets the enterprise, the effects are usually that the enterprise becomes diffuse, distributed, network-oriented, and collectivist in nature. In corporations that are highly hierarchical in nature, this will be extraordinarily disruptive. Thus, it is perhaps understandable that enterprise level IT managers view web 2 technologies with distrust.[/i]

          Thank you for this statement. I find it one of the most apt statements that I have read in a while.

          Perhaps it may change how org charts are shaped so that it's not how many people you control, but the value-add of your collaboration/contribution in the new environment that determines the pecking order. I wonder, though, if it will further segregate the drones from the idea makers and leaders. There is another adoption problem: The old-school leaders that actually have good ideas and leadership qualities and experience in leadership but not desire to be tech-savvy. In certain levels, practical experience should trump a person who simply knows how to blog. However, the leader who can sift the wheat from the chaff in blog posts can be an even greater asset. A side effect of the web/intranet is that the "ideas" that the leader presents from sifting now have attributions and timestamps.
          crythias
      • Point taken,

        You have caught me on one of my more cynical days. As a Sharepoint user I often see potential, but putting theory into practice is not always practical (from limitations of the software and also from limitations of the corporate culture as well). I sometimes wonder are we finding more solutions than we have problems to solve.
        T-Rexx
      • Dion puts his finger on the central issue ...

        <i>"But it's small ROI for now that management may even stamp out
        before they realize what it's worth. The real value is when the top-
        down meets the bottom-up, IMO."</i>


        The above quote from Dion highlights is the core issue ... at this point
        in the evolution of enterprise social computing.

        I suspect we are somewhere in the early stages of a path towards ...

        <i>A dynamic two -way flow of power and authority, based on
        knowledge, trust, credibility and a focus on results, enabled by
        interconnected people and technology"</i>

        Jon Husband
        wirearchy
  • RE: Enterprise 2.0 promise is years off...if it materializes

    Dennis,

    The best solution is one that gets used.

    Far too many Enterprise 2.0 evangelists seem to be in love with ideas and principles, rather than focusing on the main point, which is to get things done more efficiently and effectively.

    When I'm working with a customer at PBwiki, I tell them to avoid talking about business revolutions or the benefits of the social business. Instead, I tell them to identify their most important business processes and break them down into individual steps so that we can figure out whether or not PBwiki can actually help.

    Then once we come up with a theory, it's time to introduce that theory to the people actually doing the work, to see if they agree or disagree.

    It's a lot more work than just throwing open the floodgates, but it's a lot more likely to produce a long-term change.

    Take the time to get E2.0 into the bones of the organization; initiatives that are skin deep just don't stick.
    chris.yeh@...
    • Times have changed

      Chris your point about finding real world applications of this technology resonate with what I am seeing in the marketplace, especially for vendors of E2.0 software.

      Customers are looking to tie E2.0 purchases to more concrete benefits. Relying on trends and curves that show everyone is moving up and to the right isn't moving the market. We are at, or close to, the trough of disillusionment.

      What I am seeing is that customers do want to hear from vendors around references where others in the same vertical market are deploying technologies to achieve business benefit. They also want these services mapped to their businesses. 'You need AJAX powered, social networked wiki / blog / discussion' is no longer likely to open the purse strings with customers as it did just 6 months ago. Whereas going into a financial services company and demonstrating that facilitating online collaboration between brokers and their customers can lead to improved customer retention and satisfaction is likely to open the door.

      This isn't to deny that there can be disruptive value in companies buying in strategically to E2.0 investments - just that more and more customers get the value at a high level, but are rightly skeptical and cautious about just where and how they deploy. Maybe this is a simpler value proposition within organizations for highly generic team project capabilities - but to selectively deploy E2.0 capabilities into the fabric of to-be business processes now requires valid use cases and more measurable value.
      Josh.Lannin
  • E2.0 is b s

    Companies only care about the next quarters profit. They will lay off/fire/lose valuable technology people and care nothing about succeeding long term. It's why American companies all imploded recently.
    FireThorn
  • Enterprise 2.0 amazing stuff.

    Could fix the economy as we know it with IT based applets.
    Zurk_Orkin
  • RE: Enterprise 2.0 promise is years off...if it materializes

    Dennis,
    The irony is as we all know that when you talk to
    those companies who have had success with E2.0 (via
    careful combination of cultural support by management
    with a reasonable use of tools - even poor tools),
    they sing the praises of the transformation that they
    would never have been able to experience in the "1.0"
    world. They enjoy knowledge sharing, cost savings, a
    greater sense of trust and loyalty, better managed
    projects, few defects, fast execution etc. They have
    the data and stories to prove it (at least to
    themselves).

    So the majority, who are not drinking the kool aid,
    (yet?) are either skeptical or fearful. Could they
    enjoy the same benefits? at what cost? is the timing
    right? Who will loose power in the process (middle
    management, IT)? My research tells me that fear is a
    huge factor. But just as important - many E2.0
    vendors are not addressing the issues at the right
    level (yet). They are still talking about features,
    not enabling business processes.

    You are right on target. For E2.0 to grow in this
    environment it must address business priorities --
    that being the success of the business, not the
    success of the E2.0 initiative.

    What this means: We have to take the conversation to
    a higher level in the management chain if we will ever
    realize the promise in a more widespread manner. I
    see this as our immediate challenge.
    gilyehuda
  • RE: Enterprise 2.0 promise is years off...if it materializes

    I think it's inevitable, cost effective, and has only the forces of the Old IT Oligarchy to evade. Look at Best Buy - how can you say no to transforming the power of your company into 130,000 person hive of innovation, retain your employees (from 130% turnover to 50%) and other cost savings. Enterprise 2.0 will win because it makes huge dent in the current cost of $28,000 a year per employee (see IDC stat in KM World) at price points of like $100 a seat. The problem is not the new social software - the problem is the old enterprise search, etc. etc. which doesn't work. Compare how easy you find stuff on Google versus finding the person who knows (and posts) the stuff you want. Precision wins. And E2 is cost-saving. You just have to jettison some of the old junk. or take a hard look at what it's buying.

    And, in a related point, how many companies think SharePoint is 2.0? And deploy the technology but never the adoption part? This is just wasted money.

    The problem is the laissez-faire old style hierarchical IT and content management - that has to go.
    pam strayer
  • RE: Enterprise 2.0 promise is years off...if it materializes

    The promise of Enterprise 2.0 is not achievable. The main reason the technology used to achive the aims is still ultimately rooted in the 80s. The biggest problem is ability to manage complexity (SaaS etc does not solve that problem. It merely transfers it to the Web). In my view only Enterprise 3.0 (:-)) will address the issue. What I mean by Enterprise 3.0 is new generation of systems that are based in semantics/knowledge. In other words one has to operate on a higher level of abstraction to deliver the necessary ROI that everybody is looking for.

    Pawel Lubczonok
    ThoughtExpress
    Pawel Lubczonok
  • RE: Enterprise 2.0 promise is years off...if it materializes

    The issues you raise are understood (maybe not by
    everyone who should be informed), and people have been
    circling them for several years ... witness the discussion
    turning more and more frequently to ROI.

    A question: Why would you use the example of a lone
    blogger building up a limited-edition crafts business to
    demonstrate the possibilities (or not) of using
    collaboration-based social computing for an enterprise of
    say 500 or 5,000 employees ? The issues faced are
    significantly different, I think.

    And, I don't necessarily disagree with your argument /
    conclusion. The shift(s) in mental models required after
    50+ years of pursuing industrial efficiency goals is
    massive, and we've only had the new possibilities and
    environment for maybe 5 years.

    Jon Husband
    wirearchy
  • The E2.0 ROI is in the Alternate Reality

    In many years of consulting and using E2.0 and Collaboration tools, I think the best way to look at general ROI is by looking at an alternate reality and all the mistakes, misunderstandings, miscummunications, repetitions etc. that will NOT happen. ROI is also in the creativity, innovation and efficiency that are part of good collaboraion.

    I'm not sure if anyone did a controlled study of 2 similar groups, one that continued to work as it did and the other adopted E2.0 over a period of time. Then the efficiency and innovation of the teams can be compared.

    For the executive team, it requires vision and imagination.
    ofishler
  • Fine line between free and not

    The hardest thing about Enterprise 2.0 is that I bet I can find one that's free. How do you make money when your customers are always looking to find one for free. Advertising dollars are good but they are spread so thin these days, unless your google... oh right they will just own all the Enterprise 2.0 business and they will all be free. So start that Ent. 2.0 company burn cash like crazy and pray for a google purchase (or MS or Yahoo) sounds good to me.


    Cole
    <a href="http://www.buildingengines.com/index.php/About-Us/management.html#cp">Coleman Parker at Work</a>
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    cole.parker
  • RE: Enterprise 2.0 promise is years off...if it materializes

    Hi Dennis,

    I cover customer service social media at Forrester and from the indepth study of 20 companies we've found that customer service implementations directly drive fundamental, bottom line performance in the average organization today.

    Not only does social media transform customer service and customer experience, but it is a business transformation tool that transforms the whole company.

    Here's a link to my ROI Model of Customer Service Social Media, the preso and would love to share with you what we are seeing! Happy to send you the research doc!
    http://bit.ly/oGvz4

    @drnatalie / npetouhoff@forrester.com
    npetouhoff@...